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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/22/2006 12:26:19 AM | | when i got pregnant, my boyfriend at the time, he didnt want me to have the baby, and tryed vey hard to convince me to get rid of it, i almost did, but i realized it went against everything i believed in, i felt terrible after i thought i might have got rid of it! but anyways, i decided that if he wants to be apart of his childs life then he can and if he doesnt want to then he doesnt have to. if he chooses to be apart of his sons life then i think he should have to pay child support, he unfortunately has not yet and our son is almost 2 months old, he has suggested child support but has not acted! and if he doesn't pay soon i will comment that this is his son, and if he wants to take part in it then he should help pay for diapers, cause they arent cheep! other wise i will tell him to stop coming around! i dont want to have to do that but if it comes down to it i will! | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/23/2006 10:45:00 PM | I wonder how many women ignore the guys wishes and get pregnant and refuse put the child up for adoption just to receive child support so they can play and not have to work.
Then afterwards, I wonder how many of the same women find that the child support is not enough to let them live in the style they hoped.
Oh well, no one ever said that all women are smart. Just like some guys there are always a few gals that make dumb choices. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/24/2006 1:47:59 AM | I agree with the lady above "abortion is not birth control" so true. I don't have any respect for females who go against the partners wishes and go ahead with the abortion. It may be the females body but its both parties child. Its not fair that when it all comes down to it the potential father really has no say. I don't particularly agree with abortions in any case unless for medical or reasons beyond our control. A close friend of mine went through with one and I saw what it done to her psycologically, I dont think many females considering termination really think of the aftermath. She was in and out of hospital for the next 3 years-it totally messed her up. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/24/2006 1:51:14 AM | | I just read 'mytwocentsworth's comment and I have to say that I couldnt disagree more! It takes two to tango, whether he wants rights to the child or not, he was there for the party and he knew what the consequences would be. You cant escape being the father of a child you helped bring into the world, rights or no rights. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/24/2006 9:49:58 AM | Donwilliams, you are getting on my nerves with the most dumb founded comments you make. Call me a **** if you may....Wake up, women over populate the world. You must be a "I am MAN, you are woman, what says I go or I will knock your teeth out! It takes two to concieve a child, unless you feel it is all the woman's fault that she in the first place got pregnant. One word from the wise to the niave one (being you) child support is to cover healthcare or daycare. Get it now DORK???? No one, including single fathers recieving child support could live off of it for a purposefull life style. It is ment to help raising the child. What planet are you from? 2006 Buddy, not 1932. This guy needs | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/24/2006 10:07:13 AM | | I have to agree Rebecca. This is the number one reason I never went for one night stands. Any child of mine will without a doubt have me in their life. I am very careful about those I consider having in my life forever. There are so many threads about deadbeat moms and dads I can't see how one would think an easy life and profit would be a goal for anyone. Anyone I choose to have sex with is without a doubt, someone I want to have a child with. You do know Don sex is the number one cause of pregnancy. You might want to start thinking with a different head if your so concerned about evil women trapping you. YIKES! | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/24/2006 10:09:31 AM | Although I'm a guy I think you have every right to seek support. Any guy with an IQ over 70 knows the possible consequence of sexual relations with a woman is pregnancy regardless of any birth control that was used. Yes I think it's absolutely fair even if she intentionally became pregnant and lied about birth control. Fact is you did the deed knowing the possible outcome. As far as choosing not to terminate that is solely at the discretion of the woman, it is after all her body and her choice. As much as it would destroy me knowing that the life of a child of mine could be terminated through abortion, I still feel I have no right to subject a woman to carry a child to term. I would gladly offer to take full custody of the child if she did not want to have it. But still do think the rights as a father do not come into play until after the child is born. As much as I would never consider abortion as a solution, I feel strongly that a womans rights where this is concerned should not be encroached upon for any reason. This is definitely one of those slippery slopes we really need not go down.
One thing that I want to make clear is this unwanted pregnancy crap. If you have sex you know the possible outcome. You would have to be a truly, truly stupid individual to think that it can't happen at any time. Yes you might get lucky a hundred times, and you might wear three condoms every time, it doesn't mean a damn thing. It is still possible and you made the choice to take this chance.
I was going to put my opinion here, but since the quoted post says everything I would have said, (except for the being a guy part, lol) I'll save myself the typing time and say this ...... ^ exactly. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/25/2006 6:03:46 AM | Donwilliams, you are getting on my nerves with the most dumb founded comments you make. You have the right to your opinions, erroneous though they may be, and I have the right to state facts. Actually, your statements are currently in vogue while mine are not, but that’s just a temporary aberration. You can’t fool Mother Nature very long. Something will happen to restore things to natural state of affairs—war, social upheaval, or men just getting fed-up and using their overwhelming strength, cunning, and predatory nature. In any event, it will not be pleasant. Men may protect women and concede to women most of their power for several generations. However, in the final analysis, men do have the power. Annoy us too much and we will take it back. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/25/2006 6:59:40 AM | | Donwilliams.... you make me laugh. You say 'Men may protect women and concede to women most of their power for several generations'. I think that's a hoot. If anything women have stood back and witnessed men make mistake after mistake. Men have started wars, caused poverty, homelessness and let children go hungry. If anything, we let you have the power too long. It's only the beginning of women standing up for what is right and taking power upon themselves. I don't think you've even begun to see the power women truly have. So, return to your fairytale world. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/25/2006 12:10:03 PM | | Ok, I want to express my opinion on your opinion. I'm pro-life. Now if a man doesn't want a child, he has the right to give up he's rights totally without being sued for child support. And if a man doesn't want children all together he can have a vasetomy done. I have children and don't expect the father to help out, I take care of my own by CHOICE. Adoption is another alternative. I believe abortion is wrong, your killing a baby truely. Baby's heart beats after 18 days of conception. And by then you don't even know your pregnant. There are many alternative to that which no one is right or wrong solely based on your situation. But I stand by PRO LIFE. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 2/25/2006 1:39:50 PM | OK I'll suck it up and post... Just have to have my say so to speak... darkpoetess is a hero in my eyes and woman of true convictions... I feel pretty much the same as she does. I would never give up my rights to my child, I did not and have 3, but to paraphrase if I may my X already had 3 children and the father never had a choice she simply kept them away and he never had the funds to fight to see them of pay any child support thus he never sees them... I think that is wrong too For women that do as my X does that is truly wrong in my eyes and is one reason why I did not reply to this post as I felt prejudice about the thread... Then you have kymbie who states and I quote
if he didn't want to take that chance i guess he shouda wrapped it before he stuck it Here is a woman who does not take equal blame and will try to hang the man when she too could have taken precautions and did not so STICK IT TO THE GUY as she says in not so many words... Which of the two women would you want to bare your children? I dare say I did not need to ask that question....  | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 3/1/2006 9:22:03 PM |
Then you have kymbie who states and I quote
if he didn't want to take that chance i guess he shouda wrapped it before he stuck it
Here is a woman who does not take equal blame and will try to hang the man when she too could have taken precautions
Okay ... hypothetical sitaution ... a woman uses birth control pills. She has sex with her b/f, who chooses not to use a condom, because hey, she's on the pill! She then gets pregnant, because we all know that no form of birth control is foolproof.
So, with the above situation, isn't it safe to say HE didn't take precautions, although she did?
Put simply ... the man involved should take precautions upon himself, use a condom .. regardless of whether or not she's using birth control. Otherwise, he is taking a chance. | |
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| How about if you got prego and went against his wishes to terminate/put up for adoption? Posted: 3/1/2006 9:54:37 PM | ok...this one is for mr.thinks i'm a gold digger sticking all the blame on the men
1- my daughters dad and i were engaged and trying to have a baby....he moved to a different province and 2 weeks later i found out i was 6 weeks pregnant...he has showed no intrest in me or my child since then
2- my sons dad...i was on the pill and he chose not to wrap it...i was not negligent...took my pills properly...and still conceived a child...who was negligent...i guess he shoulda wrapped it
3- neither one of these men see my children ....have made any attempts to see my children...nor do they pay me a single solitary cent
i dont need their filthy money...i have 2 beautiful children..and am very rich within my soul for being so blessed with them in my life.
so tell me now .....how is it that i'm sticking it to the man and taking them for all they are worth? | |
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