| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/3/2005 8:25:21 PM |
eagleeye: "What is the purpose of your existance?"
That's one of the greatest questions of all time - unfortunately it doesn't have an answer. It has, however severe repercussions.
So far the answers given here have been great suggestions on how to live a good life, not answers for purpose of our existence. Here's the crux of my argument:
• The human psyche needs a sense of purpose.
• There isn't an evident sense of purpose for life.
• The brain fills in that void with God.
It's been shown that if people think that they're doing good or that their hard work will be rewarded, then they can put up with incredible hardship - it's when people lose hope that they give up. Over time, the humans that had a powerful self-preservation instinct did better than those who didn't. The self-preservation instinct is tied in with one's ego and a feeling that one's life is important, that they're doing good work, and that their work will be rewarded. Obviously, hard work isn't always quickly rewarded, if at all. The people who will 'succeed' are the ones who can delay their gratification, possibly all the way until the afterlife.
The whole of the rest of people's lives are based upon there being a reason for everything they do. It's seems unconscionable that something as important as one's consciousness is just a fluke of nature, although the facts don't rule that out. In fact, in an infinite universe, it's actually likely that higher life must form - but that's just probability, biology and infinity talking.
Personally, I'm dead serious in saying that I'd instantly trade spots with anyone who believes in a god or an afterlife. Straight across - no questions asked or conditions attached. I don't care what religion it is, or what their station in life is, only that they truly believed. Either that or I'd trade with someone who is totally self-absorbed and doesn't think of the meaning of life.
The biggest favour anyone could do for me would be to convince me of the existence of a god or convince me to live without searching for a purpose to life. I'm not just being stubborn or antagonistic in saying that it won't happen. I need proof. I need logic. I'm all over causality - I think that's the problem.
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/3/2005 8:39:50 PM | GE&H; Your post makes a lot of sense to me, and I totally understnad where you are coming from, because I too ponder ALL the time, the purpose of life...it is almost to the point of annoyance.
devilrider; what if one doesnt have children? What is thier purpose then? What if one feels they have no future, or thier future has been ripped from them? | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/4/2005 11:07:24 AM | Was the Birds or any other creature created in God's image?
God has many Gifts for aal and every one it is ones will that does not allow one to accept these gifts. They are there, just have to accept them they are free gifts, of Love.
God does not bring evil he does not have any part of it. So your aware it is the other not God. God is Love all love and it is one's inhibitions that do not allow one to experience it. A choice that is made results in the trivial life aspects.
God take it as you wish J but I think you are quite aware of God in the sense that is portrayed.
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/4/2005 11:55:31 AM | Hi eagleeye;
To be here is enough, this means you have purpose. I believe we are all born for a reason; it wouldn't make any kind of sense to be born without. What's the purpose? It depends who you are. We are all born for much more than just to copulate for the sake of keeping the human race going. Childless men and women have other qualities that are just as important as those that have them. They are no less thought of, no less loved and no less part of the one who created us. Being that we are all related and equal we should learn to love one another more. That way the purpose of our existence will be revealed. It sounds simple but I truly believe this. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/4/2005 12:07:45 PM | "we are born to procreate that simple those who do not are living without purpose."
YIKES!
My comments on the folly of trying to infuse purpose into the universe notwithstanding- YIKES! You really believe that if you don't produce offspring, you have no purpose? There are some who belive that contributing to society through the arts or sciences is at least as if not more purposeful than procreating. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/4/2005 12:23:50 PM | Now now wonka, maybe I procreated and gave birth to the next Nationally reknown scientist. LOL
devil, thinking you have some issues. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/4/2005 4:23:50 PM | skypoetone: "I believe we are all born for a reason; it wouldn't make any kind of sense to be born without."
That's my point: one feels the gap where the purpose should be, then part of the brain fills in a spiritual being to placate the sense of indeterminate loneliness. Wishing that something exists does not make it exist. Also, because there's no proof available, the answer has to formed such that it pushes back the burden of proof until after death where "the purpose of our existence will be revealed."
In no other important venture would you accept the burden of proof become available after the fact. Would you invest your life savings with an institution that wasn't transparent in their dealings and just promised to give you the money after you'd retired? And that's only money.
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/5/2005 5:13:23 AM | | If I make one person happy during the day, then I've done my job. If not and I wake up the next day, I will have my another chance to make either that same person or someone else happy. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/5/2005 4:45:57 PM | My thoughts dwell on this question, A whole lot. I ponder endlessly as to why I am here, and what I'll accomplish, and what purpose I serve by existing. Thus far I have been unable to answer any of them. But in due time I hope I do, I know that some of them will not be known until I pass on, but I am willing to wait to find out on those ones. I just know that however I live my life, I plan on living it to the fullest so the answers to lifes little questions will be answered in the longrun in a positive light.
As for everyone existing as a whole...We're all here to help one another, and gain knowledge from the different people we meet, in the longrun the knowledge we gain will cure epidemics, feed the starving, and clothe the naked, not to mention provide guidence for those in need of it. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/5/2005 6:22:54 PM | What a nice thought Venomous, wouldn't that be great if everyone thought like that? If everyone thought we were here to help one another.... | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/5/2005 10:05:44 PM | | Didn't this thread get done already? The purpose of exsistant is to worship the Lord our God with all our heart, all our mind and all our soul. The more we do that...the closer we come to understanding. | |
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| What is the purpose of our existence?
Posted: 10/6/2005 4:58:23 AM | hi brilliantlight,
"Do unto others as you have them do unto you." If we could take this one message Jesus gave us and live by it, then we would all live in peace. | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 5:06:51 AM | | Eagle... funny as it seems we are all God's. Take any writer; authors are creating characters, situations and plots... they know how the story is going to pan out, what the ending will be. Then I ask myself a very important question.... if I was writing a book or a series of books, would I trust others to edit my work without having it monitored? Did God? | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 8:42:41 AM | | REALLY good point Skypoetone, take it one step further, some believe that we all create our own realities within the context of the illusion, which is our world. If this is so, we are all responsible for everything that happens to us, as individuals and as a group. Some are better at manifesting good things into their lives, and some are better at manifesting not so good things. This does not imply that there isn't a God, he set up the ground rules and the illusion itself. Probably does "monitor" it!!! | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 6:06:48 PM | I have heard people say that often....read the bible and ask God to use it to speak to you....well I have....and God told me it is false...written by men....
So how come noone believes me? | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 7:30:28 PM | | Mankind/Womankind should put the men responsible where they belong, in the spiritual dock. Time to think about how we can make sense of something Christ died to give us. While people argue this point there won't be any real comfort, whomever you think you are. There are too many issues at stake and not enough empathy in debate | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 7:33:49 PM | at eagle
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and God told me it is false...written by men....
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Psssst!.......this ain't God talking to ya!!!.................its Satan!!........do not believe it (he is the author of all lies!) | |
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| What is The purpose of our existance?
Posted: 10/6/2005 7:37:45 PM | | Why is everything that Christians disagree with Satans fault ? Is God not the creator of all ? If so, He created Satan. If not, then maybe Satan created God....that may explain why Christians are so closed minded....Satan doesn't want you to think. If man created evil, then when we choose not to believe, we have nothing to worry about. | |
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