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 Jazzmin

Joined: 6/27/2005
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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:47:07 AM
Something that I have found since being involved in local singles sites...is that there are MANY of us who are now attracted to people who we would have never BEEN attracted to...because we have now socialized and gotten to know them. Yes...I agree...if you aren't attracted to what you 'see' when you just casually meet someone...you won't try to get to know them better. BUT...in attending the events that we have thru these sites..we DO get to know other singles in a much different way...kind of opens your eyes to how narrow minded that you may have previously been.
WHO IN A MILLION years...would have ever thought I (short and on the volumptious side)....would have EVER in ended up with a 6'2" tall...big ..bald..black guy ??? !!!
Well...maybe there was a little alcohol involved BUT...he's still hanging around after going on 4 years !!!!
Angel...
be nice
 iam2anangel

Joined: 12/10/2007
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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:50:33 AM
lol jazz............

You KNOW I'm always nice!! (giggles)
 iam2anangel

Joined: 12/10/2007
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Posted: 8/17/2008 9:56:27 AM
Oh! I almost forgot!!


Long Island Iced Tea, anyone?



On a bit more serious note: I agree with you, jazz. Although physical attributes can be extrememly important when you're just meeting someone, sometimes (as you get to know them) you can see other attributes that you missed on a first glance. On occasion, those attributes are more important to you than a physical one. Great point.

Yes...the events that we have are great for this! They're a great place to just meet someone without the added pressure of a 'dating' scenario. And!!!...a great way to just hang out with friends.
 Devilish1

Joined: 2/8/2006
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Posted: 8/18/2008 12:53:40 PM
As most men are looking for a trophy, so are most of the women.
 tomfish4011

Joined: 12/9/2007
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Posted: 8/18/2008 2:20:51 PM
I agree with u devilish, everyone is looking for a trophy, but what is a trophy?? The trophy is only a trophy in the eyes of the person that has it or is looking for it. Trophies come in many shapes, sizes, looks etc......! big, small, fat, skinny, black, white, red etc... ! Everyone is a trophy for someone!!. I think people get too hung up on why someone dont like them.
 iam2anangel

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Posted: 8/18/2008 2:28:49 PM
hmmmmmmm................


<--------thinking about a whole new spin on the whole 'trophy' scenario.....


I'll get back with ya on that one.



in the meantime...I'm hittin' the shower.

OH! Would that be considered 'polishing the trophy case'?





 Jazzmin

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Posted: 8/19/2008 9:32:42 AM
Hummmmm.....I don't think I have ROOM on my shelf for my TROPHY
 iam2anangel

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Posted: 8/20/2008 10:33:41 PM


<---orders jazz an extra large, extra sturdy, trophy case...for her trophy of a bodyguard.







(huffs* @ 'post too short' message)
 arwen52

Joined: 3/13/2008
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Posted: 8/21/2008 2:50:45 PM
What's FA?

I'm not a guy, but the issue of weight comes up for women, too, in terms of guys. I go for guys whose weight is moderate and am not attracted to guys who are significantly overweight. I am not a shallow person and I wondered if this was really a very superficial trait in myself. I asked a good friend whose judgment I value. Her response was that I'm someone who is physically active, have healthy eating habits, and put a priority on maintaining my weight at the level it is and that a guy who is significantly overweight probably isn't into those things and wouldn't be a good match for me.

I did briefly try dating a guy who was very overweight and he couldn't keep up with me for ten minutes on the dance floor or the bike trail. I did once meet a gentleman who was significantly older than myself, black, and very overweight. Not exactly the kind of guy I'm looking for. But this guy was so lively, so incredibly interesting and fun that after I met him for only ten minutes I had to ask someone, "Is he married? Or gay?" cuz I wanted to know the guy. Turns out he was married but shoot, I'd have dated him in a minute.

Current BF has a few extra pounds, like most folks our age. He also has a funny body shape due to some surgery. And no as*. I love cute little round butts and, unfortunately, I'm not going to get that from him. But he has other wonderful attributes and a cute face. Most importantly, he's fun to be with.

I do find it hypocritical, the guys who are overweight who want slender women. I don't go for double standards. It's a real turn-off.

Hope it's okay to add my thoughts here since it *was* addressed to guys and their preferences.
 tallshyman

Joined: 1/1/2008
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Posted: 8/21/2008 3:35:42 PM
When I had a BBW girlfriend men at work will pick on me for it. I was depressed about it. I don't under stand why men do that for.
 lavieboheme73

Joined: 8/18/2008
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Posted: 8/21/2008 4:37:06 PM
I don't know...I really haven't noticed any problems with guys not wanting to date me based on my size. *shrugs*

I know there are real a**holes out there who will not, for whatever reason, even consider a girl who's bigger than their ideal, but you know what? Truthfully, someone that limited isn't someone I want to date anyway, so they're doing me a favor by not wasting my time and theirs.

That said, I came to pof expecting not to have much response to my profile...maybe I'm transferring my own self-conscious nature onto other people. But the truth is, it's been pretty much the opposite. I think some of the people who've said it's not the size of the package, but the presentation that counts have hit the nail right on the head. Just like a lot of other things people perceive as a shortcoming, if you don't look at it as a reason to be less desirable, chances are, others won't either.

Just my .02, for whatever it's worth.

 drammaof2

Joined: 8/18/2008
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Posted: 8/30/2008 10:08:48 PM
Thank you, thank you , thank you. If everyone could just keep it in mind that it is what's inside that counts. The most beautiful woman or the most handsome man could be in an accident tomorrow and be disfigured and become ugly. But if you have a good personality it is with you whether you are a BBW or small and petite. I have been both and my personality never change.
 jezamale

Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 8/31/2008 12:50:35 PM
Angel,


You are correct in that in the U.S size 14-18 is average... but all that tells me is we have alot of FAT-OBESE woman here in the states.

What is the average weight and size of a woman in France ...Well she is 5' 4 and weighs 134lbs...and about a size 5-6

According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the average U.S. woman is 5' 3.7 (162 centimeters) tall and weighs 152 pounds (69 kilograms). This corresponds to a Body Mass Index of 26.3 kilograms/meters², which is slightly less than the average man's.

Rank Country % Overweight or obese
1. Nauru 94.5
2. Micronesia, Federated States of 91.1
3. Cook Islands 90.9
4. Tonga 90.8
5. Niue 81.7
6. Samoa 80.4
7. Palau 78.4
8. Kuwait 74.2
9. United States 74.1
10. Kiribati 73.6
11. Dominica 71.0
12. Barbados 69.7
13. Argentina 69.4
14. Egypt 69.4
15. Malta 68.7
16. Greece 68.5
17. New Zealand 68.4
18. United Arab Emirates 68.3
19. Mexico 68.1
20. Trinidad and Tobago 67.9
21. Australia 67.4
22. Belarus 66.8
23. Chile 65.3
24. Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) 65.2
25. Seychelles 64.6
26. Bahrain 64.1
27. Andorra 63.8
28. United Kingdom 63.8
29. Saudi Arabia 63.5
30. Monaco 62.4
31. Bolivia 62.2
32. San Marino 62.1
33. Guatemala 61.2
34. Mongolia 61.2
35. Canada 61.1
36. Qatar 61.0
37. Uruguay 60.9
38. Jordan 60.5
39. Bahamas 60.4
40. Iceland 60.4
41. Nicaragua 60.4
42. Cuba 60.1
43. Germany 60.1
44. Brunei Darussalam 59.8
45. Slovenia 59.8
46. Peru 59.6
47. Vanuatu 59.6
48. Finland 58.7
49. Jamaica 57.4


If you notice...we are the number 1 country in the industrilized world for obesity...while France is not even in the top 50

Who are overweight and obese?

:: WHO Department of Nutrition for Health and Development

Overweight and obesity are defined as abnormal or excessive fat accumulation that may impair health.

Body mass index (BMI) is a simple index of weight-for-height that is commonly used in classifying overweight and obesity in adult populations and individuals. It is defined as the weight in lbs divided by the square of the height in inches.

I' m 212lbs at 5' 10" thus the square root of 70' is 8.36...212lbs divided by 8.36 = 25.3 this is myBMI...thats average and healthy......I think that instead of saying that one is average...averge to what a school bus.... we ALL should post our BMI's...that way there is no kidding or lying to ones self...or those that aspire to date a person based on their profile.

Jezamale ......a BMI of 25.3...
 jezamale

Joined: 5/3/2007
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Posted: 8/31/2008 1:03:32 PM
Angel,

I forgot to post this.....:

A Body Mass Index between 25 and 29.9 is "overweight", and greater than or equal to 30 is "obese", according to a recent definition1. This definition is used by the World Health Organization (WHO) as its international standard.

Jezamale BMI of 25.3
 flowerchyld

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Posted: 8/31/2008 2:06:17 PM
Ok..to sound really dumb here...I'm 5'4..so what's my square root..I'm 125 lbs..
I have issues with belly fat..being the apple shape instaed of pear shape
 jezamale

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Posted: 8/31/2008 2:21:48 PM
Flower,

Your BMI is 15.62....... which is very, very good and there is nothing wrong with your figure.....we are older and no one is perfect.....I tend to carry my excess below the navel......and I don't mean the love muscle....

Paul
 jezamale

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Posted: 8/31/2008 2:25:46 PM
Flower,

I forgot to show you how I came to this.....you are 64 inches tall.....the square root of 64 is 8


125lbs divided by 8=15.62 BMI....very, very low on body fat....see you're doing fine...
 flowerchyld

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Posted: 8/31/2008 3:48:50 PM
But I have a lot of belly fat..skinnky arms,legs butt..but big belly
 flowerchyld

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Posted: 8/31/2008 3:51:09 PM
Don't want to get anyone mad in this post..As you can see we all have our own body issues and insecurities..
 jezamale

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Posted: 8/31/2008 4:22:08 PM
Flower,

You wrote: But I have a lot of belly fat..skinnky arms,legs butt..but big belly

And don't forget those big hoodders.....a play on words.....hey look....I didn't make up the formula...The World Health Organization says you are not fat....

Be happy with a BMI of 15.65 or what ever it was...because I know there will be alot of woman on this website that when they do the math.....will be well past 30-meaning they are obese or approaching it....which means they are obese....

Kiddo your fine......did you see my other post about you needing a man to pull the pasties off of the nice dress...

Jez
 whatever0001

Joined: 9/23/2007
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Posted: 8/31/2008 8:24:57 PM
This is not something that I'd have started here, but since it has been presented to us we may as well be accurate. I hate to rain on anyone's parade (Paul) ... but check out the National Institute of Health website. http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/ This site will calculate it for you. I did mine according to your formula Jezamale, and when I saw what it said I knew something was up because it said my weight was normal.... Hahahaha! I know better than that! But I am working on it. I have been thinner in my life, but I don't think I have ever been more content with who I am and how I feel. I'd hate to think that my weight is the first thing a person would notice about me. I admit to being overweight, and have a full length (recent) picture of myself on my profile that shows it.
It's unfortunate that anyone needs to badmouth others because of their size... etc. We all are who we are, and I'd like to think that there is someone out there for everyone. I think the biggest problem seems to be the honesty factor in many people's profiles. Just be honest. First with yourself, and then on your profile. Who can argue with that????
 jezamale

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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:15:14 AM
I am not here to put anyone down.....or badmouth anyone and I agree with what you are saying...it's the honesty factor in so many of the profiles......... when people will lie to themselves what will they do in a relationship...... a size 14-18 is average ...I'm sorry you and I know that is not right.....

congradulations on your efforts....and the 1st thing I ever noticed about you was your great smile...and that twinkle in your eyes......
 SusieStL

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Posted: 9/1/2008 12:46:59 PM
ok... Jezz... until most recently you were... shall I say it? I personlly do NOT want to get sick just to drop my weight.

I don't give a shvt what anyone has to say about weight and the average. IF someone is happy with where they are at AND they are NOT in denial about such... then so be it.

Marilyn Monroe was a 14 or 16 I can't remember which right now (http://www.marilynmonroe.com/about/facts.html ) and I am sure not a man out there would have kicked her out of their bed!

Just for the record... personally I do NOT like skinny...I prefer my man to have a little meat on his bones.. I like to have something to grab a hold of... and it can be muscle from working out... or just a LITTLE fluffy!

and whatever, I didn't realize that was you.. how the h3ll are you doing?
 jezamale

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Posted: 9/1/2008 3:09:20 PM
Sue,

Glad you stopped by...

I just don't want to date someone whose waistline is the same as me...and their butt is bigger than mine.... and their profile says they are an average size....

I personally like woman petite, slender or athletic.....I also like my steak medium rare,
my beer extra, extra cold...my pizza thin and crispy....(like my woman)and my coffee with cream and sugar.....

People ...please.....because myself and others on her perfer thinner people...does not make us shallow....it just means we have preferences like you do....

P/J
 iam2anangel

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Posted: 9/1/2008 3:44:42 PM
And THAT, Jezamale, was the point of my post. And I will stand by every word that I posted. Perhaps you missed the point of my posts, when you read my 'average' comment?

I am quite familiar with BMI, the World Health Organization, the definitions for overweight, obesity, fat, etc. I am also aware of the downsides and health issues of being overweight, as well as the fact that the US is the number 1 country in the industrilized world for obesity. It is a fact.

I am not unaware.

I for one, am totally honest in my profile. And with those that choose to IM/email me. I state the fact that I am a BBW in my profile for a reason. Everyone has preferences. Myself, as well.


"I am not here to put anyone down.....or badmouth anyone" So then...what was the school bus comment?


"a size 14-18 is average ...I'm sorry you and I know that is not right....." I disagree. It IS right. Here in the United States, which is where I reside.
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