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Posted: 10/15/2007 9:04:16 AM | I get what you are saying Simple single and Edjoe...but things have happened to these people...who says they didn't love the person...and they contracted a disease...
Can you fall in love right away....come on be real!
is all I'm saying....fact of the matter is people want to be together ...and something horrible can come between them...something one partner may not be even aware of. So suddenly Edjoe is in love and making love and 3 yrs down the road guess what! he and his new love have a gift...maybe neither of them knows where it came from...does that make the love any less suddenly...I think I'm PMSing sorry.... | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 9:05:46 AM | Hi Ed,
I think its great that you differentiate between lovemaking and casual sex etc, but I do want to clarify that YES you can get an STD without ever having sex. Oral sex causes a large % of STD's today and is becoming an increasing problem in the teenage population, many of whom are still virgins.
Also, you would be interested to know about some polls that have been taken amongst some Herpes support groups. (By the way - I work closely with STD experts, groups and therapists so do know what I am talking about). The polls asked what age and after how many partners people got Herpes. MANY got Herpes after just a couple of partners. For me it was my 2nd boyfriend. We were together 4 years. He, like so many, did not know he even had it (he thought it was just a little ingrown hair). Not recognising symptoms is the case for 90% of people with Herpes, and also many other curable, yet more harmful STD's. And HPV for instance cannot even be checked for in men, so you may even have it yourself. And no - a condom does not FULLY protect, and yes, it can be passed on Orally like many STD's.
And yes, cold sores really can and do cause genital herpes. You would be amazed at the number of monogomous partners where one has a cold sore, and is passing this on because the have no idea that they can pass on Herpes. Or the numbers of monogomous couples where one has a virus lying dormant for years and years - maybe even from before their marriage etc, maybe from their first ever partner.
Herpes and HEP B are not included in regular testing and many people are unaware of this.
Docs in Canada do not test for Herpes because they maintain that its pointless:-( They say that if everyone got accurately tested (IgG or Western Blot), almost every single adult would have either HSV1 or HSV2 - and both can occur orally or genitally. Apparently by age 50 at least 80% of the population will have one or the other.
Ed, have you been blood tested for STD's including Herpes and Hep B?? You might be surprised at the results. And I will restate that men cannot be tsted for HPV - and it affects 70-80% of the north american population.
So I would probably be a little less judgemental. Its not even about making mistakes sexually. STD's are unfortunately a reality of a modern day world. That doesn't mean one shouldn't practice harm reduction - on the contrary! However, until everyone has been accurately tested, many people are walking around even in monogomous relationships with one or both having an STD or a cold sore:-(
SNF
"Whats your status - Are you positive you're negative? Get Tested!"
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www.racoon.com/herpes
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Posted: 10/15/2007 9:21:29 AM | well having said all that i have to say...i understand being chucked aside cuz of a disorder...mine isnot as common as herpies and i did not seek mine either...so from this light i can feel the edge from both issues...smartie you can relate your hearing to this issue...so i do understand the issue and to me when i get to know someone is cuz i choose them...and in discovery often we find stuff we don't like but i do not blame
my disease for it... so we need to remember often we ourself allow stigma to shun ourself...and in that light we project an image into self that make us feel unworthy...do not settle for that perception...
you are good enough and do not let folks who think that is an issue project there fears into you...hold your unique ground and wait for someone who deserves your spirit and is prepared to be mature and realize humans come with some things that they did not choose... is ok to have an issue but do not let thatr issue rule your spirit kids...   | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 10:16:07 AM | an after thought....A personal boundry when folks do not relate ::::do not waste your energy on them...
Hold that power and do not allow human's who can not relate to enter your core of power. 30 years of experience in tossing non relating folks to the curb...chuckles...works for me
choose human's who feed your soul not azzhole's to steal your power!!!
 you can find the power in YOU!!! | |
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Posted: 10/15/2007 2:47:41 PM | ^^^MY HERO^^^
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Posted: 10/16/2007 9:31:44 AM | hugs wer....ya know kids it is from this light we find our value as a human...once you realize your value as a human and that responsibility lands straight on your own shoulders...but but nothing...the person who needs to feel your value first is YOU...
when your shit kicked enough you find the ground to biuld a solid base and goodluck at allowing some other human to challenge that spirit with all those growth choices...there is solice in having this growth experience...there is good and evil and the choice is yours if you want to choose to join in evil. You know in your heart the answer,,,,your unique special and contain more understanding tools cuz you deeper into understanding yourself.
It is a choice to value self and not give anyone the leverage to break down the core...
It has been years of rejection and allowing that energy to teach me...
It has brought me to the conclusion that.." i thank my disease for showing me who deserves my time and who dosen't"
...perception is a magic in finding value...do not pretend life is easy...it isn't..... but sharing your pain allows other humans a CHANCE to give you tools to defy the associated depression...depression is a series of bad habits...there are tools to pull you out of there...do not ever give up kids...you have 1 live to live...LIVE it to the edge of your choice and find your value...cuz it is there...i promise you...begind that pain is a mountain of understanding...infront of that pain is lessons for you to learn...do not
ever pretend there is not value in learning those things...cuz it makes your character strong but yet sensitive...it makes you belive that there is more to life than what others give cuz then you relize one day.........your the lucky one... the disease
for me has taught me who is not worth my time and it saved my heels alot of primary work....chuckles...so life is waiting...you gonna sit on your azz and swallow others opinions...falk that...your voice constitutes your holding your power...the ticket to find self is behind that pain...go get it kids...keep kickin the wall till the bit**ch comes down...
this  is a false notion in your head. smiles and hugs
the stigma is only there if you allow it. and others can only hurt you cuz you allow them to get to trust without proving there value...small error... move the trust boundry further from core and make others proove they deserve your time....
you have a lot to give some human and some day they will know it...when you get the curb give them pity not YOUR anger...they are just small and do not have that lesson to solve your value...wrong human...next. and take your spirit with you do not give your energy to humans who do not deserve your spirit...hugs
you can not expect others to accept in a heartbeat what you have taken years to understand yourself....give normal a chance cope with everything you have taken a long time to accept...you can't expect them to not be scared...you where from the beginning...so offer that understanding knowing the ground you yourself have already
conquered...use your growth to relate to others who you expect to gravitate to you...goodluck...and you can find the power in you...one day at a time
for every pot there is a lid.... .......sorry if i hyjacked the thread but i figure some folks need to know...life is a choice indeed... | |
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| Herpes?
Posted: 10/27/2007 4:26:27 AM | I think that everyone who buys a trendset disease for the hard sell of the health and drug industry, well, they're just idiots. Worse, they move further to publickly take on the "mea-culpa" speeches and they don't even f#ck know what exactly Herpes is.
They could do better at the BDSM as sufferer... and then take the moralists, trendsetters and sh*tters as their best voyeurs.
Ignorance is bliss! Enjoy!
Here a sweet song to ring a bell for those with a troubled soul after a hard Herpes posting...
Express yourself, dont repress yourself (repeat 4 times)
And Im not sorry [Im not sorry]
Its human nature [its human nature]
And Im not sorry [Im not sorry]
Im not your b*tch dont hang your sh*t on me [its human nature]
You wouldnt let me say the words I longed to say
You didnt want to see life through my eyes
[express yourself, dont repress yourself]
You tried to shove me back inside your narrow room
And silence me with bitterness and lies
[express yourself, dont repress yourself]
Did I say something wrong?
Oops, I didnt know I couldnt talk about sex
[i musta been crazy]
Did I stay too long?
Oops, I didnt know I couldnt speak my mind
[what was I thinking]
You punished me for telling you my fantasies
Im breakin all the rules I didnt make
[express yourself, dont repress yourself]
You took my words and made a trap for silly fools
You held me down and tried to make me break
[express yourself, dont repress yourself]
Did I say something true?
Oops, I didnt know I couldnt talk about sex
[i musta been crazy]
Did I have a point of view?
Oops, I didnt know I couldnt talk about you
[what was I thinking]
Express yourself, dont repress yourself (repeat twice)
Express yourself, dont repress yourself (repeat twice)
[Im not apologizing]
[would it sound better if I were a man? ]
[you're the one with the problem]
[why dont you just deal with it]
[would you like me better if I was? ]
[we all feel the same way]
[i have no regrets]
[just look in the mirror] (If you can?)
[i dont have to justify anything]
[Im just like you]
[why should I be? ]
[deal with it] | |
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Posted: 10/28/2007 1:52:36 PM | People can sing songs and **** bout this and lie about shit,,,,,,,,,,,, but here's my cents worth!
people with Herpe's are well aware of the spread of them and I would hope the hell that they would be honest .
which im sure most are,,, some are just ignorant ,,, and the moral of this story ,, dont be sleepn around , and if you choose to as we all have us protection!
also!
dont be azz hole if someone is honest with you,cus then you become the one with the disease! ha!
oh yah and life goes on...................
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