| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/28/2007 7:00:14 PM | After reading O'Reilly's book the Culture Warrior and now reading these posts on here, I have to say everything he said in his book about the SP's (secular progressives) and Traditionalists in a war, is spot on correct.
But people will believe what they want. You can't have a discussion with anyone who is "dug in" on the extreme left or right. But the reality is, that being a SP or a Traditionalist has nothing to do with party lines. It is true that there are more Dem's in the SP movement but that does not mean that all Dems are. Nor does it mean that all Repubs are Traditionalists.
It really should be no big surprise to everyone who watches or reads daily news that almost all of it (both T.V. and print) leans almost entirely left. With CBS leading the pack on network news and CNN on cable. At least Fox gives news to people who would like more than one opinion.
If you don't like Fox news, then just don't watch it. Your T.V. shoulld have more than one cable channel. It's a fact that almost all the T.V. news leans to the left. So there is no shortage of channels to chose from.
I will say for the forum record, that I don't agree with O'Reilly all the time. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I do like the fact that he is bringing this cultural war to the screen though. I for one am tired of the wannabe socialists screaming about their agenda with out anyone willing to call them out on it.
I think the only reason people on the extreme left call O'Reilly a "extreme conservative" is that he calls out the SP movement. It certainly can't be because he only has Repubs on his show or his side. Geez, most of the big shots from BOTH sides HATE him. He is the most hated news personality out there, without a doubt.
Why does he have huge ratings? I dunno, I guess people must watch him. Although I feel that he has somewhat of the "Howard Stern" syndrome. Alot of people like him, so they watch him. Some people like him sometimes, so they watch. And alot of people HATE him, so they watch him. I find, that the more someone hates O'Reilly the more they can tell me about the nightly topics on his show.
All that being said. I think that FOX is more balanced than any of the other News channels. Are they perfect? HELL, NO! But what channel is? | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/28/2007 8:33:23 PM |
It's a fact that almost all the T.V. news leans to the left.
If it is a fact, then you should have an easy time showing the proof of this.
All that being said. I think that FOX is more balanced than any of the other News channels.
Then please present examples of its fair coverage of the liberal point of view, as well as critical coverage of the Bush administration. | |
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Posted: 1/28/2007 9:35:23 PM | Thats exactly what it is.
What proof does one need other than to watch/read the news everday? This should not be so hard to realize. Maybe some people do not want to see what is going on. Maybe some people just don't care.
Here's the better question? What News channel(print or T.V.) leans to the right?
Could you at least, this time tell me what News channel is more balanced?
Are you so completely so "dug in" to your "side" that you close off all ideas from others?
You came back with this line.
Then please present examples of its fair coverage of the liberal point of view, as well as critical coverage of the Bush administration.
I never even brought up the Bush administration. Not even once! So why is that an issue now?
BTW, I am not a Bush fan! | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/29/2007 5:28:49 AM |
Here's the better question? What News channel(print or T.V.) leans to the right?
Fox. There are others, but Fox News is the poster child of far right views.
Could you at least, this time tell me what News channel is more balanced?
In North America, every single one of the mainstream ones.
I never even brought up the Bush administration. Not even once! So why is that an issue now?
Bill O'Reilly's and Fox's obvious favortism of the Bush administration is the basis of this thread.
Now that I've answered your questions, are you willing to answer mine? I suspect you aren't. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/29/2007 5:43:39 AM | | i think he was wanting an example BESIDES fox. and are you gonna honestly say that msnbc is more balanced and not left leaning? as i said in another thread, geraldo, alan colmes, juan williams, greta van susteren, bob beckel and a host of others are heard on fox. btw, dick cheney REFUSES to go on oreilly's show. why would he refuse if oreilly loves the admin so much? | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/29/2007 5:56:15 AM |
i think he was wanting an example BESIDES fox. and are you gonna honestly say that msnbc is more balanced and not left leaning?
Yes.
as i said in another thread, geraldo, alan colmes, juan williams, greta van susteren, bob beckel and a host of others are heard on fox.
And as I've stated in another thread, I've never seen Geraldo on Fox doing anything but agreeing with O'Reilly's comments, Alan Colmes is ineffectual, and I can't find anything for your other people to indicate what are their political preferences.
btw,****cheney REFUSES to go on oreilly's show. why would he refuse if oreilly loves the admin so much?
I don't know. Professional rivalry? Plausible deniability? | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 1/29/2007 5:59:14 AM | so you want to tell me that katie couric, dan rather, keith olbermann, walter cronkite, peter jennings, etc. do not have/had any political leanings that may have affected their broadcasts? if you think that, i guess i have nothing for you. just because you might agree w/ those people does not mean they are fair. it just means that you agree with them.
and btw- if colmes is so ineffectual, why does he have the most successful liberal radio show on the air today? don't say it is because of hannity, because he isnt on the radio show | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 6:08:46 AM |
so you want to tell me that katie couric, dan rather, keith olbermann, walter cronkite, peter jennings, etc. do not have/had any political leanings that may have affected their broadcasts?
I'm not going to tell you that. Are you going to tell me that Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Pat Buchanan, Alan Keyes, Frank Luntz, Michael Savage and Tucker Carlson, all of whom have hosted shows on MSNBC, don't have any political leanings that may have affected their broadcasts?
and btw- if colmes is so ineffectual, why does he have the most successful liberal radio show on the air today? don't say it is because of hannity, because he isnt on the radio show
Having never listened to Colmes' radio show, I cannot say if it is good, or successful. However, on Fox, he is definitely ineffectual. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 6:16:08 AM | his radio show is on the FOX NEWS RADIO CHANNEL! it is the number one liberal radio show! that is success.
anyway, obviously we have been around on that subject before, squared. i have a question for you, though. what do you think about o'reilly's crusade to pass jessica's law as well as holding the judges accountable for the ridiculous sentences that they give to child rapists (ie. the vermont judge Cashman who sentenced said rapists to 60 days)? would you at least give him credit for that? | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 10:27:11 AM | his radio show is on the FOX NEWS RADIO CHANNEL! it is the number one liberal radio show! that is success.
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Please give a source for this...
And I am still waiting for the source of the 3 am ratings........
BOR only has 2 million fans .....the reason Shooter wont go on that show......
The numbers are cooked to get his book sales in the top ten. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 4:43:26 PM |
his radio show is on the FOX NEWS RADIO CHANNEL! it is the number one liberal radio show! that is success.
That's nice. Even if true, though, it still doesn't change the fact that he is ineffectual.
would you at least give him credit for that?
Provided that is an accurate description of his actions, then yes, I will give him credit for that. Doing a few things right, however, does not give him a free pass for all the things he says and does on his show. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 4:56:20 PM | Wow! 8 pages on a subject matter about a show aired in America.
Get over it folks. We love our Country and the fact that this show, Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc. etc. etc. etc. can be aired here and WE can make up our own minds what to watch or not.
America....Gotta Luv It!!!!   | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 5:03:57 PM | | Mr. O'Reilly, I'm sure, appreciates your open mind in giving him credit for his crusade against child abuse. If you could bear to watch yourself (and maintain an open mind to discussions thereon even if you disagree) you could comment directly on his good deeds (or otherwuse in your opinion), and there are many. He rarely mentions it, but when accused of profiting from sale of his personal items, he lets it be known that all such profits go to charity. He is actually a crusader for the regular guy although that's not necessarily the topic of every show. If you don't watch yourself, all you have to go on are opinions of others. Not that I am asking you to, just saying . . . | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 5:20:12 PM | | bobo- i suck at the internet. i can not find any site that will run down the ratings. BUT your saying bill oreilly has only 2 million fans is clearly incorrect. according to an anti-oreilly site, bill averaged 2,094,000 viewers for last december. now that is for his early show. many people, like me, do not watch the early show. they wait for the 10 pm (central) or 3 am broadcast. i can not give any figures because i can not find them. all i find are bash oreilly sites. but for all the sites that get excited about his ratings decrease, could these extra shows be the result? i do not know when they started the encore shows, so they are perhaps unrelated. anyway, while you are insinuating i am lying by what i say is the popularity of his show, you yourself clearly give inaccurate info. 2 million is only for the early show. i am sure many others like me want to watch shows like "the office" early and oreilly later. and you think cheney wont go on because the show is not popular? then why has george bush? | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 7:07:29 PM | you are insinuating i am lying by what i say is the popularity of his show, you yourself clearly give inaccurate info.
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No I am not insinuating you are.
BOR says he has 6 million.......He is a liar. I will stand by the number 2 million and a 2.2 share
with 546k 27-52 years old for viewers.
His ratings are dropping.
GWB went on all the shows. Shooter manages his spin. This is information that has come out in the Libby trial. He is the spin master, there is no reasoon for him to go to a BOR, too small.
Meet the Press, and Rush dwarf BOR. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 9:36:37 PM | I suspect I will.
***I asked: Here's the better question? What News channel(print or T.V.) leans to the right?
The answer seems to be:
Fox. There are others, but Fox News is the poster child of far right views.
The far right view? Are you even serious? All of the news is skewed, to say the least. But I'll go with the UCLA, Berkeley study. The results were that the only right leaning news show was Brit Hume.
BTW, why are people so freaked out because of a different view? Your personal opinion is not always the best one for our country.
***I asked: Could you at least, this time tell me what News channel is more balanced?
The answer:
In North America, every single one of the mainstream ones.
You cannot really believe that can you? None of them are. If you believe that all of the news in North America is more balanced than Fox. Then it's obvious that you like what you see on "every single one of the mainstream ones" and do not require any views other than what you would like to think is the proper view. Again, almost ALL of the News (be it print or T.V.) is slanted left.
The difference is that I like to see more than one side of any situation. That way I can try to be more informed about the choices that I make. I know that there are many people on the right that I can't stand and many on the left I can't stand. For me, I need to see the other side of any situation before I can decide where my discision stands on any particular subject.
If you wat to call me out for the crime of trying to stay informed, then so be it.
***I stated:I never even brought up the Bush administration. Not even once! So why is that an issue now?
The answer was:
Bill O'Reilly's and Fox's obvious favortism of the Bush administration is the basis of this thread.
Just because Fox doesn't keep up with the "We all hate Bush" syndrome certainly does not mean they give "obvious favortism". They do try to give more than one side though. They aren't perfect. No news channel is! That is why people that care to see whats going on watches more than one T.V. News program and reads more print News.
Although I do have to say that the latter is really only good for the crossword and the comics, since the print news is "yesterdays news" now. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 2/7/2007 10:02:37 AM | If you believe word for word of MSN or NBC then u must be a liberal..............those shows r SO bias n social progressives and do not care for the back bone of this country as it was founded with great honor and courage................I was sadly disappointed in the last election and afraid the stupidity of the American people will be reflected in the next election.
Americans want the rainbow n unicorn life.............well guess what.............this country was not founded on that ...........also the ones that spout i don't care what the govt or anyone does as long as it doesn't mess with me............sorry u are showing your ignorance!!!
Once again...................I ask all to research,get a satellite radio............one not controlled by social progressives.............stop listening to NBC and MSN news...........write your political leaders be a voice...........be a "we the people" and make it be known............
Atleast Bill Oreilly makes his voice heard ! | |
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Posted: 2/7/2007 10:04:49 AM | | i prefer the Patriot channel on suiris radio n........MIke Church is a hoot | |
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Posted: 2/7/2007 10:27:21 AM | "what do you think about o'reilly's crusade to pass jessica's law as well as holding the judges accountable for the ridiculous sentences that they give to child rapists (ie. the vermont judge Cashman who sentenced said rapists to 60 days)? would you at least give him credit for that?"
Interesting that you would use BOR's "crusade" re: child rapists.
"In January 2007, O'Reilly on The O'Reilly Factor stated that a Missouri pre-teen, Shawn Hornbeck, who was abducted and held prisoner for four years by an alleged child molester had "liked ... his circumstances" and had "a lot more fun" than with "his old parents"."
Hmmmmm....does that sound like an advocate for child rape/molestation victims.
from associatedcontent.com:
"41-year-old pizzeria manger, Mike Devlin, has already pleaded not guilty to kidnapping charges he faces in Washington and Franklin counties.
Yet, Prosecutor Robert McCulloch announced at a news conference Monday that Devlin faces 71 counts in St. Louis County. The charges pertain to kidnapping, restraining victims and forcible sodomy. The charges were formed based on interviews with Devlin himself, and his victims, McCulloch said."
So.....BOR thinks that this kid had more fun with this man now charged, along with kidnapping, with multiple counts of forcible sodomy. Real advocate for kids here. And, now not only will BOR not apologize for this diarreha of the mouth...he is scheduled to be the speaker at a local chapter of...get this...the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Regardless of politcal affiliation....anyone who defends this slug should be ashamed of themselves. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 2/9/2007 3:23:22 PM | Al Fraken lied when he said Airhead America was not going bankrupt.
Days later-guess what? | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 11:02:22 AM | If to you every news broadcast in the world but your precious fox is liberal leaning and has a bias. Perhaps the problem isn't that the medias perspective is offbase? Maybe it's you.
Maybe reality has a left wing bias. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 7:37:40 PM | I don't watch O'Reilly's show, but I have caught clips from youtube. There is a lot of bad stuff out there of him. I think the worst I saw was when the kid that lost family in the WTC on 911 was on his show and O'Reilly told him to "shut up". Seems to be a theme with Mr. O'Reilly, that when he is out-smarted or has no good reply, he just tells the other person to "shut up". He reminds me of the dumb bully that everyone has in their high school.
I looked up other clips that fans of O'Reilly posted to try to get a balanced view, but even those clips pretty much just show him pandering to the Conservative line. I think any non-partisan bystander would consider him a waste of air time. | |
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Posted: 2/18/2007 8:41:19 PM | I finally watched the show and was absolutely shocked at how unbiased it is. The air time seemed pretty well evenly split between giving the libs their slot and the cons. theirs. To say otherwise is pretty stupid since it's right there in front of one's eyes to watch.
I wish we had the means to insert an entire episode right here in a post. Then, those who say it totally leans to the right, would have nothing to back up their claims. | |
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| For You Bill O'Reilly Fans
Posted: 2/19/2007 4:11:39 AM | That's because you can't tell the difference between your own bias, and unbiased.
Bill O'Reilly shuts the mike off on people who are beating him in arguements, he outright lies on his show. (this is well documented) http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/billoreilly finally he gets fox security to harass people who call in... to his call in radio show. | |
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