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 jdschaps

Joined: 8/22/2006
Msg: 26
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Posted: 9/2/2006 5:22:16 AM
true.. thier should be mutual attraction.. just not physically... but most men are looking for a one nighter... a knotch on the ole belt to brag to the men brothers friends.. blah blah blah... and then worry weather or not they have a connection.. until thier stuff gets hard n needs another round with miss empty with mr empty... go figure...
another round of putting the ole horse before the cart... arggggggggg...

another words know me then lets go from thier... and if ur not ... attracted... go home and stroke it...
 LOVEHUGS

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 27
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Posted: 9/3/2006 5:00:18 PM
In one Steve Martin movie, he said a line that really rings true

"The good looking guys marry the good looking gals, and have good looking kids"

Its called "Natural Selection", the women naturally seek out the attractive guys and just "dump" anyone else, so many many times - I have received "dial tone" on the other end of the phone conversation when she downloaded my picture; not even a "I don't think you are my type" - but just CLICK DIAL-TONE, had a door slammed in my face once, women that were supposed to meet me on a blind date; walk towards me and then walk the other way

?????????????
 ATVMIkeTN

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 28
WOMEN ARE ONLY ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS
Posted: 9/8/2006 5:29:04 PM
Women are EVIL...
 ATVMIkeTN

Joined: 2/16/2006
Msg: 29
Why are a lot of women shallow
Posted: 9/8/2006 6:17:08 PM
A man sets himself up for headaches, heartbreak, self-doubt, etc. by placing his worth on external sources, especially in the fickle mind of a woman.
 LOVEHUGS

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 30
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Posted: 9/10/2006 8:41:55 AM
Hello there, this is Mike

I would like to tell you that I have TRULY found the **SECRET** of dating, and its so incredibly easy; men and women have been spending far too many hours wasted - when, if they simply knew of this secret - it would save them thousands of hours and millions of dollars

Do not attempt to argue this point, I have done EXHAUSTIVE research on this subject and if you knew anything about how humans work - you would totally agree with me

Be it human, or ape, or mountain lion - God designed the female to search out the strongest, the most attractive of the species to mate with, in this - the female will insure or have the best chance of the species to survive, look at the mating habits of ducks or other animals - the bright plumage on the males which is used to attract the females, on other animals - its the same, physical attraction is the key

It is EXACTLY the same way with humans, Women are **ONLY** interested in looks

I have been using the internet for approx 10yrs now, I have used

) Yahoo Personals
) Udate.com
) Match.com
) Craigslist

And many others - and everytime, and I mean EVERYTIME - I find a nice profile I like, I send out a very nice introduction letter - saying the basics about me - gender, age (50), weight (220), height (6ft-4in), no smoke/drink or drugs, what I am looking for (long term monog relationship in a friend, companion, and more) - I have a good job, make good money, have a great family (grandmother rides the bus everyday at 101 !) and a genuine desire to give affection (I love to touch and hold hands); I am a true gentleman that opens doors for the lady, and more

What do I get back in *EVERY* letter ?

"SEND PIC"

THATS ALL !!

Not once, do I get anything like:

"Hello, nice to meet you"
"Good morning"
"Hello"

Just once - I would like to get something more than just SEND PIC

So, If I start talking to her on the phone within the first 30 seconds of the conversation she asks or demands a picture; I email her a picture - or point her to my webpage

Time and time again - I get a few seconds delay, and then something like:

"Oh, I see your picture now -" CLICK DIAL TONE

I have even had them have problems getting to my webpage, and had to talk their neighbor or son thru the http://www. stuff - and the same thing

"Oh, I see your picture" CLICK DIAL TONE

Several times, I have had the blind date setup and they didn't show up, come to find out - they did show up, saw me - and simply went home without introducing themselves

One of which, I called up the next day and she said

"Oh, I saw you - you are an ugly son of a ****; so I went home"

I am clean shaven, I wear nice clean clothes, my hair is always very nice and short, I do not have any warts, or things growing out of the side of my head, I don't break mirrors or frighten small children, except for my height (6ft-4in) - I am just about normal - I get along wonderful with my co-workers at Intel, I manage a couple of technicians and write test plans for them

But, I have a lot of love in my heart and soul to give to the right lady, I love giving love - treating a lady like a lady - its funny, when I go out with my married couple friends, I actually get my male friends in trouble !! when I open the car doors for their wives !!

Women do NOT care about personality or affection or any other qualities, I have even overheard women talking about their dates and meeting other men - things like "I hope he is good looking", "is he cute ?" - "I don't want to meet him unless he is attractive", things like that

Women are driven by appearances, look at the items in the grocery store, items to appeal to women - they are always brightly colored

When I buy laundry soap, I buy what is on sale - or the cheapest, not the one in the prettiest package

I know you will argue with me, and think I don't know what I am talking about - thats fine, I have never known the pain or discomfort of having menstruation cramps, but you have not been a man and known the way women treat us men; if you could be a man for just one day - and see the terrible way that women treat us

Look at the personals for women, look at the adds

"must be attractive"
"must be good looking"
"must be ...."

Sure, I have been on some dates - they have been disasters, I have had at least 3 women that just wanted me for sex - they outright said "I am not looking for a relationship right now, but having a no-commitment sex playmate would be great"

It used to be when a woman invited me over to her house on the first date she wanted sex, now - I come to the door - and they lead me upstairs to FIX THEIR COMPUTER!!, several times that is happened ! one lady actually talked to her boyfriend while I was at her computer!

What happened to courting?
Dating?

Things like that ??

52 yrs ago - my uncle tried to borrow my dads truck and they became friends, then he said "hey, you should date my sister" - and poof, here I am !!

My grandmother was working at the fair, playing her squeese-box, and meet my grandfather playing his violin and they became friends and married !!

Dating is a lost art, with todays movies/tv - the women think that every man should be Tom Cruise or Bruce Willis, and pretty much think - they will just keep looking

Steve Martin once said in one of his movies

"The good looking guys marry the good looking girls, and have good looking kids"

Us normal looking men, really have no chance in todays world of dating

Believe me I KNOW what I am talking about

WOMEN ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS
WOMEN ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS
WOMEN ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS
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WOMEN ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS
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 seasons in the abyss

Joined: 4/17/2005
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Posted: 9/16/2006 5:02:39 PM
Lovehugs...........

maybe your profile needs some adjusting er something. i read the dang thing and it breaks down what you do and stuff like that, and also goes on about what you would do with a woman in a relationship, but something seems to be missing. i dont feel it tells me much about what you are like in person, and i dont feel it really paints a picture of what your personality is like.

also your profile seems like you are the surest/safest bet. woman like some adventure/allure/mystery. thats just how humans are. we seriously need to be intrigued(sp?) Do you wrestle alligators in your spare time or do anything thats adventurous/amusing/entertaining? Maybe your a shred poker player, or used to be a beast who would pancake guys on the football field in your youth? you need a hook brother, and a big sharp one at that. hell, sometimes people have pictures of things other than themselves in thier profiles, and those tend to get me to check out thier pofiles and what they have to say.

also your constant pity party in this thread wont make you very attractive if woman get a message from you, then as they read over your profile scroll down to read to latest posts, and read all that "woe is me" crap.......follow me? if you dont already post in the other forums i suggest you do so, and maybe you do need to post some dang pics in your profile....be it you or something else.

that is all............for now.
 ksmiley82

Joined: 10/6/2006
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Posted: 10/23/2006 11:34:06 AM
i resent that fact that you think most of us women is shallow but i am not shallow. i do not look for looks in a man, i look for personilty. i care about what is on the inside not the outside. looks has nothing to do with a relationship. it is about comtment and communication not looks at all
 pageturner

Joined: 7/26/2006
Msg: 33
Why are a lot of women shallow
Posted: 11/8/2006 10:07:03 AM
lovehugs...I am sorry to say that I would have agreed with that in the past because I had the good looking guy. Thought that was all that mattered for almost 11 yrs. Then I figured things out and ended up divorced. I have learned a very important lesson from this.
I have learned that can't be the only thing a person (man or woman) looks for. If so, you are setting yourself up for failure. Beyond how the person looks is so much more important. They may be the hottest person you have ever met and the most shallow person you have ever met. There is so much more to a person underneath it all.
A lot of people are interested in looks but, I am here to tell you that not all of us look at that first. Not all women are that way......some of us are more interested in what kind of human being they are!
 LOVEHUGS

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 34
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Posted: 11/22/2006 5:41:26 PM
They should call this system Plenty Of Of Fish - then the initials would be more in line...POOF, thats what all the women do when they find out the men are not Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson


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 Tigermoth

Joined: 9/10/2006
Msg: 35
Why are a lot of women shallow
Posted: 12/27/2006 8:37:34 AM
I had one pof'er on here who really wanted to meet me but never sent a pic for me this is concerning. not in the sense to judge him but it is to put a face to the name. I have however a few friends on here who decide not to show they're faces which I also respect. The thread has been done on either side of the coin far too many times in general we live in a shallow 'just add water' society. whilst some people really are shallow there are many who on initial contact use it as self defence. Too afraid of getting hurt again or stepping into the unknown. It is true we compare people to society status and looks far too much these days hence the ever increasing divorces because we either don't want to see or choose not to see the depths that may lay beneath or too impatient to give the other person a chance.

There is a saying about iceburgs (possibly a few jokes generated from this too)

you only get to see the tip it is the depths that lay below and not all breakers can dissuade. some will test the icey waters discovering the warmer parts.
Some capture shades of blue and green where faults are found or made
But iceburgs melt as do hearts
When the right one comes to aid.
For shallow could apply to you and me
When compared to the rolling secrets of the sea
 Rev.italianviper

Joined: 4/26/2007
Msg: 36
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Posted: 4/29/2007 11:57:51 PM
wouldnt classify them as shallow, if you stop and think about it, both sexes are about the same,physical attraction is a purely mental thing, much as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, thats why we have evolution, the very fabric of our beings are pre programmed to what we do or dont like in the opposite sex, primally, we look for traits we wish to pass on genetically, so with that being said, while some may be rude and not respond to messages, they are basically saying without using words,, your not good enough for my gene pool,
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 37
Why are a lot of women shallow
Posted: 5/27/2007 11:17:33 PM
Italianviper: Very well said.

What's funny here is that I bet most of the guys whining wouldn't date a woman they found unattractive. PS: "Unattractive" doesn't have to mean butt-ugly to all...just not attractive to YOU.
Yes, some PEOPLE are shallow. But to say it's ONLY women (Or all women) is ridiculously stupid.
It's usually the ones who NEED to blame it on something other than maybe themselves that bring out the "Waaaah, these people are shallow!" crap.
I have NEVER dated a man based on looks. I've based it on attraction, (who's going to date someone that does absolutely nothing for them?) yes, but that doesn't need to have anything to do with looks.
I think a lot of these posts are written with the assumption that each of the people writing them is offering up something so tempting, that women MUST be shallow not to give them a chance.
 GoodiesLD

Joined: 4/10/2007
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Posted: 6/11/2007 10:35:24 AM
My reason on why some woman are so shallow is because at most of their lives they have been told that they are so pretty, beautiful, and no one is or can be above them. So.....they figured that they are. Some females actually have some comments and other things goes to their heads and they actually believe that everyone have to be up to their standerds. Like the movie "shallow Hal" some people feel like they are soooooo sexy and can only get the best, like if you are less then a 10 then you are not worth it. I could not make anyone feel like they are not worth it, that is not me at all. No one else should feel like that either. Not everyone is like a model or shape like the 50 cent or anyone that have muscles, but some people actually think that way. The ones who act like that a lot will someday be alone, andthey won't like it. I just feel like you can't go throu your whole life thinking that's how life goes. And pretty soon everyone will hate you for that, and everyone that isn't do judgey will live happier then you. I am saying that because I am not a judging person. I do have a daughter and a boyfriend so I do have a family that I can come home to every night. He is not a body builder or anything and I am not thin. But that is ok, you know why? because I am not going to be alone and I don't have to feel like I have to change myself for anyone, not even for my boyfriend. I LOVE myself and I LOVE people no matter what you look like.
 raynedae

Joined: 6/30/2007
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Posted: 7/7/2007 8:17:12 PM
I have a bit of a problem with guys who don't post their picture because as often as not when I open their profile I find out that their wives don't understand them. It makes me very wary of men to don't post their pictures.

And I don't think you can paint only women as being shallow for ruling out men who don't post their pictures...there are an awful lot of "ordinary-looking" men out there who seem to think that any woman who isn't "HWP" isn't worth a messaging...and I've read horror stories on the forums from women who got cruel emails regarding their size or their looks. One woman got an email suggesting she try one of the BBW sites...what, women of size aren't allowed to mingle with the "athletic" or "average" guys? Talk about shallow!
 heARTeacher

Joined: 6/28/2007
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Posted: 7/13/2007 6:17:06 AM
I have to agree with you that looks do matter. It's not the magazine cover good looks that matter, it's the expression, pleasantness of features, genuiness, etc. that are attractive. If it were only about looks no marriage would last because of the way people change with age. When you love someone those changes become just part of the package and you participate in all of them. Looks do matter, however, in the initial attraction. If you look at a photo and think "Wow, look at that nose!" or "I couldn't kiss that mouth." then you won't follow up on it. If you think, on the other hand, that they have a great smile, a happy expression or a pleasant demeanor you might contact them, particularly if their bio is compatible with yours. The photos show viewers honesty "This is what I look like.", courage, accessability and usually some core values. If a photo is posted that is overtly sexual and someone looking is more reserved they might look, but would be unlikely to contact them. If a photo shows muscle cars and motorcycles and the viewer is into neither, they are unlikely to contact them. It's not simply a gender thing, it's about attraction. It happens in the animal world with plumage and calls. Why wouldn't it with humans? If you're uncomfortable with your photos and candid shots, go get some taken. When you don't post a photo it seems deceptive and somewhat shallow, as if you're hiding something or not ready to take a chance that you might appeal to someone. The only sensory experience you have with a web site is visual. Why not make the most of it? Why else would you be doing this?
 stuet56

Joined: 7/7/2007
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Posted: 7/15/2007 7:50:29 AM
Let's face it, both men and women on this site and everyother dating site are very shallow with it comes to who they would want to meet and date.. Its all about the look and personalities seem to be at the bottom of the list.. Both men and women who have been dumped in a previous relationship and have been alone for a while should start to wonder whether or not they are setting their standards to a level that doesn't exist. Or perhaps they don't need to be held and loved or helped in that special kind of way..

Besides, I find that most women on these dating sites are sending pictures that are years old and they haven't looked that way since their prime!!
 heARTeacher

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Posted: 7/18/2007 7:38:13 AM
stuet56 said, "Let's face it, both men and women on this site and everyother dating site are very shallow with it comes to who they would want to meet and date.. Its all about the look and personalities seem to be at the bottom of the list.."
Whoa, have you been having a tough day? Year? That's a pretty generalized stereotype. Did you ever search through a basket of strawberries to find the perfect one? It takes time and work. It has both beauty and flavor.
You get one chance to make a first impression.That's your profile.A lazy or negative profile is off putting. A photo that looks like someone took it themself with their camera pointed up their nostrils makes viewers question their standards, ethics or good taste. We've all taken bad photos, but why choose to share that here? Everyone needs to realize the camera adds 10 lbs, some don't photograph as well and it's going to change through time.
We've all seen the ones that look like they were taken through a fish eye lens. I like the profiles that show multiple photos in varied locations so that I can see what kinds of things the person likes to do. Are they "out there" or blending in? What are their interests? What does their facial expression say about them?
Your headline says "I heard you could get a cheap date here." Not a grand entrance for someone who professes to want a date at all. You're not a bad looking man so perhaps you need to re-examine your profile's content.
I don't plan to do this forever. I don't want to become jaded in my outlook. All my photos are within the last 6 months. Maybe there should be a rule of courtesy to show only recent photos or something. I didn't get dumped and I know what a really good relationship is like. If you don't have standards or caution you'd be setting yourself up for disappointment and hurt all the time. Only a masochist would do that.
 Peter52356

Joined: 5/3/2007
Msg: 43
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Posted: 7/18/2007 8:40:08 AM
You know, the simplest way to solve the problem here, is to post your picture and quite griping when people ask for a picture.

Think of it this way...imagine a bar, where everyone is wearing a paper sack on their head. That's what this dating site is like without posted pictures.

Nobody wants to date a person wearing a paper sack.

Yeah, personality plays a part, but if you are so self-conscious that you won't even put up a picture, then don't expect someone to even remotely consider dating you.

This has a lot to do with the cardinal rule of dating, be happy with yourself, and confident in yourself, and then you'll find someone. If you aren't happy with yourself, then you shouldn't even be looking and should be working on fixing yourself so you can be happy with yourself.

Also, don't even act like males don't judge females on their looks also, because I've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary.
 heARTeacher

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Posted: 7/18/2007 3:43:11 PM
Eldubu, I appreciate your voice of reason. Generalizations are usually a dodge from truth. Sweep over and it needn't be looked at too closely. Thanks.
 heARTeacher

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Posted: 7/18/2007 3:51:18 PM
ATVMike,

"A man sets himself up for headaches, heartbreak, self doubt, etc. by placing his worth on external sources, especially in the fickle mind of a woman."
Reverse the words man and woman. Equally valid. Anyone of any age attempting to find a relationship takes a risk. No body should place their worth on externals, but unfortunately some of that is unavoidable. Some are winners, some are losers and some are players or any other label you care to apply. The point is "some". Doesn't change the fact that anyone who places themselves out there publicly is vulnerable. Women suffer at the hands of men as much as men do women. I'm sorry if you've been hurt. Most of us have been at sometime or other. The mistake is to view it as permanent. Most learn and move on wiser.
If you really feel that way about women, why are you still looking? Celibacy is a lifestyle choice too.
 KissieAngeLips2

Joined: 6/15/2007
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Posted: 8/19/2007 2:07:36 PM
ahhhhhhhhh gezzzzzzzzzzz....dont go there....do not think for one minute looks is all that makes the world go around....it does not. Personality plus looks is nice....very nice....but alot that look wonderfull have the personality of a louse....and alot that are not so hot lookin have the same...soooo how do you think women are just in it for the looks does not make good sence to me.
 LameWire78

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Posted: 11/19/2007 10:24:48 AM
Right.. Men and women are under pressure to "Look Good"

Here's my thing. A woman or a man should have enough brain power to write or read a profile... I have 3 pictures and I have sent them upon request.

My latest email read like this: you sound like an interesting fella...may i see your pictures??
This woman obviously READ my profile.
I replied: "As requested" with some other text; and sent all three of my pics.

I'm pretty sure I could have and maybe should have added more to my email

I think it's roughly 50/50 when it comes to women being "shallow"/"trustworthy".

To the guy who had the analogy of think of it as a bar with people with paper sacks over their heads (if you don't have a pic in your profile), well maybe close without the smoky atmosphere (in my house that is), the bad/loud music, the obnoxious idiots, the guy trying to****block, the sloshed guy/girl you're trying to talk to OVER the loud music and obnoxious idiots...etcetera I won't expound on that.

I will say that I won't go into a bar and start talking like I do in my profile though and I"m sure most of the people wouldn't do that. Unless your profile is 4 lines long and is lame. That's what makes this "online-dating" deal a different experience.

"It's better to regret something you did, than something you didn't do..."
"Beauty of whatever kind, in its supreme development, invariably excites the sensitive soul to tears."
"Everyone's at war with different things--I'm at war with my own heart sometimes"
 LOVEHUGS

Joined: 1/17/2006
Msg: 48
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Posted: 12/9/2007 6:23:45 AM
To insure the survival of the species, God designed women to search out the strongest and most attractive of the male species - its this way in the wild with animals, and the same in humans - women are ONLY and I mean ONLY INTERESTED IN LOOKS

I have been searching for over 10-yrs now, and no matter what forum I use (CL, POF, Match.com, Udate.com, dinnerwithfriends.com, etc) - the routine is still the same, the only answer I ever get from women either myself answering their profile, or they answering mine is:

"send pic"
"do you have a pic ?"
"pic?"
"please send pic"
"Do you have a picture you could send" (This is the longest letter I have ever recieved)

Just ONCE - I would like to see more of a conversation, something nice would be

"Nice to meet you"
"How are you ?"

I am 6ft-4in tall, approx 230lbs - I do not have any warts, extra arms, or anything growing out of my head - but everytime a woman sees my picture; I get CLICK/DIALTONE right in the middle of the conversation

I dress nice, I am clean-shaven... its just that women do not see personality, intelligence, or anything else - they are pre-programmed at birth to see out the best looking man

I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT
 heavyiron

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Posted: 10/18/2008 2:31:36 PM
Most and when I say most I mean a good 70% of women do not give a damn about anything about a guy other than his looks, it has always been that way and will remain so until the end of humanity. You can have integrity and offer them security and honesty and commitment but you wont get through the door without good looks, It seems that what they want is a good looking guy who will treat them like crap and then complain that all men are dogs and that they cant find a decent man.
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