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Posted: 9/19/2007 4:27:17 AM | well i have to put in my 2cents in on this one. i belive anything between 2 consenting adults is fine. i've been with women who like being called names and 1 or 2 that don't. it's very simple people.... personal preference. i think most women like it.. it makes the "sex" more exciting. of course this is always done IN the bedroom. one final thought.. it's all good.. just depends on who your with.  | |
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Posted: 9/19/2007 7:50:48 AM |
And most Hollywood actors wouldn't have what it takes to be a porn performer.
well, I really DOUBT that most porn performers would have what it takes to be a Hollywood actor.
because, ya know, you might have to be able to...........ACT! ?
not just lip-read woodenly off of cue cards..
plenty of girls (and some guys) go out to Hollywood with dreams of being a 'big star' but lack of talent and connections has them end up making sleazy cheesy porn..
short list of big name porn actors, and causes of their death:
AIDS Related:
Bob Shane - AIDS
Brad Braverman - AIDS
Lucky Luc - AIDS - Not very lucky...
Lisa de Leeuw - AIDS complications
Lon Flexx - AIDS
Jason Steele - AIDS
Luc Colton - AIDS
Buttman - AIDS - His real name was John Stagliano, and he caught HIV from a transvestite in Rio de Janeiro
Christopher Rage - AIDS
Ryder Hansen - AIDS complications
Thom Katt - AIDS
Kurt Marshall - AIDS-related kidney disease - his real name was James Allen Rideout, why did he change it?
John Holmes - AIDS - Also known as Johnny Wadd
Murder:
Steve Cadro - Hungarian gay porn director, bludgeoned and stabbed to death
Christopher Lance - Stabbed during lovers' quarrel
Toymaster - Killed during a violent crime (?)
Drugs Overdose:
Teri Diver - Prescription Meds - Husband reported that she had taken too much of her headache medicine
J.D. Ram - Heroin
Trinity Loren - OD
Linda Wong - OD
Jill Munro - Heroin
Suicide:
Wendy O. Williams - Self-inflicted gunshot wound - Lead singer of The Plasmatics
Christian Fox - OD
Cal Jammer - Self-inflicted gunshot wound
Rod Phillips - OD
Nancee Kellee - Hanging
Danie - Method unknown
Savannah - Self-inflicted gunshot wound
"Accidental":
Tommy Wilde - Automobile accident
Leilani - Accident related to psychological turmoil (?)
Tom Farrell - Hit and run as he urinated by a road at night
Dick Fisk - Automobile accident
Marc Radcliffe - Accidental bathtub drowning - He may have drowned because he was on drugs and passed out in the water
yes, sounds like a WONDERFUL "business"..Linda Lovelace was not too happy in it, died young, many wanted to get out of it..
froma review of Jenna Jameson's book"
The tales begin in the underbelly of Las Vegas, a cesspool of strip clubs, tattoo parlours, murder and shoot–outs that turned the gawky brace–faced Jenna Masolli into the bombshell Jenna Jameson, one of the most recognised women in the world. Most of these stories Jenna has never told before, for fear of having to spend the rest of her life living in their shadow.
Jameson rebounds in the adult–film business, where she encounters sadistic directors, experienced lovers of both sexes, rock–star lovers, bitter rival starlets, and, finally, glory when as a relative unknown she seduces the international media at the Cannes Film Festival and goes on to become the biggest star the porn world has ever seen.
Along the way, Jenna provides insight into the closed world of the adult entertainment business.
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Posted: 9/19/2007 7:52:36 AM |
At least porn doesn't try to be something it isn't.
LOL! isn't the whole POINT of acting and movies to take people to a land of make-believe, and act as though you are something other than an actor?? | |
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Posted: 9/19/2007 9:31:33 AM | Lovelace died in a car accident.
What are you trying to prove with your statistics? That people inporn are normal humans that die of the same diseases and are subject to the same criminal activity as the mainstream world? Seems like they have less AIDS related deaths than Hollywood...maybe because they are all about safe sex.
I'm glad you don't know what a "tossed salad" is...freaky.
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Posted: 9/19/2007 9:40:43 AM |
short list of big name porn actors, and causes of their death:
AIDS Related:
Bob Shane - AIDS
Brad Braverman - AIDS
Lucky Luc - AIDS - Not very lucky...
Lisa de Leeuw - AIDS complications
Lon Flexx - AIDS
Jason Steele - AIDS
Luc Colton - AIDS
Buttman - AIDS - His real name was John Stagliano, and he caught HIV from a transvestite in Rio de Janeiro
Christopher Rage - AIDS
Ryder Hansen - AIDS complications
Thom Katt - AIDS
Kurt Marshall - AIDS-related kidney disease - his real name was James Allen Rideout, why did he change it?
John Holmes - AIDS - Also known as Johnny Wadd
Murder:
Steve Cadro - Hungarian gay porn director, bludgeoned and stabbed to death
Christopher Lance - Stabbed during lovers' quarrel
Toymaster - Killed during a violent crime (?)
Drugs Overdose:
Teri Diver - Prescription Meds - Husband reported that she had taken too much of her headache medicine
J.D. Ram - Heroin
Trinity Loren - OD
Linda Wong - OD
Jill Munro - Heroin
Suicide:
Wendy O. Williams - Self-inflicted gunshot wound - Lead singer of The Plasmatics
Christian Fox - OD
Cal Jammer - Self-inflicted gunshot wound
Rod Phillips - OD
Nancee Kellee - Hanging
Danie - Method unknown
Savannah - Self-inflicted gunshot wound
"Accidental":
Tommy Wilde - Automobile accident
Leilani - Accident related to psychological turmoil (?)
Tom Farrell - Hit and run as he urinated by a road at night
Dick Fisk - Automobile accident
Marc Radcliffe - Accidental bathtub drowning - He may have drowned because he was on drugs and passed out in the water
And I'm the big porn addict??? Most of those people I've never heard of!!! Geez, with your extensive knowledge of the porn industry it's interesting you don't know what "to toss (someone's) salad" means. Might be just as well. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 12:52:13 AM |
I'm glad to see those from the lifestyle stand up. On collarme, the rules are known by all and respected...here, in the vanilla world, those in the lifestyle are frowned upon. This is a good place to educate the vanillas that ours isn't a lifestyle of degredation and depravity...it is built on the most solid foundation of trust and respect. Sure, there are bad apples in any bunch, but I prefer the lifestyle bunch where there are standards of conduct and no ambiguities.
I so admire your tenacity, but you are wasting your time. The funniest part of the entire thing here in these particular threads ~ people are all up in arms about it being OK for the man in my life to call me his "filthy cum slut" (or any other name yet unmentioned here) with my permission, no less ~ YET these posters are offended by that. They don't know a thing about me personally ~ but feel it's perfectly acceptable to refer to me as "damaged" "abuse victim" "sick or twisted" "molestation victim" "misogymist lover" etc. Hummm, maybe I'm missing something but name calling is name calling and I'm not even intimately involved with any of these folks. Isn't that just a little double-standardish? I mean what if I found being called "damaged" a turn on ~ some of you here would be playing sexual games with me right here in a public forum ~ ewwwwww ~ wouldn't want that now. 
The truth is ~ to each their own. The most telling portion of any thread of this nature is this: Those with knowledge of the lifestyle, BDSM in general or those who truly are open-minded, have enough respect to state: "It wouldn't be for me, but then again, that's just my opinion." Those of us in the lifestyle, whether today, in the past or in our future ~ don't walk around calling non-lifestylers "A bunch of old out-dated stuffed shirts/skirts who have no sense of adventure." Why is this? Because we have a code of ethics that is universal and it is valuable. The wannabes, I don't know if they follow that code or not, nor do I care. I do ~ I respect the choice of any person who is safe, sane, consensual and of the age of majority. What someone else does with their private life is NONE of my business unless it affects/effects me personally.  | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 1:27:08 AM | I never called a woman a **** in my life.
Even if she wanted to me in the throes of passion I just couldn't.
You can talk dirty & say sexy things when you're making love, but this is a word used so often in such a violent and malicious fashion against women, I could not imagine saying it. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 2:06:07 AM | I personally like a little dirty talk in the bedroom and find being a little borderline kinky a major turn on, ...being dominated and submissive then switching it up by dominating my mate...BUT that is where is MUST STAY ...IN THE BEDROOM!
 I LOVE the rough play and prefer it to soft sensual stuff...but I don’t think Id enjoy hearing him call me those names. I find once they are loosely used, then they can easily be used during other inappropriate times and thats just UNACCEPTABLE for me. 
I always make it known to my man... that these words ... C**t, Whore, Sl**, B*t*h ...would be off limits IN and OUT of the bedroom ! There have to be boundaries set if you like it dirty and they have to be known, and followed, or else its a deal breaker!
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Posted: 9/23/2007 2:13:53 AM | GOOD FOR YOU... aSydneyMale !
I agree with you!
Those words are terribly degrading to women, and definitely associated with violent and malicious acts against women, not to mention, how it contradicts all the womens liberation movements that we have so worked forward too.
People, lets not go back...lets all move forward!
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Posted: 9/23/2007 10:44:17 AM | I dont know the ladies you've being ****ing
but the ones i've being in bed with will knock the shit out of me if i dare say that...
and i get irritated also when they call me DADDY... what the **** ... make me look like
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Posted: 9/23/2007 12:02:28 PM | greeneyes well said congrats.
and yes i might not like such names but i dont pay attention what comes out his mouth. and if it added to his performance then fine i weap the benefits lol. but what is said in the bedroom really needs to remain there and not carried over to the breakfast table unless one switched rooms. u get the idea but now the womens liberal movement did some good but also did harm so in thought i do not stand proud on that issue for now we have the right and laws that protect us but places men behind bars cause we can claim rape or harassment really today you cant say to one that they are looking good in that outfit. good compliments will be a thing of the past if we keep b!tching. and no i did not research any statistics and its only my opinion based on what i have seen. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 12:41:06 PM | I have read a lot of the responses here and I am surprised... its each to their own. NO ,women may not like to walk out of their front door and be called a **** etc.... However we would also not walk out of our front door attached to our partner screaming 'give it to me'
Behind closed doors in the bedroom people let go and sometimes fulfil their fantasy...so what if part of that is to be called names if it does it for them leave it be unless you don't like it then you not going anywhere together.
Just because some people like to get off in different ways dosen't make all women who act out of character in the bedroom bad people,sluts or nasty for that matter??
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Posted: 9/23/2007 5:04:39 PM | My wife likes to be called names sometimes during sex. It is part of our playing out fantasy's, I think it is healthy to be open with the one you are with. And my wife is far from a whore or a slut or a ****. So those of you that have a problem with this, that is ok, we are a happy couple that trust each other completely. If it is talked about first and everyone gets on the same page, it can be a lot of fun to role play. Thanks for listening. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 7:59:27 PM | | each their own. personally,i do not enjoy those name,or being called mommy,mami,ma,etc,nor do i call my man daddy. last thing i want to think about when i'm busy is parents or children! | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 9:05:05 PM | | I thought that one of the funniest parts of the movie, American Pie, was when the girl from band camp (Julie?) threw the guy down on the bed and jumped him, saying, "**** me, ****!" It was sort of the saying of the summer with some of my friends. In all fairness, what does it matter? I know girls who like it and some who don't. Doesn't matter. Sometimes sex is serious and intense, and sometimes it's silly and funny. In the end (no pun intended), we want to find the one that tweaks our dials, and twists our knobs (pun intended). I once worked in a kitchen where a woman of about my age with average looks used to complain to me about the food, as if I had made it (Which I had not.) She was actually angry and insulting at times, and it was at those times that I got very turned on. I wasn't concerned about it then, and I'm not now either. | |
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Posted: 9/23/2007 9:11:17 PM | | My guess is that makes them feel taboo and naughty. Some people get off on the thought of being a sex object. It's a fetish. | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 1:16:39 AM | | I was laughing when I first read this post why because I remember using those exact words on some girl I was with why because some girls like it some dont and by the time your going to bed with them even if its the first night you can tell if they like that kind of stuff. One can always tell the subs who like to be demeaned in bed versus the domme type who like to control everyaspect of sex. | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 9:19:18 AM | You obviously haven't been with any real ladies. Just holes. A true lady would knock you on your ass if you called her a ****, whore or anything close to that. You would be rubbing your jaw for a week mister if you called me that. And probably not been able to walk upright for a while | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 10:06:10 AM |
My wife likes to be called names sometimes during sex. It is part of our playing out fantasy's, I think it is healthy to be open with the one you are with. And my wife is far from a whore or a slut or a ****. So those of you that have a problem with this, that is ok, we are a happy couple that trust each other completely. If it is talked about first and everyone gets on the same page, it can be a lot of fun to role play.
That was a pretty good (and different) answer. That type of mutual respect & being on the same page is hard to find.
Kudos to you and your wife.
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Posted: 9/24/2007 10:25:51 AM | | Most women do not like this sort of thing...though some do. Basically, the lower a womans' self esteem, the more she feels she deserves such treatment. Such women also feel sex is demeaning, and sinful...as if they were worthless sluts for engaging in it. They thus want to be punished verbally, so they can tell themselves they don't need to feel guilty about having sex, because the punishment came with the sex. The higher a womans' self esteem, and the more liberated she is sexually, the less she is willing to tolerate such verbal abuse at any time, and especially during sex. | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 3:31:59 PM | | Checkmate sweetie, when you are in the heat of the moment, talking dirty is a very big turn on. It's not that your cursing at us in a demeaning manner it is purely out of lust for each other. It's not like i would let a man talk to me like that out of the bedroom. | |
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