| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/30/2006 6:17:38 AM | About Fox News:
http://www.outfoxed.org/
About Bill O'Reilly:
http://www.slate.com/id/2087706/
"...O'Reilly wants specific individuals to shut up, and he names them. He would like all gays and lesbians to zip it—even though he's invited them on his show to talk about … homosexuality. He's even heaved this impolite language at entire nations, demanding they recuse themselves from the international conversation.
In the half-decade his top-rated show has been on the air, he's called for the muzzling of practically everybody. At the rate O'Reilly is going, he'll be the only person allowed to speak in a couple of years. Which, I suppose, is his master plan..."
http://www.counterpunch.org/gorman02122003.html
"...Perhaps even more indicative of O'Reilly's fascism, though, was his treatment on the February 4 edition of the "O'Reilly Factor," of Jeremy Glick, a signer of the Not In Our Name Statement of Conscience whose father perished in the World Trade Center attacks:
O'REILLY: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were surprised to find out than an American who lost his father in the World Trade Center attack had signed an anti-war advertisement that accused the USA itself of terrorism.
The offending passage read, "We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam."
With us now is Jeremy Glick, whose father, Barry, was a Port Authority worker at the Trade Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of the book "Another World is Possible."
I'm surprised you signed this. You were the only one of all of the families who signed...
JEREMY GLICK, FATHER DIED IN WORLD TRADE CENTER: Well, actually, that's not true.
O'REILLY: Who signed the advertisement?
GLICK: Peaceful Tomorrow, which represents 9/11 families, were also involved.
O'REILLY: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You're the only one who signed this advertisement.
GLICK: As an individual.
O'REILLY: Yes, as -- with your name. You were the only one. I was surprised, and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates the United States with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.
GLICK: Well, you say -- I remember earlier you said it was a moral equivalency, and it's actually a material equivalency. And just to back up for a second about your surprise, I'm actually shocked that you're surprised. If you think about it, our current president, who I feel and many feel is in this position illegitimately by neglecting the voices of Afro-Americans in the Florida coup, which, actually, somebody got impeached for during the Reconstruction period -- Our current president now inherited a legacy from his father and inherited a political legacy that's responsible for training militarily, economically, and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the alleged assassination and the murder of my father and countless of thousands of others. So I don't see why it's surprising...
O'REILLY: All right. Now let me stop you here. So...
GLICK: ... for you to think that I would come back and want to support...
O'REILLY: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why it's surprising.
GLICK: ... escalating...
O'REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal position in this society, which you're entitled to.
GLICK: It's marginal -- right.
O'REILLY: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see, even -- I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don't think your father would be approving of this.
GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was illegitimate.
O'REILLY: Maybe he did, but...
GLICK: I also didn't think that Bush...
O'REILLY: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a terrorist nation as you are.
GLICK: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.
O'REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed...
GLICK: What I'm saying is...
O'REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.
GLICK: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing and escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.
O'REILLY: All right. I don't want to...
GLICK: Maybe...
O'REILLY: I don't want to debate world politics with you.
GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.
O'REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.
GLICK: Well, OK.
O'REILLY: You're -- I want to...
GLICK: But you do care because you...
O'REILLY: No, no. Look...
GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care.
GLICK: ... to rationalize...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care...
GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.
O'REILLY: OK. That's a bunch...
GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.
O'REILLY: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families by their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever hope to do.
GLICK: OK.
O'REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting those people.
GLICK: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing me.
O'REILLY: And I'd never represent you. You know why?
GLICK: Why?
O'REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped view of this country.
GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel...
O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.
GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On September 14...
O'REILLY: No, no. Here's -- here's the...
GLICK: On September 14...
O'REILLY: Here's the record.
GLICK: OK.
O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.
GLICK: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people in Afghanistan...
O'REILLY: Who killed your father!
GLICK: The people in Afghanistan...
O'REILLY: Who killed your father.
GLICK: ... didn't kill my father.
O'REILLY: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.
GLICK: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?
O'REILLY: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!
GLICK: So what about George Bush?
O'REILLY: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.
GLICK: The director -- senior as director of the CIA.
O'REILLY: He had nothing to do with it.
GLICK: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen who were...
O'REILLY: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.
GLICK: Well, I hope she is.
O'REILLY: I hope your mother is not watching this because you -- that's it. I'm not going to say anymore.
GLICK: OK.
O'REILLY: In respect for your father...
GLICK: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?
O'REILLY: Shut up. Shut up.
GLICK: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.
O'REILLY: As respect -- as respect -- in respect for your father, who was a Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily by barbarians...
GLICK: By radical extremists who were trained by this government...
O'REILLY: Out of respect for him...
GLICK: ... not the people of America.
O'REILLY: ... I'm not going to...
GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.
O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out of respect for your father.
We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.
GLICK: That means we're done?
O'REILLY: We're done.
After going to commercial, Glick reports that O'Reilly threatened him. "Get out, get out of my studio before I tear you to ****ing pieces!" Beyond the fascist threat of physical violence, it is amusing to note that O'Reilly considers the studio to be "his." The public, in fact, owns the airwaves over which he broadcasts his fascist rantings. Furthermore, O'Reilly invited Glick on the show.
After giving in to O'Reilly's threat, Glick was approached by "nearly all" of the studio staff who apologized for O'Reilly's behavior, but encouraged Glick--who was, as he put it, "having a cup of coffee to calm his nerves" after the near-battery by O'Reilly--to leave before O'Reilly found out he was still there.
The next day, O'Reilly continued to slander Glick, citing letters that were supposedly running eight to one in praise of his bullying. "Glick was out of control and spewing hatred for this program and his country using vile propaganda. This is a no-spin zone, and wild ravings will be shut down quick," huffed O'Reilly, though Glick argues that the video of the exchange shows O'Reilly as the one "out of control." Glick dismisses this as a clear case of "projection" on O'Reilly's part. One letter writer commented that Glick's "condemnation of America and his stated sympathy for those who killed his father was truly appalling," though anyone who reads the transcript above can see this as an absolute lie.
While completely understanding Glick not wanting to be brutalized by the fascist O'Reilly, it would have be an interesting lawsuit against the bully of Fox News. Also, I would encourage Glick to pursue criminal charges against O'Reilly with the Manhattan District Attorney's office for violation of New York Penal Code Section 240.26, "Harassment in the second degree":
"A person is guilty of harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person:
1. He or she strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects such other person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same.." | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/30/2006 5:03:13 PM | | Let's send Bill O'Lielly and Rush Limpuke to JAIL where they belong! They both show the evils of conservatism that is tearing apart the fabric of this once proud country. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/30/2006 5:42:31 PM | What can I say, Bill O'Reilly's a D!ck. He's no real conservative, so rip on him all you want.
Buy the way, his show is not news, nor is it pushed as news. Its like an editorial page in a news paper, also not ment to be news reporting.
The news is only required to be one third correct to keep from being sued for labile anyway. This means that 2/3 of everything you read or watch on tv in pure BS. I used to work at a newspaper, I know of what I speak. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/30/2006 6:26:01 PM | | Bill "Oh please God when will I ever get my hand delivered invitation to the White House" O'Reilly. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/30/2006 10:12:17 PM | O'Reilly is just a sad, pathetic caricature of a right-wing zealot. Nobody really takes this pompous, self-important sack of sh*t seriously; he's only on the air for comedy relief. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/31/2006 8:44:27 AM | | No the real sad pathetic part is that many Americans DO take him seriously and believe the crap that oozes out of his mouth is gospel. He's an embarrassment. And the worst part of it all is that they believe he is neutral in all this. They buy it when he claims to be independant and not just another neo-con hatchet man. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/31/2006 10:55:07 AM |
BALROG SAID: "If our national security were in Democrats hands, we'd be having talks with Al Queda!"
Um...so you're saying that would be a BAD thing, right? | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 10/31/2006 9:21:08 PM | "Do you know how many Americans lost their lives on the beachs of Normandy on the first day?"
Please don't try to compare Normandy with the bullsh*t going on in Iraq. To do so shows a complete lack of respect for those who lost their lives for a truly noble cause. Normandy took place as part of an actual war, whereas the Iraq invasion is, essentially, an economic exercise, the main purpose of which is to help boost shareholder profits by insuring a supply of cheap oil. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 4:34:08 AM | | Bill OReilly cried because Oprah was not putting him on show to promote his new book and than dumb Oprah caved in . Last thing anyone should do is cater to this legend in his own mind piece of crap .He is nothing but hot air that is not even all that intelligent . | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 7:35:16 AM | O'reilly's show is banned in Canada anyway unless
you specially order it. The CRTC made sure there's no offensive
material on the air.
>> yes because banning free speech is such a good idea. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 7:57:59 AM | | So if you can get special order then it's not really banned is it? I don't pay to get HBO at my house........doesn't make it banned. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 8:31:34 AM | for someone who is biased(O`reilly)...I will give Bill some credit where credit is due...
He said he did not think Kerry was intentionally bashing slodiers...he even said that this whole Kerry thing was overblown.... | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 8:46:36 AM | 'reilly's show is banned in Canada anyway unless
you specially order it. The CRTC made sure there's no offensive
material on the air.
>> yes because banning free speech is such a good idea.
Too funny!
The application was approved, ....twice, ....FOX wasn't involved in either application.
They also weren't interested in meeting Canadian Broadcasting Standards...
Do you get free cable TV and HBO in the US as a right because of the first amendment ?
Oh man, ...I remember when "FOX News is banned!" was all the rage with the uninformed.
You could give them links to the official CRTC pages and they still wouldn't clue in.
BTW, do you know who gets the last say in what the CRTC mandates?
....it ain't the government.
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 10:14:04 PM | "O'reilly's show is banned in Canada anyway... "
WRONG.
"The CRTC made sure there's no offensive
material on the air."
Have you watched any TV in Canada lately?!? | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/2/2006 10:34:23 PM | It is AMAZING the lies that get told on Fox. I don't know how anyone can stand to watch it
Because its like driving by a car wreck. We slow down to look because we can't stop ourselves, regardless of how bad it may be.
I know people who are so far left that they make Howard Dean and Barbara Boxer look like Pat Robertson and you know what? They watch Fox News more than anything else because they need something to react to, and Fox feeds it to em by the shovel
Its hard to really react in a visceral, blood boiling way to something you agree with. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 4:49:05 AM | | Paddy I understand that psychology and I purposely do not watch because of it . Last thing I want to do is help out a network that I totally disagree with. I hate the NY Yankees and I will never watch them no matter who they play for the same reason . I sure as hell wont watch or listen to Bill O'Reilly who whines like a child . | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 1:15:47 PM | | In my humble opinion, Mr. O'Reilly (a brilliant and caring man in my humble opinion) exercised tremendous restraint in dealing with that Glick character. He amazes me. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 7:33:35 PM | "Let's send Bill O'Lielly and Rush Limpuke to JAIL where they belong! They both show the evils of conservatism that is tearing apart the fabric of this once proud country."
Yes ban free speech! Anyone who is not a democrat should be locked up! this sort of thing always reminds me that Hitler was indeed a socialist. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 9:32:51 PM |
Yes ban free speech!
yes, O'Reilly's all for the patriot act and he's forever telling people to "shut up".
Anyone who is not a democrat should be locked up!
The democrats aren't locking people up in secret prisons outside the US on "suspicion".... but the Bush administration is...
this sort of thing always reminds me that Hitler was indeed a socialist.
Your comment reminds me that there were ties between the Bush family and Hitler going all the way back to 1924:
http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_2 | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 9:50:46 PM | "In my humble opinion, Mr. O'Reilly (a brilliant and caring man in my humble opinion) exercised tremendous restraint in dealing with that Glick character. He amazes me."
Please, please, PLEASE tell us that you were being sarcastic!!!!! The alternative is just too sad and horrible to imagine!!!! | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 10:13:52 PM | Paddy I understand that psychology and I purposely do not watch because of it . Last thing I want to do is help out a network that I totally disagree with. I hate the NY Yankees and I will never watch them no matter who they play for the same reason . I sure as hell wont watch or listen to Bill O'Reilly who whines like a child
You seem to be the exception. Cause people who claim to despise and not watch, sure do know alot about what they do.
I find that just sort of, kind of, funny
But thats just me. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/5/2006 10:54:01 PM | | This guy is frightening because he believes everything he says. And further, there are other people who believe him too. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/6/2006 5:53:16 AM | Your comment reminds me that there were ties between the Bush family and Hitler going all the way back to 1924:
yeah there were. and there were also ties with the kennedys. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/6/2006 5:56:29 AM | | anyway the point being, the idea of putting bill o'riely in jail is just a tad extreme don't you think? not to mention it would be a waste of tax money. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 11/6/2006 6:08:00 AM | I don't think O'Reilly should be put in jail, but I do think that for being such a hypocrite, any person who values democracy and free speech with at least half a brain shouldn't take him seriously unless he greatly changes his tune. He's a clown.
On the other hand, people who are wrong have a right to be heard also. If it wasn't for people giving others the opportunity to prove them wrong, there would be no such thing as science and civilization.
"The truth is illuminated through it's collision with error."-Benjamin Disraeli
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