| License to have children
Posted: 11/7/2005 1:05:56 PM | | And all of you agreeing to this how were you conceived? How were you raised? Do you agree that your parents should have applied for a "licence" to have you? How many people do you know who make 60k a year and are parents? | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/22/2005 12:18:29 AM | | awwww.... thank you so much char, you have been like a jmom to me, you are more of a mom to me than my own mother, and i really respect that. you didnt have to be there for me and you were. and to diggy03, maybe not all of the things listed you should need to have to have children, but honestly, it is really screwed up how for alomst everything you do in life you need a licence for, but for the most important thing you will ever do in life you can just go out and do it. I say this cause i know quite a few people that should not have had children, and i was not raised in a loving enviroment. and yet somehow, i managed to turn out ok, but not all people are like me, i am very determined, and my motivation for being a good mom was to provide a better upbringing that i was raised in, and for me kids the remember their childhood as a happy one! | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/22/2005 5:44:35 AM | I think if the lil' buggers just came with an operation manual, it would be great!
But "oops kids" are awesome "mistakes" disguised as blessings!
Oh...and "diaper duty" is now taught in High Schools with the "Baby think about it" program...lifelike "babies" which kids take home for the weekend and have to wear a bracelet (cannot be removed) and tend to it's needs when it cries and so on. Not perfect...but sure is an awesome program.
On a serious note...there are PLENTY of people who:
1) Make less than $60K a year and raise incredible little folk,
2) Are unmarried, divorced, in a new partnership, etc...and parent better than those more stable...
And since when is the GOVERNMENT qualified to provide childraising courses?! LMAO LMAO
I can see it now...we would all be like Stepfordville...with little clones of one another since everyone is raising their children in the exact same manner. Sure would lose a lot of individualality! | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/22/2005 7:54:53 PM | I came across this forum tonight and the first thing I thought was what kind of jack A** would even say this would be a good law. Licence to have children???? The only thing I can say is that there is no need for a licence or this injection he stated. One more thing is if you can have children and do not want to have children I think the guy should take responsability and also the female partner should practise safe sex... OR DO NOT HAVE SEX AT ALL that is the safest way to ensure you do not have children. I think this guy needs help or he just needs to keep it in his pants.  | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/24/2005 10:49:58 AM | | ARE U for real???? what the hell you thinking? cant you live with out the gov up your ass?why would you want them more in your personal life . i WOULDNT LET THEM SHOOT MY KID WITH ANYTHING AT BIRTH . its people like you that we keep losing our freedom cuz you come up with this crakhead ideas too MAKE a better word and then the gov goes and go it . and its making it worse YOUR AN IDIOT | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:08:37 AM | I think that they should put birth control in the water supply.....
and make you pass a written exam to get the antidote.
 moo | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:42:51 AM | I partly agree.
Some people just shouldn't have children. But on the other hand, many couples can't have children and are looking to adopt. It's a no win situation and the victim is always the child, unfortunately.
Also, the government interferes enough with our affairs. They can't decide on many things, why entrust them with deciding who does and who does not have kids? I can see personal vendetta's coming into play. | |
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| Government Teaching Parenting - NO WAY!
Posted: 11/24/2005 11:57:04 AM |
drinkjack said:
Completed Childbirth and early childraising courses supplied by the Government
And who decides what the government teaches? There is a tremendous amount of controversy today on what's right for kids and what's not. That's why it's generally left up to parents. The government has found creative ways to screw up just about every thing that they have gotten into. Why would I want to let them set the standard for something like parenting values? | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 11/24/2005 2:31:19 PM | Everything but the Government part!
Big Brother has enough say in our lives now! | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/3/2008 3:06:23 PM | Did your parents have all these requirements when they got pregnant with you?
If so, well, just goes to show some things fall through the cracks anyways, pardon the expression.  | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/3/2008 4:03:58 PM | The population of the Earth has doubled in my lifetime- if it doubles again, there may not be enough food to go around- a good percentage of the present population lives in crushing poverty already.
China has adopted a policy of one child per couple, other nations may follow suit eventually. It may eventually mean requiring a license and demonstrating reasonable child-rearing skills- hopefully, not in my lifetime, but possibly affecting some people alive today.
Call it a consequence of poor management of resources. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/3/2008 5:41:45 PM | What a ridiculous suggestion. This isn't a communist country and if it becomes one, I'm outta here. The government dictates enough of what I can and cannot do with my body. My husband and I raise twins on less than 60k a year. That's a ridiculous number, and what happens when they lose their job? Do they have to give the kid back? It takes all kinds of people for the world to go 'round. Rich people, poor people, dumb people, smart people, etc.
Someone else raised a good point about the government dictating our parenting skills by this proposed class. There are several right ways of parenting and I prefer the next generation to be free thinking and not robots created by the government. As long as I'm growing them in my body, pushing their big heads out of my body, and then feeding off of me, I'll do whatever the hell I want to with my kids. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/3/2008 5:49:29 PM | | This should be law. It's ridiculous at how the world's population is growing, but some ignorant people just keep having more and more babies when some of them should have no right to have kids. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/3/2008 11:45:15 PM | This is the most stupid thread I have ever come across at the forums.
1. Minimum 1 year relationship.....Who is to determine whether or not a relationship is healthy by putting a time frame on it?
2. Mat leave available at your place of work / Partner with minimum income of 60k/year.....I raised 4 children on half of that amount and they didn't go without.
3. Completed Childbirth and early childraising courses supplied by the Government.....
Are you kidding me? You cannot be serious. EVERY child is different and every child should be treated according to their individuality.
4. Proof of good environment to raise a child ( I.E. No crack houses for baby Timmy ).....Do you honestly think that a quick inspection of the childs environment is going to solve drugs in the home?
Look at the problems the government has caused by taking away some parental rights.
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 12:26:49 AM | | As much i as like the idea it opposes my idea of free will. I see too many unwanted children but the answer is better education, not for the government to control the womb. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 3:40:13 PM | Maybe they'll make this the first law for the new "One world Government", after all, it needs to be planetary.
unfortunately, history gives lessons, one of the worlds most notorious regimes first laws passed was to sterilise everyone in mental hospitals and prisons, and we all know where that led | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 3:54:34 PM | | I think I'd leave the country. The last thing we need is more government. That's why we're in such a mess now. True there are some who pop kids out with no responsibility, or care how these kids are raised, minorities mostly. Then they rant and complain about how poor they are, and how oppresses they are. In reality when you are raised in that enviornment, you will continue it. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 6:18:04 PM | | Anybody not hear about residential schools? thats what happens when gov't interfere- and think they know better than you about raising your kids. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 7:29:49 PM |
As long as I'm growing them in my body, pushing their big heads out of my body, and then feeding off of me, I'll do whatever the hell I want to with my kids.
You can't do whatever you want to with your kids. CPS will take them from you if you endanger them or refuse to get them medical treatment. Enraged?
I'm sure in the next 100 years the option of having your child grown for you in a chemical vat will be an option. Think about the benefits!
1. 100% genetic disease free
2. No damage to the woman's body
3. No painful birth
4. No pregnancy
5. Ability to choose when your child is born
6. Eventually, designer babies
Now, I know some of you would be shocked and, possibly, horrified. However, I strongly believe this is how human evolution will progress. There are simply too few resources and too many humans on earth. Also, we do not have a mentality that allows us to feel connected with others, which is why we can sit here on POF and meeting people in our spare time, rather than put any effort to saving any of the 20,000 people that starved to death today!
While the rest of the world stumbles in a 3rd world darkness, an elite class of humans will eventually rise up and lead us into space and beyond. Don't kid yourself if you think the first humans to goto Mars to colonize will be anything but the brightest and with the least history of hereditary disease. That is exactly what they will have to do if they want the colony to survive. Of course, they will need a lot of genetic diversity as well. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/4/2008 7:33:15 PM | Well, the world governments will control the population and people with another method:
Oil
Either way, with a soaring world population, we either need more gays and lesbians, or we need more people to volunteer not to reproduce. The sad part is, so many people reproduce without a care and then demand everyone else support them. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/5/2008 8:10:58 PM | lol I agree with some of what the OP said, bar the injection bit. Some parents shouldn't be parents at all in my opinion. Some parents really need to get themselves to a child-rearing class, I don't think receiving those classes would make one a robot...
Some parents I've seen don't realise just how much responsibility they have in having children. What saddens me the most, is when I see a parent go to a shop and let their 5 year old (or younger) child choose whatever they want for dinner/lunch. The children aren't getting the nutrients they really need, and parents who just let their children choose what they want to eat aren't very responsible. Worst I've seen is when a parent let their 6 year old child have fries...for dinner. Just fries, nothing else. And they wonder why their kids are scrawny and small.
Has anyone heard of the MTV show, Engaged and Underage? That program should give you a fair idea of just how silly people can be. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/5/2008 8:17:23 PM |
You can't do whatever you want to with your kids. CPS will take them from you if you endanger them or refuse to get them medical treatment. Enraged?
Let's not split hairs. 
For the rest of your post, what the hell does that have to do with anything? Wait, I don't wanna know.
Worst I've seen is when a parent let their 6 year old child have fries...for dinner. Just fries, nothing else.
Funny how just a second ago this read "cake" and now it's fries, but whatever... point is, sometimes it's just not worth the battle, and if the kid wants only fries then so be it. -- As long as it's not on a regular basis. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/5/2008 8:25:21 PM | | rawrr- but that's the problem, those parents do it on a daily basis. I think its just because those parents have given up trying to control their own children so they resort to letting their child have whatever they like. | |
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/5/2008 10:50:28 PM | I love it! I don't think that 60k a year is necessary, many people do it well on 40k or less...
I think there are kinks in your general plan, but there are too many people having children that shouldn't.
I would love it though, if people had to apply to have children. Would really cut down on the amount of abused, unwanted children.
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| License to have children
Posted: 7/6/2008 4:43:22 AM | My only real problem is, it'd never work- there'd always be a section of the US who would outright refuse it- just because there'd be a law doesn't mean people will obey- and so you would actually create a two tier society, where those who refuse it will have all the children they want, live in utter poverty, and refuse any medical treatment whatsoever, in case the government tests them for the drug.
I know I said I only had one problem with it, but, in fact, I have two- wouldn't this be poverty genocide, and could possibly lead to further genocide? Its easy to just say "if poor people can't have sex, there would be no poor people", but the reality would, once again, create a lope sided society, where the rich are literally in complete and utter control over the poor- and there will always be people who desire greater power- next thing you know, blacks will have a more difficult time getting a license, and gays would be completely denied, even if its done legitimately. Soon, you'd have the Government refusing to update your license if you were caught committing adultery, and other foolish acts
There's just so, SO much that could go wrong once you say "you can breed, you cannot" | |
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