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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 1:28:21 PM | Well, now that i am on my own with two kids to provide for and take care of, I am thinking of their future. I also own my own business and home. I dont' need the threat of someone coming into my life and taking that from me, especially someone who has nothing or very little to their name. Damn right I would,. If they didnt' sign it, they're not worth it and I question theri genuinity of their feelings to me.
I've just met too many guys lately that are totally irresponisble and have not a cent to their name. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 1:35:14 PM |
Yeah, but, if you really love him and aren't concerned about his money, why should you balk at signing a pre-nup? I think the level of responsibility he shows by insisting on one should be admired.
That is what you say now...but wait till your in court. And if you do not want his money and so on....then what is the problem signing a Pre-Nup then...????
In my case, part of it was simply because he wasn’t only asking to sign a prenup; he was also asking that I sign away any basic legal rights under our state law – which meant that what we earned together also wouldn’t be part of the deal. Do you think that’s fair? If it had only said I wouldn’t get anything from what he had before we married, fine; hand me the pen…but why should I sign away my rights to half of what I contributed while we were married?
lets say that a man or a woman has 30 million dollars, they get married, and sometime down the road things go bad, they get divorced, is it fair to the person that has the 30 million dollars to have to give the other person half or more when they did nothing to help aquire it... i don't think so
In my state, whatever one person has before they’re married is theirs free and clear; the other spouse can’t touch it. They only split what they earned jointly. But, this brings up an interesting question…what if the husband doesn’t want his wife to work? He has her sign a prenup, then says he doesn’t want her to work…so she’s not contributing money to the relationship…but she’s still contributing…taking care of a house, husband, and kids is a full-time job and it’s not easy. So, she she be left with nothing if he decides he wants out? If she wants out, then that might be a little different – but in that case, if he insisted she not work, what do you all think is fair?
my take.........
I have a fair amount of stuff I have earned in my life so far......
I have not met my "wife" as of yet .....
So what has she done to earn any of my property so far?
so if I got divorced why would she be entitled to it?
stuff we got during the marriage
sure split it up......
before the marriage
over my dead body
I hate that money has to be involved at all
I wish to people could be in it just for love
and leave the money out of it
Exactly right, both on the stuff issue and the money one. No wonder Alcott said “Money is the root of all evil”…although Shaw said “Lack of money is the root of all evil” lol…I’ll take love over money any day. Too bad the one I was with had an abundance of the latter and not the former ;) | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 1:56:43 PM | | here's my take on the subject. YES YES YES. Have a very fair amicable prenup. make an all encompassing plan and make it binding. Lets face it when a divorce happens it usually isn't pretty. You get an all out war in many cases over who gets what and whatever was accrued during the relationship. Who gets custody, etc. And to top it all off usually someone is hurt and angry and their world is over. SO to me a prenup fairly defined, I'm not saying that if you stayed home with the kids and provided for the family, you shouldn't get anything from the relationship. I would want you to be taken care of fairly, especially if you were the mother of my children and the relationship and love was genuine. So instead of a huge fight, a prenup is put into effect and the preagreed upon terms are put into effect to minimize the emotional damage to both parties. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 2:10:43 PM |
He has her sign a prenup, then says he doesn’t want her to work…so she’s not contributing money to the relationship…but she’s still contributing…taking care of a house, husband, and kids is a full-time job and it’s not easy. So, she she be left with nothing if he decides he wants out? If she wants out, then that might be a little different – but in that case, if he insisted she not work, what do you all think is fair?
He HAS her sign a prenup like that? If she signs a prenup like that then too bad for her. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 5:17:15 PM |
So if I bring in 90% of the household items over the relationship and the law says I have to have half of that taken away from me, thats fair?
Household items? I don't think that pre-nups are meant to protect the toaster and coffee maker. They are for people who got life savings and houses to protect. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 5:19:32 PM | Easy solution here everyone ... don't get married, don't co-habitate. You can always replace a romantic interest. You may never replace your vacation home in Antigua | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/21/2005 8:30:26 PM | I used to think prenups were horrid things - how DARE you think this marriage will END?
But now - I think prenups are the ultimate statement of TRUE love.
I love YOU. Not your money and your things. YOU. 
If I can't sign that...I don't REALLY love him unconditionally, do I? | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 12:08:20 AM | I think having a prenup is a good idea.
Of course it has to do with trust because people change all the time, and if something happened to cause a break up, then why wouldn't you want to make sure you would be okay financially? I do not want to rely on another person's success to be okay, I like to know I can do it myself.
I wouldn't want to have someone betray my trust by trying to get money out of me and I would never want to betray someone's trust.
Anger makes people do some crazy things and one of them is taking everything they can get from an ex. It ends up looking greedy and goldiggerish.
I have enough because I am alive and I have a good family that would support me, and a career and working experience so I would get by just fine without taking someone else's riches.  | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 2:56:25 AM | | In this day and age your crazy not to............ If you have something before you get married you should have at least that if it dose not work out. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 4:54:37 AM | A Prenup to end all Prenups.
Prenuptial Agreement.
I, THE UNDERSIGNED, AGREE THAT...
1. In the unlikely event of my not having an orgasm after you've drunkenly rolled on top of me and pumped away for five minutes, wheezing like an old man with emphysema, I shall politely fake one. And it'll be a really good act too, with me saying stuff like "Ooooh, do me slow; you're so good, you're the best so THIS is screwing!" and howling like a cat that's being repeatedly jabbed with a compass.
2. Should your mother show me any photos of you as a child, like those ones taken at your auntie's wedding where you've got a velvet bow tie and a Pudding-bowl haircut, I shall make no comment. Ever. Or even look at you in a way that suggests they are at all "funny".
3. I fully understand that a woman's main role in any relationship is to take the blame. So when you stub your toe in the bathroom or your football team lose, I agree that - by some complex scientific equation incomprehensible to woman - it will be my fault. Even if I wasn't there. To demonstrate my understanding of this principle, I will prepare your favourite meal or, in the event of not being able to cook, take you out for a few pints at my cost.
4. Whenever my friends and I get together for a girlie chat, I will tell them that you are better hung than a large-balled Himalayan yak.
And that you have discovered, contrary to popular belief, that size does matter.
5. And I will also mention this to YOUR friends. A lot.
6. After sex (which I will NEVER refer to as "making love"), I will not expect you to cuddle me for hours till your arm goes dead. Nor will I let my hair annoyingly get in your face. Under no circumstances will I attempt to start a conversation as you are dropping off to sleep.
7. I will never, ever give your penis a "cute" nickname. Any references to this hallowed appendage will be prefaced with words such as "mighty", "huge", "strapping" or "the thunderstick".
8. In bed, I will be as keen as mustard to try any novel sexual position you fancy. Especially ones where I do all the work and you just lie there, grinning.
9. I will ruthlessly interrogate my attractive female friends and inform you if any of them have the slightest bisexual tendencies. Then I'll invite them around for dinner. And hide their car keys so they have to stay.
10. I understand that video footage of such incidents is an indispensable part of the experience and in the event that you do not already possess one, I will acquire a video camera for you at the earliest opportunity.
11. After we split up, I will never sleep with any of your friends or colleagues. Or anyone else you have ever met. Or may one day meet. And if men attempt to chat me up, I will solemnly inform them that you have "ruined me for other men".
12. I understand that mechanical objects like cars, computer games, and remote control devices are beyond the comprehension of women. I will only make a fool of myself if I attempt to operate them, so you're in charge of the lot. Except for the iron and the washing machine, of course.
Signed ____________________________________
Date ____________________ | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 12:23:24 PM | | Pre-nups are just another way of saying: " I don't trust you!" That is not a good way to start a marriage. If you are worried about being taken to the cleaners, for all you own, in a divorce, the solution is to own nothing. Set up a small corporation-in a state which allows Bearer Shares. Sell everything you have-house, car, coins, etc-to the corporation. Issue some Bearer Shares, wrap them up, stick them in a bank box owned by some distant third party...an alzheimers afflicted aunt, or such...for whom you are guardian. Technically, Auntie owns the corporation, as she holds the Bearer Shares, but you can access it's assets...for her benefit. When divorce time comes, you actually own nothing, so wifey-poo can get nothing. Corporations are legally seperate people from anyone involved with them. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 1:14:44 PM |
No woman is going to take my money. I would Scott Peterson her before I let that happen.
I would suggest not getting married because even the most ironclad prenup is vulnerable. | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/22/2005 1:54:54 PM | Acecomedian
OMG
No, no and heck no.
Thats not a pre-nup it is a contract for voluntary slavery.
But to friggin hillarious  thanks I needed a laugh today | |
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| Pre-Nups before Marriage --- good or bad ?
Posted: 9/25/2005 7:08:02 AM | Here is a good rule of thumb on if you need a pre-nup. If the few thousands of dollars that it would take to get one written up is a drop in the bucket of what you are protecting then you need one.
And it has nothing to do with love or trust or anything like that. It has to do with protection. I have things to protect. I am divorced and I have 2 daughters from that divorce. There is no way I will trust anyone that I meet to look after those girls the way that I would. I have no problem splitting what we would build together and a good pre-nup looks after that. And penalties for adultry are reasonable as well.
And its very interesting in Canada. Pre-nups are generally enforced in Canada. The courts generally won't break a pre-nup unless its in favour of the children of a marriage. | |
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