|
|
|
|
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/18/2005 12:04:18 PM | no bodybuilding? are you kidding me??
women should strength train! it reduces the risk of osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and also fights depression
give me a toned body over a soft un-worked out one any day | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/18/2005 4:05:30 PM | Slubrub~~ I think most of us were talking about Professional Bodybuilding. That all that muscle is not totally heathy and natural for a woman's body. Now you are right...there is nothing wrong with strength training and physical exercise to keep the body in tone and in good shape. But these again are just opinions. Take care!
RaceChik20 | |
|
| |
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/19/2005 6:45:52 AM | | Hey whoa,...slow down. Women are fully capable of playing basketball and in some cases BETTER than men. I'll bet I could pick one player off of the Uconn Huskies, that would kill every man here in basketball. So eat that! Not to mention bodybuilding shouldn't even be considered a sport. You say it's gross for women,...it gross for men too! If you think that kind of muscle is attractive you're all CRAZY. | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/19/2005 8:33:22 AM | Yeah women can play b-ball... but Im not so sure about ANY of them wnba gals schooling ME any time soon!! Be careful, this is a big pond and there be some pretty big fish in here ( I turned down my scholorship to play ball at FSU to stay in Canada to high jump, so sum of us in here got sum skills too eh)...
but yeah, bodybuildings gross to look at whether its a male or female... but at least its a masculine thing in general.. a muscle-boud woman is doubly unattractive, especially since they look..so manly! Its all about that hip-to-waist ratio thing, and women bodybuilders have no hips or bootie! Sure be in great shape (like the women you see in those fitness contests)... toned, strong, but still with a bustline, still curvacious, still flexible....
as my mind drifts off into la-la land...look ..theres Halie...and Pamela... see ya gotta gooooo.....
oh and I add rugby to my earlier list of no-no sports for women... | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/19/2005 9:04:36 AM | There's a new girl's hockey team in my town for HS girls.
I'm going to support it.
If they have the skills to compete, they should be allowed to do so, in any sport they choose.
BTW-Is fore"play" a sport??  | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/19/2005 9:31:47 PM | | in the past I have supported my sister and my nieces basketball tems and last year I even took my ex g/f's daughter to the Canadian College woman's basketball tourney here in Calgary. There is nothing wrong with women in sports but like previous posts have indicated, bodybuiling is not a sport for either gender. | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/20/2005 8:14:52 AM | | You know Saiyan, I thrive off of men like you. Four years ago when I decided to get into boxing I had a hard time just because I was a women. My first few weeks at a national known boxing gym was hell. The coaches wouldn't help me, and all of the 79 male boxer thought I was there in-order to get laid. I would work out non stop for three to fours straight, and only learned by listening to what the coaches were yelling at the guys. At first I thought why the hell am I doing this, then I learned that I was not only proving to myself that I could it, but I was going to prove it to them also. After two months of going every day I knew I had learned a little bit on my own. Yet no coach there would still help me. So I knew I had to step it up. The only thing I could think of was to spar one of their best fighters. So I asked the coach if I could spar Aaron Davis, aka "SuperMan". This guy had 100 fights under his belt, and was 80 pounds bigger than me. Yet I had seen him work out, and I knew his weakness. I asked my coach to make a bet with me. If I won, he would train me. If I lost I would find another gym. He agreed to it, and every one at the gym knew I would lose. That day was my first time in the ring, and I was scared to death. I thought the guy would take it a little easy on me, yet he didnt. The first round I stayed as far away from him as I could, after he hit me with a upper cut that busted my nose. The coach asked me to get out, and I told him I wasnt leaving till the fight was over. The second round we went toe to toe, and all I hit him with was jabs and body shots. By the fourth round I knew I had broken my nose, yet all I keep hearing was all the men in the gym saying "A girl can't box." I heard the 30's bell ring and knew exectly what to do. I hit him with a combo of body shots, and as soon as his arms dropped I hit him as hard as I could with a upper cut. I seen his eyes roll to the back of his head and heard him hit the mat. That was the greatest sound in the world. From that moment on I learned that if you want some thing bad enough you can get it. The only thing stopping you; is you. Now I am 18/0, with 14 Knos. So tell me Saiyan, are you scared of women that are better than you because your weak? Remember people, to reach your destany may mean you have to stand alone and look funny in the eyes of others. | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/20/2005 9:36:04 AM | hahahahaha too funny!!! I have a female friend whose a boxer with EMBA... know the club???
Im not knocking YOUR credentials, or any womans for that matter. Its not a question of what sports you could do but SHOULD do!! Theres lots of things I CAN do that I dont!!! Im impressed to some degree about you ring success, and all the power to ya!!! Even women vs. women boxing I still do not find as sports women should persue, due to what I mentioned earlier. And watching two women beat each other ugly is no fun either. If you wanna take someone, try my sister! shes 6'2" 185 lb has a 81" reach and can scrap like hell! And she disagrees with me as well btw, she believes if a woman can do it to just do it. I totally agree, except when it comes to seriously violent sports that can leave a woman changed forever. Plus its simply...unattractive to watch.
hahahah Im not afraid of anyone OR anything... much less a woman in the ring!! Ive gone into Motor City Boxing and tied my right hand behind my back (literally) and knocked out their four top boxers. Big deal...pugilism isnt even a complete martial art... personally Id like to go a few rounds with Roy Jones jr. and especially Lennox Lewis... so fearing a woman...in the RING? Whatever. No disrespect, but your enthusiasm should be kept in the ring, and I truly laugh when you call me weak. I wonder, outa all those who know me would agree with you. NONE. I was OUTTA the penitentary system before I turned 20 girlfriend, and lived with the hardest most psycho dangerous offenders to set foot in this country, so Im neither afraid or weak. Dont let a little discussion get to your head...it isnt cause to try to insult someone meerly because they hold an opinion you DONT share. Again, I give you kudos for knocking that guy out (He sounds like a real badass to let it even happen...but hey theres always the lucky shot thing, if you wanna get snotty about it all! lol)
and u can beat me with head and body shots all day...I like that stuff... be better than my present heavybag...last few years Ive been using trees and no bag gloves or handwrap (would explain why both hands are healing and the huge scasrs on my shins...) not to mention that my kick was registered at 76 mph with 750 lb/sq.inch of force.. I was up to axe kicking 11 slabs of concrete and elbow striking through nine. Ive broken necks, backs, and ribs with single strikes and gone to jail for it... got 4 years for my first offence at 18 for aggravated assault...
so careful who youre callin what for the simple fact is you dont know who the **** I am, or what path Ive walked.... even a lioness knows when to bow down to the bigger jungle cat!
Now the boys are hungry... be a dear and fetch us some snacks like a good girl!!!
(sorry Im not really sexist like that at all, in fact Id rather cook for YOU! but hey, you were gettin a lil too nasty and personal there)... and btw.. did you bother to read my profile? Not the one HERE but the link thats mentioned? maybe you should do all your homework before you go talkin shit. Also theres a forum here on what I think about the UFC as well... Again: Do thy HOMEWORK!!
Best of luck to ya ( and maybe my EMBA friend will put you at 18-1!), its all about doin what YOU want.. screw peoples opinions, like mine... Im nobody to you and opinions whether one or many shouldnt dictate your life...or get you so pissed!!
And really, if you wanna take a bite outta the big dog, Ill tell you the same thing I tell them all... bring it!! I wont even hit you once, and Ill still put your pretty lil ass to sleep!!
personally Id rather sit back and DISCUSS things like adults, without the name calling... and other infantile nonsense.... | |
|
| |
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/21/2005 8:09:07 AM | I dont brag ( Sigh..I get that all the time... usually its about other things...) i make statements of fact; but jail was an important part of my personal growth and journey. Watch the movie Batman Begins and if youre really really smart you MIGHT figure what Im talking about, and get some insight into just how deep my shit is! lol
momma always told me that it doesnt matter how you become a good person as long as you do. Oh and also, I simply made reference to it to illuminate a point we should all adhere to: you know not what walk another person has endured to get to the here and now, so exercise some caution and use a little respect, until proven otherwise. Certain assumptions were made because I was centered out for my SHARED opinion, and I wanted to reveal.. that Im not weak. My shirtless photos dont show my long list of nasty scars that show my perseverance, tenacity and what Ive survived... and I think that if Im weak and afraid... then why is it that when I was in jail that it was me that ate first? Weak huh? yeah ok... my reference to my past wasnt outta pride it was simply to prove a point I hope I have finally made! | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/21/2005 8:21:40 AM | | Seems you have a temper, you can't control dear. In my first response I was just speaking of what I have been through, just because of people like you. I will give it to you that I did make one statement towards your being scared. Of coarse all you read was scared and thought it meant I could kick you a**. No love, it meant are you scared because a women can do the same things you can? Maybe there's women in the world that don't need a man to protect them. Yes, it does make me a little angry to see that their is still people in the world that are sexist. Why hate on some one for that? I mean we both share the same intrest. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense if we were helping eachother out? I could go back and forth daily with you on this childish name calling, and yes it would make me punch a little harder in the gym. Yet, I am not the type of fighter that talks sh*t before a fight, I feel actions speak louder than words. So I get it you think women should do for the man. I feel we are equal, and work much better together. But as you can see maybe both of our thoughts are wrong, since we are both on "PlentyOfFish." Just next time you make a Forum as this one don't down the ones that think diffrenty as you. Good luck on the hitting trees, and tell your sister, she hits like a girl... :) | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/21/2005 10:25:46 AM | hahaha..again you make me laugh... thanks!!
I think you need to practice what you preach. Pactice more. Preach less! And take your own advice! And if you think THIS is my temper?? Ahhhh, boy... so many people suffer from the same things, like only retaining PART of what is written. If you reread ALL I wrote earlier, especially my kudos to you and my comments about opinions. I was hoping that my posting would in fact inspire you to hit a little harder in the gym. An unfortunate truth is that sometimes to get the best out of people, especially the really tough talented ones, you gotta slap them in the face sometimes and grab their attention. I guess I did that!! however, mistake it not for anger!
And remember that its not really what you say but how... you write it. I wasnt by any means the only person who said that women shouldnt box (again shouldnt NOT couldnt... did you catch that earlier and assimilate what it implies??? your last posting would be evidence to the contrary), but it was YOUR posting which started out with "Hey Saiyan!". Sorry if i felt your comments were a personal affront. Lets re-read THAT posting...from MY perspective...hmmmm... nope cant see a single reason why! My bad! lol
And I see your point, but I guess we need to define "sexist". I do not think that my disagreement with women doing certain sports (ok ok like boxing) is sexist at all, its more of a health and morality issue, not about physical mental and spiritual strength. Things it sounds like YOU have.
And you bring up a salient point about men "fearing" that a woman can do what a man can, especially in terms of protection. Ive always said that men have 3 primary functions: Provide, procreate, and Protect. All three are obviousy linked. Alot of men, especially those I call non-modernized alpha males, can feel emasculated by a woman who can protect her self. He doesnt feel as needed. Youlll note I said "non-modernized"? I am modernized! | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/21/2005 5:32:05 PM | WOW this is like watching an old Ali/Frazer media telecast prior to a bout, the only one missing here is Don King. lol
No offence to either of you, this is interesting stuff you 2 have going here. You both seem to be able to not only give it but take it as well, congrats on both of you for dealing with this as adults. | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/22/2005 10:23:21 AM | I think the op is OLD SCHOOL........ women CAN and WILL compete in any sport or job that a man can do...... Why should one sex be limited to what they can do ? I think it's bullsh*t and anyone that tells me I can't do a certain sport or trade would be sadly mistaken... it's all fair game here 'boys'.......
Nobody likes to see anyone get hurt in any sport, but honestly I think for some of you 'boys' in this thread that your manhood is being challenged by having a FEMALE compete in your 'sport'... god forbid a female out 'shoot' you, score more than you, WIN..... have higher stats... give it a rest.
Men have always been more competitive and honestly they dont like to 'lose' at anything regardless if it's male or female they are competing against... but c'mon now..... times are changing.... don't be sexist..... what you can do.. we can do. It's personal choice, and nobody has a right to refuse us the chance to participate in any sport.
I've played various sports since I was old enough to walk, baseball, basketball, wrestling, arm wrestling, soccer etc etc....
To the 'outdoorguy' that posted earlier in this thread...
Fine, women can play any sports they want. But next time I am playing rugby and there is a women on the feild I will tackle her as hard as I can and break her colar bone (just as I would do to anybody else), and she better not B#tch and complain about it
I'd really like to see you get any dates off this site now with your attitude. To come in here and openly say that if you were to play a sport against a woman that you would PURPOSELY set out to break her collar bone to prove something....... thats' ASSAULT ..... to even set out to purposely do that to a man is ASSAULT.. YOU have some anger issues here buddy.. sports are meant to be fun but still competetive, not putting people out of commission...
yeah your a real man aren't you..... let me tell you something there sweetcheeks... I'd have a go at you anyday, and let me tell ya... it wouldnt be me with anything broken... it would be YOUR PRIDE... that is broken... you need to grow up.
^5's all the gals that are 'go getters' !!!!!!!! kick butt girls !
oh and longarm... to you hon... you ROCK, thank you ! | |
|
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/23/2005 11:21:40 AM | Outdoorguy..ouch! Thats a rather nasty attitude irrespective of whether you think women should be out there playing rugby. I think we need some deifintive clarification here people... are we just talking about rough sports in general or about women playing AGAINST MEN in rough soprts? Women vs. women OR men in boxing, full contact martial arts and american football I think are outta bounds, again primarily for health issues. Ill repeat Health REASONS!Even with gifted athletes (like my "sparring partner" here in this forum), its generally not favorable odds to put a woman in the ring with a man, and the closer you get to the higher levels like PRO... sooner or later (probably sooner) youll end up on a surgeons slab having your plumbing (plumbing us men simply dont have) removed. And I think we all agree on bodybuilding for the most part (eewwww!). That doesnt mean that women are weaker or anything like that. Personally, I kinda got this idea like one of the stories in Frank Millers movie Sin City where buddy basically states that hes best when his Valkyrie is by his side. Warrior man needs warrior woman... so I personally embrace tough women who can "throw and take a good punch", but that doesnt mean I think she should be QB for the Cowboys! Maybe the average dude might not like a woman who is literally tougher than he is... but Im not the average guy. And country peach brings up a wicked point: times have changed! Us men are still living in the 50's, the Bever Cleaver days where we were the breadwinners and the woman could stay home and rear the babies (shit.. that DOES sound antiquated... and sexist!) Women have involved.. men havent. We are still OVERALL the smarter and stronger of our speciee (Sorry ladies, its still a proven fact time and time again, studies repeatedly show the same results... especially with the i.q. thing. Mine, for example is 139. And yours???). Ive yet to see a woman who owns the overall record in ANY physical sport, especially ones that are PHYSICAL (and not determined by politics and judges)... when you women can CONSISTENTLY hit harder and fastr, run faster, run longer, jump farther or higher or lift more that we can, then maybe we can talk about you competing WITH us in ALL sports... except maybe american football boxing and full contact martial arts! And...you guys arent ready PHYSICALLY yet (remember, the bottom line physically in the sports in question require ... certain body-types and musculature. And us men arent ready mentally (as is evidenced by ..simply insane comments like outhouseguy). It is a matter of what women should play that carry a HIGHER DEGREE of potential damaging to them... to take away the ONE thing that is inarguably exclusive women that we men dont have... Id rqather not play roulette with THAT. Thats not to say that women shouldnt be into OTHER sports that are physically trying and extremely competitive, many of which are mentioned here and fully supported by BOTH sexes (like basketball and hockey)... and although I am against women in full contact martial arts (eg. the UFC) I think its especially important for todays women to know martial arts and self defence and be ready to kick some serious ass... if needed. Still, it would be nice if she had an even TOUGHER man to defend her honor or even better yet had no need to defend herself, but theres just too many sick and bad men out there... some thatll even deliberately try to hurt you just cuz youre spirited. The one thing I will say is that backdoorsguy was trying to make a point, as weak as the ARGUMENT was presented, (and by no means does that mean HES weak... shit its his opinion and hes entitled to it!) the point to be brought forward is that if a woman wants to play rough with the boys, then she should be given NO quarter for being out there.. and sorry girls, alot of us play rough to the point of being dirty. I for one, for example, adore what Tyson did to Hollyfields ear.. and have yet to see many people agree. Those that did.. we're all male. Outwhoresguy was I think trying to paint a grim picture that if you wanna play with us... be prepared. For the worst. Just like we do. No mercy.
so go girls, go!! just be careful! be competitive, and beat us men whenever you can, although thats still thinking inside of the box. You should want to win irrespective of who your opposition is, or what gender they are. Whether its physical OR intellectual... male vs. male, male vs. female, opr female vs. female.... we ALL gotta come with serious game or dont come stepping at all.. cuz some of us carry big guns!
Ladies and GENTLEmen... this has been great [although I wonder how many of you have been able to FULLY keep up in the cranial dept (you know the old i.q. thing again); for I find myself repeating things that I said already! I know theres alot to read.. ] There are ALOT of subtle references, innuendoes and implications that are being missed as is evidenced by some of the retorts made specifically MY way when I had already previously addressed the issue... Hey there are women that are anomolies, and can probably beat most men they know at most things. I too am an anomoly (and Ill beat the best of em of either sex at just about anything), and MY insistence on being competitive and WINNING are as much a nurture thing as it is something intrinsic to my natural "gender" tendencies... pride was taken out of the equasion long before my first black belt. (I know.. you wouldnt know it, right? Well mistake not pride.. for statements of fact. Its all in the tale of the tape...numbers dont lie!)
and I an kick ass intellectually as well as physically ... so forget about competing with me INDIVIDUALLY just cuz you like picking on people, especially men. Im definately the wrong tree to bark up... especially when half of what I say flies over your head (as is evidenced by some of the ...irrelevant retorts that sound written by an elmentary student and are steeped in irrefutable evidence!) If you are going to argue and attack, come equipped, and dont pick on one sentence or statement because thats all your pretty lil brain can assimilate at a time!! Attack the forest and quit trying to dry hump one scraggly little tree! gee everyone..I wonder who Im aiming my guns at here huh?!? lol.. No, really, go an compare postings and see who exhibits opprobrium and ignominy as is evidenced by misplaced and ill-founded, personal denigration over a topic that was amongst the males something predominantly consensus gentium. I wonder who really has the temper problem and who is walking around ith a chip on their shoulder? Both sexes have reps here who need to cool their tempers! And argue LOGICALLY.
ta-ta... I think Ive stirred up enough with my musings for one day! | |
|
chinua
|
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 67 | |
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/23/2005 4:42:52 PM | oudoorguy28
Women can do almost any sports they want......when I'm sparring(3rd brown shotokan karate) I can get rougher than some of the guys(maybe you're just scared we'll beat you?); same in rollerhockey.As for the ones (men and & women) who think all female bodybuilders look like men.......get a look at the ones that compete in natural (no steroid)shows; you'll see a difference; most of them aren't 'cut' all year round- especially when they're natural- you can live on that small amount of bodyfat.When I competed, nobody mistook me for a man.
One reason why some women take martial arts; to defend themselves from men who think all women are weak. | |
|
chinua
|
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 68 | |
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/23/2005 4:45:31 PM | oh boy...saiyan. i really thought more of you....i'm really disappointed. How am I supposed to learn how to defend myself if I don't learn how to throw around some big men?? by watching it on video??? go back to the dark ages. in japan.
edit; i just read more of your posts; you told someone else not to brag??? you do nothing but brag. if you didn't; your posts wouldn't be so frigging long. And don't worry about women fighting not looking attractive. we don't do this to be attractive. We do it because we like it. We do it for ourselves. As for saying that if want kids we shouldn't fight; excuse me??? are you a doctor too??? I'm not stupid enough to fight if I get pregnant....duh...... | |
|
| |
| |
chinua
|
Joined: 9/30/2005
Msg: 71 | |
| SPORTS THAT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE PLAYED BY WOMEN.
Posted: 10/23/2005 10:46:56 PM | thankyou!!!
i don't know why some of the guys seem to think that when I compete in karate......I go against guys!!?? I don't ; i go against women.......when I competed in any sport.....it was against other women....it's only in my home dojo that i spar against men....so; what's the problem? I've seen guys get hit in tournaments; and whine and cry about it .....i've gotten hit a lot harder, and barely felt it.....in class i've been almost knocked out a few times......oh well..:) I'm not out to prove to men how tough i am. I only have have to prove it to myself, and my sensei(teacher).
To Saiyan; One thing I have learned; it's harder to keep control than to lose it; anybody can lose control.....very few can keep it. I'm not impressed by anybody who hurts someone for the fun of it.
Pinkfizz......kanku dai; it's so longgggggggg:) | |
|
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Home
login 
