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Posted: 9/17/2007 10:20:59 AM | (Props to the Goddess above who posted a supporting reply)
"If the woman likes this sort of thing, it's probably a clue that she might not be relationship material, guys. One clue is that she's done this before and she likes misogynistic men. If she hates herself, how could she possibly ever love you."
I'm sorry but it is quite deeper than that, and I think the facts need to be addressed.
1) This is a choice agreed upon by two parties.
2) It is about a power exchange and trust of the deepest level. The woman giving you power over her and trusting you will stop when she can't process the stimulis anymore.
3) Studies have proven, as opposed to your mere comment, that most women, whether they admit it or not, enjoy being helpless, verbally played with, and to be dominated...It is part of the nature of our species and nothing to be ashamed about. It is natural. Religion has taken a natural aspect of our being and made it nasty...not the other way around. It is ironic thathte very same institution which makes genteel women cringe at the thought, condoned the patriarchial society which this very subject sprang from.
4) This has nothing to do with misogany, or misandry...I have had more women spew forth groups of words which would make a trucker blush, without discussion, than you could ever believe.
5) In order for a woman to enjoy this kind of play, she must be extremely confident in her own sexuality and trust the partner she is with. I would say it is a deepening of trust, love, and respect which allows a woman the freedom to express herself, and encourage male expression as well, and grow as a lover and not just a passive partner in intercourse.
6) Sexual monotony can be broken up by simple experimentation and keep a love life interesting. This is a simple way to enhance the relationship.
7) I am a Dom and I cherish and celebrate women. I am not a Dom to merely dominate women, I am a facilitator for their desires. I help to fulfill a womans desires and deep-seated needs because she in unable to fulfill those desires on her own...she requires a trusting (and competant) partner. Those needs, and the methods used to fulfill them, are very complex. To call someone a misogynist because they merely userough language...at the womans request...is so very wrong. Misogynists are truly frightening as they are also sociopaths. They hit with fists and words with the intention of causing grevious bodily harm, and not mere titilation, fulfillment of fantasy, role play, or power exchanges. These individuals don't stop when a safe word is given, because there ISN"T a safe word. These are truly abusive relationships and are criminal...there is no basis of consent for the woman involved. They are mentaly and physically abused and are crushed by these relationships. These are the women who need assistance in excaping the true torture which these relationships bring. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 12:18:35 PM | | I've seen porn where Rocco Siffredi was dunking a woman's head into a toilet and some of Max "Hardcore" Steiner who'd slap women and call them all sorts of names, but that's nothing compared to what I saw women doing to each other in a porn flick called "Takin' It To The Limit 4" in the 5th scene with Alicia Rio and five other women. Some people are into acting out their fantasies in the bedroom. That would explain why male corporate executives who have so much power in the boardroom go for dominatrices who will whip and humiliate them. If that floats your boat, then go for it! | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 1:23:25 PM | ^^that is porn and not "real" life lol
I like being called dirty names and being held down just because I like it. it really gets me going, you know? its not for everyone. I'm not 'ghetto' and I do have self respect I haven't been crazy abused or anything like that. I just like it, I don't have to have it though. "Normal" sex is fun too.
Oh yeah and I've been in long relationships successfully as well. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 1:31:50 PM |
I've seen porn where Rocco Siffredi was dunking a woman's head into a toilet and some of Max "Hardcore" Steiner who'd slap women and call them all sorts of names, but that's nothing compared to what I saw women doing to each other in a porn flick called "Takin' It To The Limit 4" in the 5th scene with Alicia Rio and five other women.
It's time to cut back on the porn a bit. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 1:40:42 PM | | ****es, particularly when packed up and a little lean and hungry, will literally kill and eat disabled adults and infants and small children. Most women who hear this word aren't using their minds or they would object, but whore is a compliment in the united states of brothelica by now - hell a huge concert in Atlanta, i think found almost the entire audience cheering wildly at the question, "how many whores do we have out there." and the ones cheering were pretty much all women. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 2:35:05 PM |
I've seen porn where Rocco Siffredi was dunking a woman's head into a toilet and some of Max "Hardcore" Steiner who'd slap women and call them all sorts of names, but that's nothing compared to what I saw women doing to each other in a porn flick called "Takin' It To The Limit 4" in the 5th scene with Alicia Rio and five other women.
It's time to cut back on the porn a bit
yeah, when you catch yourself memorizing the "plot" lines..'reviewing' porn flicks with more gusto that 'real' reviewers review 'real' movies..
cut back! | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 2:36:10 PM | omg i have to admit that i dont usually bother with 9 page long threads but i laughed so much at the opening thread i have to say something.
anyway, ive been with some girls that do like to be called every name under the sun during sex and they can be fun to be with but not all girls like it. im sure this has already been said hundreds of times tho in this thread | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 2:46:58 PM | I'd never want a man to call me a b*tch slut or whore while we were having sex.....
You can have HOT sextalk without being demeaning...............  | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:23:07 PM | "yeah, when you catch yourself memorizing the "plot" lines..'reviewing' porn flicks with more gusto that 'real' reviewers review 'real' movies.."
Real? More porn movies are released in a few months than in an entire year for mainstream movies. It is a 10 BILLION DOLLAR industry which makes up 10% of the US economy...You can't get more REAL than that. And the way hollywood movies suck the big one, I'd rather watch porn...sometimes they are far more entertaining than, "Billy Madison", "Forest Gump", "40 Year-Old Virgin", Me, Myself and Irene"...those movies insult intelligent people. At least porn doesn't try to be something it isn't. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 3:26:58 PM |
First of all, It takes a very confident woman to be able to "role play" in this manner. Any woman who hated herself, wouldn't be able to deal with it. They wouldn't be able to keep the "role playing" seperate from reality.
Secondly, I can assure you that the type of men who are into this, are anything but misogynistic. It's about possession, not aggression. It's not about hating the woman, but loving her, and owning her and making her completely yours in that moment.
Kudos on your great response, those are my thoughts exactly! I love this type of role play on occasion and as long as it's between two consenting adults who both derive pleasure, then all the power to 'em! ;) | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 5:18:18 PM | | its not really acceptable necessarily but most women know that if a guy were to say that during sex, that its just like a heat of the moment type of thing and that the guy really doesnt mean it | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 6:02:33 PM | | Fellas ! I'm amazed! If a woman was to call us an ***hole,****ead, muther****er, pimpdaddy, ****ing moron, dipshit,and on and on............ would we slap the shit out of them? With that said why have we overlooked just about every womans claim to have slapped the shit out of their men if he was to do the same? Violence is violence and last I heard women wanted to be treated as our equals. I believe it is fine time we reassess our views on many issues! | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 6:08:55 PM |
Fellas ! I'm amazed! If a woman was to call us an ***hole,****ead, muther****er, pimpdaddy, ****ing moron, dipshit,and on and on............ would we slap the shit out of them?
Nope. I would just think it's cute and chase her down and spank her pleasantly. I have long legs so it's not an issue.....I can run faster too so there isn't much hope of getting away. Poor thing. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 6:44:09 PM |
When will we as men pull our heads from our nether regions and take life serious!
What part of my post did you actually think was not serious? What made you think this? I could not have been more serious. I do not react in a negative fashion to any of those types of things. THAT would put me in the lock step cadre of total dumb a$$es. I do not have an impulse to continually make myself right. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 7:22:11 PM | | Meanwhile we leave our women with the false impression that what they say or do contempt will be met as we see fit. On the otherhand you let hear of a man even suggesting that he'd levy such punishment upon a woman, even kidding just the slightest and his ostriscizing would be the equivalent to congressional hearings. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 7:31:01 PM |
On the otherhand you let hear of a man even suggesting that he'd levy such punishment upon a woman, even kidding just the slightest and his ostriscizing would be the equivalent to prison induction.
I understand. Let me try it this way. I don't have bad blood with women. Thus I am not in that reality that you speak of. True, it exists but I am not part of it. I have never had a woman, other than my mother, ever say that they were going to do bodily harm to me. I believe that if a total and complete DUMB A$$ did say some naughty nasty things to a woman, OUT OF CONTEXT she just might take a poke at him. She was speaking half rhetorically and have truthfully. She has NO IDEA what she is missing if she truely doesn't like anything spoken to her in a naughty nasty way. This is her loss. I can let her be. I do understand your viewpoint.......but it's not practicle or indicatively intelligent. A definate no win....either way. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 7:44:34 PM | alright well apperantly i'm not a real"lady" b/c i would like if a guy said to suck his******** or to spank me oh well i guess i'll deal | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 8:16:09 PM | well maybe some women should get bustin a move and not make the man do all the work then? that way theyd get more respect. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 9:16:30 PM |
alright well apperantly i'm not a real"lady" b/c i would like if a guy said to suck his******** or to spank me oh well i guess i'll deal
Sexymama225, you're a REAL lady in my book! I'd do both of the things you said, but you said you're married in your profile. | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 7:50:25 AM |
one, I'd rather watch porn...sometimes they are far more entertaining than, "Billy Madison", "Forest Gump", "40 Year-Old Virgin", Me, Myself and Irene"...those movies insult intelligent people. At least porn doesn't try to be something it isn't.
LOL! :) yes I admire all those talented thespians in the porn flicks with 'plotless' film
I'm pretty sure there are WAY more porn actors that dream of being accepted in hollywood movies than the other way around..
most didn't have the talent to be real actors so they had to 'settle' | |
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Posted: 9/18/2007 6:31:10 PM |
LOL! :) yes I admire all those talented thespians in the porn flicks with 'plotless' film
I'm pretty sure there are WAY more porn actors that dream of being accepted in hollywood movies than the other way around..
most didn't have the talent to be real actors so they had to 'settle'
The porn flicks and actors I mentioned were really big (no pun intended!) back in the mid-1990s, when I was a college student. I haven't seen too much porn released since then. All I know about porn nowadays is that creampies seem to be more popular, as well as "tossing the salad".
And most Hollywood actors wouldn't have what it takes to be a porn performer. I'm not just talking about willy size. A guy has to maintain an erection, even if he's not enthralled with the girl he's with. Not every guy gets to bang the top-notch girls starting out. In fact, few do. And then he's got to "come on cue". On the other hand, Ron Jeremy has made some forays into mainstream Hollywood. | |
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