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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 4/30/2006 1:50:55 AM | I have found that a lot of men where I live don't want an "instant family" they want one of their own. They are willing to let a perfectally good woman go for that reason. I don't know maybe it's only me who gets that. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 4/30/2006 9:46:06 AM | I have found that a lot of men where I live don't want an "instant family" they want one of their own. They are willing to let a perfectally good woman go for that reason. I don't know maybe it's only me who gets that.
I find this funny from a woman who has in her profile....does not want kids...looking to hang out.
Can you say "double standard"? Kevin | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/2/2006 1:34:52 AM | I wouldn't introduce anyone I meet to my child unless I knew we were going to be together for awhile and he or she was comfortable with me having a child. It's very hard to meet someone period. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/2/2006 3:14:53 AM | | Yes, we are out there. Well, I am at least. But I'm taken. My girlfriend has 3 kids(4, 11 & 14). I don't mind because she is not the type of person who is looking for a dad for them or a paycheck. Not only does she have kids, but she actually has a full-time career oriented job. Now THAT is hard to find! She's a 5th grade teacher and comes home to a house full of kids too. As for her kids, I met them right away but we've eased them into what we let them see and hear between us. It was 2 months before the first time we kissed in front of them. Anybody have questions(but NOT spam) feel free to email me at josh@vbnative.com. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/2/2006 10:27:38 AM | HA! Try being a single MOM of 4 kids They hear four and run like a prom queen with a pimple !!!! Me personally I DONT need a baby daddy, I dont need money, I prefer to live alone with my kids !!!! but they always have that same train of thought " Oh she just looking for a baby daddy" ! I make DAMN good Money I dont need no Man to raise my babys, all I am looking for is a man to share what (little) time I do have!! Can they not understand that ?????????? | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/2/2006 3:01:50 PM | | I am sure that there is men out there that will date women with kids, I find that there is more men that dont want to date single moms though, and thats their preference/loss as far as im concerned. I know how much i have to offer someone, and im in one of those rare circumstances where i get along with the ex and everyone is happy. But, there will always be the stigma that comes with being a single parent, thats why we need to stick together. I find that I look for men that have kids since they might be more inclined to understand the in and outs of parenthood. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/3/2006 5:16:49 PM | My email box is getting empty....so I thougt I would add some excitement from all the hate mail I would get on this observation and life experience:
Here is the real reason that men are starting to become less and less available to the 'single mom'..........
First....let's paint a little picture.....
Let's suppose that 'the perfect man' (in your eyes, ladies) comes along and says, "I'll take the entire package...kids and all."
And that man is there every night helping your little loved ones with the homework (because, well, YOU don't remember your algebra too much, and your ex is nowhere to be found to help), he attends the school functions, the basketball games, the plays, the P/T conferences, spends his money on your kids for daily meals, the 'must haves' (ipods, xboxes, and all the other things you mom's spend on your kids to keep them occupied while you sit on a computer or have your nights out with the 'ya-yas'.) Christmas presents, bikes that get stolen. He actually teaches things like, 'sex talks', guitar lessons, how to hit a baseball, he not only WOULD wash your kids clothes, (because don't all you ladies complain about men doing EQUAL housework to help your poor little tired souls?) he actually TEACHES your teenagers how to wash clothes too...or to say...COOK...(because kids NEED to be taught how to do those things to prepare them for LIFE.) He chapperones them to all the 'cool' things like Ozzfests, Warped Tours, concerts, dances....he teaches 'moral values' to your kids so they don't wind up acting like some of your FRIENDS kids. (the fact that you actually HAVE friends with kids like that is usually BEYOND me...) And, he is actually able to get them to do their chores the FIRST time he says to do it, while you take FIFTEEN TIMES of REPEATING yourself until you're screaming at them...(didn't you want somebody to HUP TO IT when you say?)
Basically, he does EVERYTHING you complain that a man would supposedly NEVER do, of which you claim to so DESPERATELY want.......aaaaannndddd then.....
The second the man might have a need (and I am NOT talking about sexual...though lets face it ladies...the reason why those kids of yours ARE on the planet is because...well...you just couln't apparently say NO and keep your legs closed.) for either intimacy, financial inclusion, household decisions, or anything that represents decisions a COUPLE should make to make a happy household, you are programmed to answer in one way, and one way only.... "My children come first!"...or..."My friends come first"....or...."you don't underSTAND how much more emotionally COMPLEX I am than you....."....you don't UNDERSTAND!!! Basically, he's good enough to DO for you. He's just not good enough to expect anything in return.....(because aren't we ALL supposed to just give without receiving, lest we be considered selfish?)...............To put it bluntly, "SELF ENTITLEMENT" has been replaced where GRATITUDE should have been.......
I used to actually feel very sorry for 'single moms'. But my generation of women have, unfortunately, LOST something that older generations knew...which was....'your MATE comes first'. After much talking, observing, and deducing on this very issue, it has become very clear to me that your need for 'instant gratification' has prohibited you from getting the very things that you wanted out of a man. Show me a single mom now, and I'll show you a woman who pretty much forgot to be a 'wife' first after the 'little darlings' were born, and a man who probably just finally got dejected enough from having his 'husband rights' violated in favor of THE KIDS. I've heard the excuses, always somehow blaming the man, (and before you get all steamed...yes...there ARE some lousy guys out there....but, there were just as many GREAT men that turned that way till you and your divorced or single man hating friends all said, OPRAH IS GOD.....WHO NEEDS A MAN!! I want equal EVERYTHING without equal accountability...., only to whine that you can't find a good one...can you say...KARMA???!!)
What has happened now is that your kids are SPOILED ROTTEN by YOU. You have made your children your "surrogate mates". It is very EASY to be able to control a child...(some of you can't, by the way.)
Do you NOT know that if you REALLY want to teach your kids the FINER things in life about having GOOD RELATIONSHIPS is by SHOWING them HOW to put a mate FIRST? That is how it is supposed to be!! Period. End of discussion. I know some of you THINK you've got a better solution to apparently fooling the law of NATURE....but if you were so GOOD at it, why are you a SINGLE DIVORCED MOM, with your kids all turning out to be XBox brats?????
The first time I now see an ad that says...."Are there any GOOD men left?"....immediately followed by...."MY KIDS ARE MY WORLD".....I quickly pass them by.....some of you are in a serious COMA these days, Oblivious to the fact that it is YOU who have prohibited yourself from getting what your headline wants......
Regrettably, it has become very obvious that the women of my generation are NOT like what would be painted on "Jerry McGuire" when it comes to being single moms. You do NOT want any man to complete you.....because apparently, your KIDS already do....!! What man would ever want to compete with THAT anymore??? for once....THINK....REEEEAAAALLLLYYYY THINK....instead of what ALL the media tells you you should want.....(which is just a way to take your money away from you ladies....).
And lest you think I would ever make this up.....above was an EXACT life scenario.....one to now not be repeated. It's a shame when a man will take the 'entire package', only to know he was never actually considered as PART of the package......which is all any man would ever REALLY want.....
You can HATE me for saying this.....but as Elton once said...."Don't shoot me...I'm only the piano player"..... | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/3/2006 5:42:00 PM | Well, well, well .. . . I am going to use my "granny senses" and figure you have been hurt once or twice or possibly stood by and watched it happen to your friends! I feel for you, I really do.
I understand where you are coming from and I have to agree . . . listen up all you single women . . . YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT ALWAYS BE AROUND THEY GROW UP AND MOVE ON WITH THEIR OWN LIVES - - SOONER THAN YOU THINK!! YOUR MAN WILL OR AT LEAST SHOULD BE WITH YOU FOREVER!! HE MUST COME FIRST!! I am not saying if your child is sick to ignore him/her . . I am saying if you value your man at all . . respect him for what he does day in and day out for you!
Guess I will shut my pie hole now . .. everyone have a great night!!
Keep playing piano guy!! Keep playing!!
Ruth  | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/3/2006 6:01:55 PM | Ruth!!!!
Thank you VERY MUCH for saying exactly what you said.... I was going to add that into my diatribe as well about the kids 'leaving the roost' while the man will be the one, (if he is the right man) to be there when the botox doesn't work anymore, the breast implants have gone HARD, the legs are all covered in varicose veins from wearing those 400 dollar Mahlano Blahnik shoes that are so important to every woman since watching Sex In The City.
The man is going to be the one to be there when you've gone into the hospital from whatever has come along your way that you didn't expect....he's going to be the one to spoon you at night when you're crying......
the kids?
The kids are going to call home and say....'can you send me more money? You forgot how to teach me how to survive out in the real world....and I found out I can't have it ALL MY WAY like I could at your house MOM!! Can I move back in?' (Wasn't there just a movie about this with that stud Matthew McCaunahey? (sp) )
And just for the record....
Yeah...sure...I might have been hurt once about something like that. But as I get ready to get on another plane for another city, actually living a life of "TRAVEL AND FINE WINE" like so many of the ladies seem to put in their profiles of 'needs', I'm reminded that life goes on, and I'm just FINE without ever having to have that sort of 'DRAMA' in my life again...
Thank you for understanding, and for being one of the LOST GENERATION of good women....they definitely do NOT make them like you anymore!!!!
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/4/2006 12:54:36 PM | well for me i do care if a woman has kids if its under 2 then fine and well under the age of 7. to or more is a little to much for me and yes the womans age is a big factor as well. but in all honesty as long as me and the woman im dateing see eye to eye and fall in love with each other then the amount of kids dont really matter.. but keeping in mind that those are not my kids | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/4/2006 5:50:08 PM | well mam, Ive dates a misses with a 13 year old daughter, and it didnt bother me one bit... and i also dated misses with little ones ageing 2-8 so thiers no problems their... the hardest thing about it is some times the little ones will give a hard time about not being thier "real dad", but like i said before to the little ones i aint thier to take thier daddy place... jay | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 8:55:08 AM | | In truth, we love our children and our spouse in different ways. I say neither one should be more important than the other, but in different ways. Yes, we need to be there for our man too--he's not just a helper, he's one of the beloved. Unfortunately for me, my husband went his separate way--with my best ex-friend--and my daughter passed away in 2000. Now, I'm raising my two grandchildren ages 15 and 17 alone. Not an easy thing to do, but I'm taking care of it just fine. The only reason I would want a man in my life is to love and be loved by him--not make him a caretaker. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 10:13:33 AM | | Hello My name is Kevin and i want meet you can you sed me a e-mail so we can becom ferends you can e-mail at nightcourt2003@yahoo.com are nightcourt2003@hotmail.com Ps: NO MEN i am not gay ok Have A Nice Day. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 10:52:55 AM | | Not all single moms put their kids before anyone else. I love my son but I understand that in order to stay sane I need to have time for myself. I would never ignore my 'other half' (if I had one) or let him do everything for me and not reciprocate. I'm so ****ing sick of people generalizing people. Not all single moms are how you say they are just because a few have screwed you over. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 11:02:51 AM | I was reading all of you're responses.. And of course they all make sense.. I'm 21 and I have an 11month old daughter.... It is very hard to find a responsable stable guy that wants to be with someone that has a child.. and the guys that don't mind it and would love to be there for you are alll guys that live half way across the world... I'm a simple girl, and I'm not asking for the greatest man out there..and I don't want a rich guy.. and I don't want a guy to replace her father..because that's definetly not right.. but I would love to have a man be part of my life and show her what a true father figure is and there is actually someone willing to give her that reassurance that someone else cares about her as if she was their own. And, I used to always think there was no caring guys out there.. but you know what a women's fault is.. we always want someone that looks good.. it's not always about looks.. the love and emotion someone has isn't carried on the outside.that has to be come from within a person and in order to find a great man you gotta look past the physical apperence as well as the things he doesn't have.. and findout who he truly is as a person and that's when you'll find a man to be a part of you're life as well as your children's life.. I might be young..but I understand lots about relationships and i know what im talking about.. There are amazing goodlooking,sweeeet,loving,respectable guys out there..But the more you go out looking for that person the more crap you'll find..the longer you wait the more good will come you're way..but that doesn't mean the first guy that comes to you after a year and a half of waiting is going to be you're soulmate.. but I'm sure he'll have a big enough heart to accept the person you are and he's willing to dedicate himself for all you've got to offer... JUST think about it... really.. give it time..and that guy you've always wanted to be part of you're life.. he'll come and get you!!  | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 12:26:01 PM | I've dated several women with children. My wife of 4 years, I dated for 8 years prior to marriage had two daughters that I essentially raised. Now divorcing, I have been raising my son from her myself as a single parent. So, my question is: are there WOMEN who date MEN who have children?  | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 1:26:07 PM | Great post Could*I*BeYourGurL, but I do have to ask you one thing. You said...
It is very hard to find a responsable stable guy that wants to be with someone that has a child.. and the guys that don't mind it and would love to be there for you are alll guys that live half way across the world... Is there anything wrong with that? You don't think a responsible, stable guy that fell in love with you would move to be with you? If he wouldn't, he's crazy. (And I'm not specifically talking about you CIBYG, I'm talking about any lady out there, with or without kids.) | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 1:34:45 PM |
You don't think a responsible, stable guy that fell in love with you would move to be with you? Perhaps he would, but the INS don't want him to... OTOH, perhaps precisely because he is so far away he can say such things, because there is no danger to be called on them. | |
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| do men actually exist that date women with kids?? Posted: 5/5/2006 1:37:35 PM | That is a question I'm facing also; I have my 2 kids 24/7; but I really never find any single moms, or women that actually want to step into a relationship with a guy like me. A few tried, but they didn't like the idea that my children will always come first; even above myself.
Meh, maybe I'm just ranting. J | |
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