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 whereisbeadle

Joined: 5/30/2007
Msg: 126
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Posted: 7/5/2007 6:28:12 AM
MY MOTTO


judge a person by their actions and not by what they say. just an idea!!
 Mystic77

Joined: 10/11/2006
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Posted: 7/5/2007 6:36:09 AM
There is no fool proof method for detecting a liar, but yes be cautious more of their actions than the words they speak. Follow your instinct’s & never let someone convince you how to think or feel. Never second guess yourself or question your beliefs. If something doesn’t feel rite or you wonder or you can’t trust what someone says, then react of that ……
 Nick Thinker

Joined: 2/10/2007
Msg: 128
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Posted: 7/5/2007 8:22:11 AM
If the how to catch a liar technques proposed in here work so well, how come they are not applied to politicians and other situations?

Instead of wasting so much time catching liars in rels and dating, why not eliminate the need/reasons for lies? Just a thought!
 007000

Joined: 6/18/2007
Msg: 129
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Posted: 7/5/2007 8:29:33 AM
I take mental notes. When someone tells me something but then later changes the story, it is very obvious.
 Christian seeks Christian

Joined: 4/20/2007
Msg: 130
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Posted: 7/5/2007 11:07:35 AM
read www.lovefraud.com
and
www.howtospotadangerousman.blogspot.com
Great sites, lots of great info.
Good Luck
 Girlflower

Joined: 3/12/2007
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Posted: 7/5/2007 2:38:11 PM
Adding to my "spot a liar" note from before...

One way to spot a lier is when they tell you they were in the "special forces".. lol I have to stop myself from spouting Well so many guys online in single's sites say that I wonder how dang "special' it may be...lol... Also guys under 50 who tell you they were in Vietnam.. maybe an airhead will believe that... Male liers are never available on the weekends...I call them Thursday Dates.. those liers are married... and a man who tells me he's seperated... well he's married too.. but sleeping on the couch or in the dog house at home... Since I'm only interested in detecting male liers maybe some of the guys can relate a few telltale signs that tips them off to a female lier....

Whoppers used to be hamburgers.... maybe a new name for the online lier... oh that profile is a whopper.....rotf...
 aussiegreeneyes

Joined: 6/2/2007
Msg: 132
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Posted: 7/5/2007 9:35:02 PM
bottom line is...if someone is just not making sense with respect to the stories they tell you...its more than likely because its a lie...common sense
 tia2315

Joined: 6/12/2007
Msg: 133
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Posted: 7/6/2007 1:06:10 AM
When someone will not look you "in the eyes" when talking to you, or answering a question, they are usually not telling the truth.
 xxMissExx

Joined: 3/8/2007
Msg: 134
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Posted: 7/6/2007 1:13:31 AM
...... mmmm..... how to detect liars eh????...... open the curtains..... step outside the door.... everyone you see is a liar..... anyone that says that they aren't... is a liar...... everyone tells lies... its in our nature!!!!....just depends what a persons lying about... xx
 johnglc

Joined: 10/25/2006
Msg: 135
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Posted: 7/6/2007 2:30:16 AM
I don't believe in perfect honesty ......BUT I believe in striving towards it......
 grog27

Joined: 2/25/2005
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Posted: 7/6/2007 2:52:21 AM
"how to detect liars.........???"

If he's a lawyer or a politician; if his lips are moving, then he's lying!
See? It's EASY!!
 willox62

Joined: 7/1/2007
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Posted: 7/6/2007 6:03:06 AM
just give them enough time , they trip themselves up eventualy
 rockondon

Joined: 2/21/2007
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Posted: 7/6/2007 11:10:28 AM
^ if a girl asks how her arse looks in jeans she better expect an honest answer. :)

The liars I've encountered often tell stories that are meant to impress - the elements in each tale are taken to the extreme. If they say they were in a car accident, it will be no ordinary accident, their car was so destroyed you couldn't even make out what it was - they were lucky to be alive. And if the tale does not seem to impress, they often throw in more things to spice it up - and then the car burst into flames or it was a pile-up. Liars rarely have minor fender benders.
 astimartini

Joined: 10/17/2006
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Posted: 7/7/2007 4:10:40 AM
If my lips are moving, it's probably because I'm about to cry.
"Why can't you believe me? I really was abducted by aliens".
Keep a stiff upper, young man.
 Achilles305

Joined: 7/1/2007
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Posted: 7/7/2007 5:49:17 AM
I think it's also important to explore in the thread .. what makes a person "lie" and what types of lies exists. I'm going to attempt to answer both simultaneously. ALL people lie for a variety of reasons. There are two types of lies, white and black. Most of us, if not all, know what a "White Lie" is. A white lie is a sort of like a self defense mechanism, used when primarily caught off guard by a person (you're not really sure of their intentions or motive) asking a somewhat personal question about something of value to you (work, family, friends, self, etc). I have told plenty of them because I wasn't sure what they're angle/motive was for asking. When a lie like this is told, it's because you are protecting yourself from exposing sensitive information prematuraly, also you want to keep the conversation going to ascertain what the other person's true reason for asking such personal question. A BLACK LIE, is a lie we all, (or most), are very familiar with. A BLACK LIE is used a form of manipulation, a way of getting over on someone, getting what you want by using others emotionally, psychologically, spiritually, physically, or even religiously, with total disregard. These are the types of lies can cause much grief, untrustworthiness, unhappiness, and distress in relationships of ANY kind, (with adults, children, c0-workers, friends, etc). I believe we all at some point or another have used both types of these lies. Just my thoughts
 dabigfishguy

Joined: 7/2/2007
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Posted: 7/7/2007 7:31:13 AM
Yeah... true that(re: achilles). I'd like to add that body language does tell a lot. And the reason politicians are hard to catch in a lie is because they are "trained to lie".

I discussed this with a guy who has an awesome website about dating. He may seem pretty blunt there, but he got some solid advice there. check it out at http://www.freakydater.com . He knows a lot about human psychology, al though he may seem like an absolute ass.

I know one thing that is pretty true in most cases:

People who fold their hands or arms together while talking, are usually hiding something.

People who are constantly looking you in the eyes, trying to convince you in such way aren't always honest either.

People that can't even look 1 second straight into your eyes, may have some problems with the truth too.

And so there are many more, also described in this thread already.

Having that said, some people are just nervous and have these character trades by themselves. Or they have some confidence problems and fold their hands or arms together because they feel safer in that way. Or, or, or. So many reasons and factors involved... that you gotta do an entire study about it to get your facts straight.
 magical6

Joined: 7/2/2007
Msg: 142
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Posted: 7/7/2007 7:51:35 AM
Body language can help you tell if he's lying or not. For example, if he's talking to you and he smiles, but the smile doesn't affect his eyes, he's probably lying. If he doesn't make eye contact, blinks a lot, swallows, blushes, is fidgety... he's probably nervous, and probably lying. Unless he has ADHD and is like it all the time anyway.

Probably your best bet is to not trust him, not until he earns it. Ask him why he's keeping things from you. Let him know it upsets you, and when he lies to you, you can only assume the worst. Maybe you don't assume the worst, but tell him that anyway, so he feels bad :)
 magical6

Joined: 7/2/2007
Msg: 143
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Posted: 7/7/2007 7:53:32 AM
Because politicains are *professional* liars and bullshitters.

 love_is_all

Joined: 6/3/2007
Msg: 144
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Posted: 7/7/2007 1:44:00 PM
we do, but only by accident. it's the blonding chemicals that do it. it is not our fault. i am telling the truth.
 Nick Thinker

Joined: 2/10/2007
Msg: 145
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Posted: 7/7/2007 1:54:26 PM

Because politicains are *professional* liars and bullshitters.


So are many other people in all walks of life. They "live" and "prosper" by lying and they are not obvious at all, the "good" - "professional" ones. They are better actors than many people who win Oscars. They just apply that skill in a different arena and they are very difficult to tell apart. They thrive on our arrogance to think that we can detect them, because we cannot. What is the solution? Maybe to alleviate the need for lies etc., thus put them "out of business".
 Thundershowers

Joined: 7/26/2006
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Posted: 7/7/2007 9:47:46 PM
When people say "I do not lie" that is an indication that they are liars.
 verygreeneyez

Joined: 3/15/2006
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Posted: 7/7/2007 9:53:23 PM

When people say "I do not lie" that is an indication that they are liars.


Yep. Just like "I'm a nice guy" or "I have not had sexual relations with that woman" or "I am not writing to anyone but you" or "really, that wedding ring in my picture is a family heirloom" or "I wasn't on a date last night, she's my cousin" etc. The variations are staggering. I just figure if he's "all that" he's not. But that's just me.
 Irreverent Lass

Joined: 6/7/2007
Msg: 148
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Posted: 7/7/2007 10:03:46 PM
Well... I've got a pretty good BS meter built in too, but it's really hard to figure out what to set it for when dealing with online stuff. Nothing to go on. No body language, no shifty eyes...

Pretty tough. I'm going to have to give the benefit of the doubt for the most part and not let my fairly extensive knowlege of actions liars take jade me on those that deserve better.
 Wanda49

Joined: 4/30/2007
Msg: 149
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Posted: 7/7/2007 10:07:33 PM
Give them some time before you do anything or trust them with anything you may be sorry for later. See if their actions matches their words on a consistant basis. They have to be a really good lier to tell the same lie twice.... and carefully watch their body language while they are talking to you.
 huntingu

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Posted: 7/7/2007 11:23:00 PM
I will tell you something that I have learned, I was married to a woman for 14 years that I was so in love with that I honestly thought she was an angel, I set her on a pedestal and thought she was holy, and pure. In the beginning she would lie to others and she would come up with the lies seemingly off of the top of her head! I honestly thought well she lies to others but she would never lie to me. That was until she come home and told me she wanted a divorce because she wasnt happy, and there was no other man involved, we seperated on Jan 10, our divorce became final on Feb 20, her boyfriend moved her out of our house by the way. and in March she became engaged to her boss. Her family has since told me that they have caught her in so many lies since that it is not even funny. So with that being said, watch and see if they lie to others, if they do then dont think you are so special that they would not lie to you! that is my experience anyway. This woman told me after all was said and done that she was good at hiding things from me, so now I spend most of my time wondering what did she hide from me?
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