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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:21:54 PM | Does Canada have child support guidelines?
They vary from province to province but it is based on a 'grid' according to salary and anything beyond a certain income level and it's a set amount for that income (Ontario). For instance, a person making 60k p/a must pay $500 p/m for the first child and then there is another formula for additional children. This is the 'base', and the custodial parent can also sue for additional support, i.e., I've seen many sue for Hebrew School, Private School, Camp, Nanny costs, etc. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:26:15 PM |
Tell him to get a paternity test before he pulls the trigger. Ummm...
They vary from province to province but it is based on a 'grid' according to salary and anything beyond a certain income level and it's a set amount for that income (Ontario). For instance, a person making 60k p/a must pay $500 p/m for the first child and then there is another formula for additional children. This is the 'base', and the custodial parent can also sue for additional support, i.e., I've seen many sue for Hebrew School, Private School, Camp, Nanny costs, etc.
Very similar to the US, then.
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:30:06 PM |
They vary from province to province but it is based on a 'grid' according to salary and anything beyond a certain income level and it's a set amount for that income (Ontario).
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This should read:
They vary from province to province but it is based on a 'grid' according to salary and anything beyond a certain income level and it's a percentage of the annual income, plus assets, and other residual income indicators such as stock options, interest on monies, etc. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 7:51:18 PM | | I'm one of the older POFers here, having followed this thread and posted previously I continue glancing back from time to time and shaking my head with incredulity. Have situations such as this become the norm' nowadays and even more troubling has it become generally acceptable to advise someone on various ways to slip out of their societal and moral responsibilities (presuming he IS the sperm donor)? | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:24:52 PM | I'm one of the older POFers here, having followed this thread and posted previously I continue glancing back from time to time and shaking my head with incredulity. Have situations such as this become the norm' nowadays and even more troubling has it become generally acceptable to advise someone on various ways to slip out of their societal and moral responsibilities (presuming he IS the sperm donor)? I had that same epiphany as well...... almost physically nauseating, wouldn't you say so passin? I had my first at 16, my second i was gonig through a messy and stressful divorce, and my third I was already a young mother of two, one of them was an infant, and here i am about to be a single mother of THREE at 22!!!!!!!!!! Guess what, I ain't dead yet, I know what it's like to have a baby in less than desireable circumstances but hey, a baby is a blessing and who on earth is really this selfish! I knew the world was cruel and horrible but this thread really opened my eyes! Someone going to kill himself over financial ruin? bc of a baby? angry that this girl is "threatening" child support? lordy lordy.... the world must be coming to the end, i dont think ppl are this mind bogglingly selfish and self absorbed, I think demons have possessed them to write this. lol. God i'm naive. I sincerely never knew people were THIS ....I dont know, this way. Poor baby!   | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 8:57:53 PM | ^^^^^ I'm with you, Anadarial!
It is a shame that people who don't want to take responsibility for their actions yet are so quick to point the finger at someone else; so they always assume the role of victim.
It's called Personal Responsibility, people. We make the choices; we live with the consequences...just like obeying or disobeying the law; WE know the rules; we just make them so we can figure out how to "bend" them.
I believe in taking responsibility for my body- and to assume anyone else is responsible for what happens is an absolute crock of $#it! Whatever happened to communication? Why does everything have to be so intense? Get over yourselves, Baby Mama & Baby Daddy-
it was your decision to go with your "sexual wants" at the moment that will now be overridden by that little baby's NEEDS. Guess who gets priority one; not either parent!
I hope all works out for the best; for that child's sake. I gotta get out this one... this is just a little too close for home, turtledoves...
world peace- harmony- can anyone smell the incense yet? <<<< I've lost it, kids...
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:12:31 PM | | Abstinence is the ONLY safe sex. (Well maybe also solo sex and toys). Anyway, sex comes with risks. It's just how it goes. The best thing for him is to try to be civil. He knew what he was doing and knew the risks involved. Maybe he should be thankful that it's a baby and not AIDS or something like that. I'm sure alot of unfortunate people would have much rather gotten pregnant. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 9:12:56 PM | | Abstinence is the ONLY safe sex. (Well maybe also solo sex and toys). Anyway, sex comes with risks. It's just how it goes. The best thing for him is to try to be civil. He knew what he was doing and knew the risks involved. Maybe he should be thankful that it's a baby and not AIDS or something like that. I'm sure alot of unfortunate people would have much rather gotten pregnant. but basically, what's done is done and can't be reversed. | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 10:33:04 PM | | well all i have to say is you play you pay, unforyntily most guys want to dance with out paying the piper, when you have sex its the risk you take, its not fair to the child they didnt ask, and have him ask one question? what if it was his daughter? | |
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Posted: 9/8/2005 11:50:42 PM | | Ever heard the phrase "it takes two to tango"? Well it takes two to make a baby. Reguardless if you do IVF, still had to have a man involved. | |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 2:07:14 PM |
well all i have to say is you play you pay,
I have three children and I'm young, but fortunately I had backup, adn good men to be fathers to boot. (good FATHERS, i must clarify, not a good SO though lol)
My gpa always said to me after i found out I was pregnant each time ...
"It's the screwin you get for the screwin you got!"
ROFL
i just don't get how ppl can view it as getting screwed (not literally)
Children are a gift and some peopel aren't able to have that gift and it's so sad to see people who are ABLE to procreate act this way towards the chance of the gift of life, motherhood, fatherhood, teacher, mentor, and all out hero to our kids.
People should truly view it differently, it'd save a lot of heartache. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 2:15:39 PM | | Well, I had my baby. I had a beautiful baby girl and named her Elizabeth Gail. She joined us on December 8th at 4:37 PM. She was 7lbs. 12 1/2oz. and 19 1/2". If you'd like to see pics of her, she's at www.mindygriffith.com/elizabeth.htm | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:49:34 PM | | Be a man. This unborn child did not ask for this. Stop being so selfish, you may be having a hard time getting by, but what about this 20 yr. old mother to be. She may not believe in abortion or what have you. Get your DNA test done and if you are the father do what is right for this child. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 8:55:34 PM | | Don't play, unless to pay. A 20 yr old? You are sure it broke? Wasn't tampered with? What does he do? DNA first, then pay if it's his. There are things as the pill and the patch, not just condoms. Do a DNA test. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 9:04:05 PM |
38 yr old man has a couple of intimate encounters with a 20 yr old.
She should get an abortion, it was an intimate encounter, you're not in love, take the pill.
now, if you were together, that's a different story, but if it was just a slam bam thank you mam......pill, abortion, or adoption | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 9:12:40 PM | | tough choice, but you played, lost, and now if its yours, time to be a man. Sorry dude. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 9:15:23 PM | | Ask MotherBear. She is the wisest of us all. As for suicidal, call 911. Evening hinting is a threat. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 9:25:40 PM | i am deeply sadden that a woman would try and make excuses for a man who created a child and is trying to wiggle out of the responsibility of it. there are preteens who know that condoms are NOT 100% effective. there is no excuse.
sex resulting in pregnancy is not a "mistake." sex is specifically for procreation. its not like "oops! i slipped and fell and my d*ck slid in her and went off."
i am frustrated and saddened by the fact that squirrly seemed to be defending and in fact enabling the irresponsible actions of her friend. again.. cum is for making babies. not cakes. what did the guy expect to pop back out of the girl after his little deposit?
Their relationship was purely sexual and she knew it.....she even wrote him letters describing sex acts that she had done. She isn't little miss innocent. - squirrly
young girls (20 is young and still immature) sometimes consider sex to mean love. perhaps to her they were in a loving relationship and she was fullfiling her man's needs and desires? remember there are 3sides to every story. his side, her side, and the truth.
this is a thought that has popped into my head.. squirrly stated:
She has had some mental issues and been hospitalized for cutting herself.
if this guy was using this girl for purely sexual intentions and he KNEW that she had mental issues, could he be considered as having abused her? the girl could obviously not know right from wrong and could have been misled by a guy who is just out for sex. the guy does seem to be very controlling "he TELLS her to get the morning after pill" "he TELLS her to get an abortion"...
There are mature 20 yr olds and immature 38 yr olds - squirrly
if she "had some mental issues" and is a cutter, she definitely isnt "mature."
like i said several times in this verbose post, sex is for procreation. by entering into the act of sex, the guy should already know that there is a chance of pregnancy that if his sperm causes, he will have to be repsonsible for. if a guy doesnt have children, then he should not have sex. that is the only fool-proof way of not knocking a girl up.
what a sad situation all the way around.. i wonder what happened... | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 9:41:21 PM | dreamsource..I am playing devil's advocate here..this thread was started some time ago...
of course..I only know one side of the story....his.......
he didnt know from the getgo...that she had mental issues...and according to him..she made it clear that this was a purely sexual liaison. And when they knew the condom broke, he asked her if she would get an abortion and she agreed.
As to the outcome? I believe the baby is due soon. Time will tell. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 10:05:39 PM | | she will pay for the rest of her life or u can try to get custody and make her pay. its a 2 way street. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 10:09:44 PM | | she should have been on the pill or patch when are woman going to get it . The man can walk away ur stuck for 9 months its attached hello ladies. Its not his problem its hers. He didnt get pregnant she did. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 10:09:57 PM | | Well, the first rule is....if you don't want a child don't have sex. That being said, he chose to wear a condom for either protection against a STD or birth control or both. Seeing how the condom broke and they knew it did and he told her to get a morning after pill, he signaled his desire not to have a child, seeing how she chose to not take it/get it that means either she was not being responsible or she wanted a child. My guess would be that she wasn't being responsible because if she really wanted a child she could have asked him to not wear a condom. Finding out if he is the father would be first on the list and he would be a fool not to get a 2nd job just to cover the cost of that. If it is his and she goes after him for support there really isn't much point in trying to fight it. If he can't handle the payments then he should look at 1 credit consouling 2 consumer proposal 3 banktrupcy. There are tons of places that deal with this stuff at no cost up front. But tell him to keep this in mind, nobody ever said life was fair.....just step up to the plate and keep swinging. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 10:16:39 PM |
sex resulting in pregnancy is not a "mistake." sex is specifically for procreation
If that were the case, then there would be a lot less sex going on. Sex is also for expressing emotions towards a person...it is a dual function, taken too lightly though. | |
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