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Posted: 1/9/2007 6:27:33 AM | pony-
Where, do tell, did I bash the US? Saying that I don't accept what gov't run websites have to say about marijuana is not bashing the US. And you're right, I'm trying to convince myself. Afterall it was me who told myself to lay off the THC in this thread. Right.  | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 6:41:02 AM | Here you go PWG
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Posted: 1/9/2007 6:53:00 AM | one97pony- I don't think poorwhitegirl was bashing the USA at all. You see, it's been proven that your government has overstated/understated the various effects of and just been plain wrong about marijuana for years and will not back down because of their "war on drugs". It's very much like their "war on terror"....they take an idea...declare war on it to look tough, although they know they can't win. They use trite catchphrases,cartoon characters and colour coded charts to rally support for their "cause" and they spread misinformation. It's insulting to the American people really.
Intelligent people know to separate a government from it's people. An "attack" on your government is not an attack on the rest of you. It's just a shame to see that there are so many in the U.S who are okay with the government treating you like children and trying to spoonfeed you propoganda. Phrases like "gateway" drug, etc. are meaningless and trying to spread the fear. It is probably true that people who try marijuana are more likely to try harder drugs....but do you think they'll ever admit it's because people who try drugs have the type of personality "flaws" that would lead them to harder drugs anyway?
But, you see, in claiming that it's the "marijuana's" fault that these poor addicts are now on crack or heroin, they have another simplistic rallying point for their "war". They take the onus off the person in question and give them SOMETHING to blame for it. Not healthy, and certainly not in line with any rehabilitation programs I've ever heard of.
Watch "Reefer Madness". In 50 years people will be laughing at the ideas that "we" have about marijuana today.
It's also interesting to me that so many people are against single parents smoking pot...as if having ANY parent in an altered state is okay. For the record, I know someone who smokes pot because it makes her way less messed up than painkillers or antidepressents. She's been treated for depression for years and they make her get into crying jags and take away her appetite and sexual desire. She's tried many kinds and they all pretty much affect her the same. However, if she has a few puffs on a joint throughout the day (not to the point where she's "stoned", just slightly buzzed), she's more relaxed, happier and she actually remembers to eat. So how is this "bad" when compared to filling her body with unnatural chemicals that don't work anyway?
I think it all depends on the situation. Getting stoned to the point where you can barely function in front of your kids? No way. Having a puff to help you deal when nothing else is working...and being able to function better than you would without it? Why not? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 7:13:23 AM | Brandlw
I am afraid you are a decade behind received wisdom on the subject! I do use dope on occasion, not very often but occasionally. I know the harm it does me.
To claim that THCs do not cause any underlying psychosis or schizophrenia to become far worse is false. Same with most forms of depression. The smoke is equally if not more carcinogenic than that of cigarettes. The list goes on and on
As a gateway drug, yes because it is illegal for good reason and this forces those that wish to buy it into the hands of criminals, who prefer smaller amounts and faster turnover
You fall into you own trap somewhat when you compare Cannabis to Heroin, ie Heroin being the BIG evil. The self same arguments can be put about Opiates as Cannaboids, in fact Opiates are on the whole less harmfull than Cannaboids as they have a far lower record of causing psycosis etc. It is perfectly possible to be addicted to Opiates and operate a full and normal life, they are after all the preferred "poison" of the medical profession. In the case of Opiates its the delivery system not being compatible with the illegality of the substance that causes the root of the problem and the price which causes the lifestyle that gives rise to the modern image of a smack addict! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 7:32:11 AM | allcrakedup, I don't have time at the moment to look into your sources. I will later on in the day. However, I don't see your list as being anymore up to date than mine was.
As a gateway drug, yes because it is illegal for good reason and this forces those that wish to buy it into the hands of criminals, who prefer smaller amounts and faster turnover
What good reason is pot illegal? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 8:12:41 AM |
What good reason is pot illegal?
Read the sources, it causes Psychosis, Depression, exasperates Schizophrenia etc ad nauseum
It seems some how fashionable to regard dope as a harmless substance, to ignore the well laid down reasons for it being controlled. It is illegal throughout Europe, which is a far more liberal society than the US. I think we also have to realise that the modern female Hydroponically grown beast is in no way similar to a "bit of grass" the stuff these days is strong Llb for llb up to 50x stronger in active ingredients than it was 30 years ago. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 10:51:48 AM | Ok, I have brifely skimmed what information I could come up with on the net. (re: your sources)
Like I said eariler, your sources aren't anymore up to date than the few that were cited in my post. (I think mine ended in 1994, and I believe you do have one or two in the later 90's but still...) I found nothing about killing of brain cells, but then again I didn't dig that deeply. Have you personally read those sources? Could you point me to where they talk about brain cells?
As far as pot being illegal because it causes different mental things- I don't buy it. Alcohol causes depression, liver problems, etc, etc, and it's legal. Cigarettes have NO benefit whatsoever and they are legal. I DO buy that pot causes temporary issues such as short term memory loss, paranoia, decreased reaction times, etc. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 12:01:57 PM | | Reefer Madness is a film produced in 1937. AND yes it is a gateway drug. I have witnessed its progress personally. Ask my kids if pot is not addicting....but do it after you ask them if they see their stoned dad. He picked it and meth and booze over them. I am sure there are alot of films out there that someday we will all laugh at. The USA is not alone in using propaganda...but they certainly do get asked for alot of aide from other countries. Have you ever been here? If we are so bad...why do so many want to come here to live? We are not perfect. But we are still a Great Country. AS far as drugs go...most over the counter drugs have their share of negative effects if used long term....like pot. Your friend needs to go back to the doctor. The way you describe her very personal battle (to strangers ) really sounds like she needs help to uncover what causes her depression...not cover it up with pot. Cause when the pot is gone...her problems will still be there. And I am against parents being in any kind of altered states....it just happens to be a thread on pot. I hope your friend does not ever see what you wrote...because even without names..your mutual friends and your friend will know who you are writing about. This is public. Anyway...I wish her luck on her battle...its a hard one. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 8:10:55 PM |
I am afraid you are a decade behind received wisdom on the subject!
How so? Even if you are right, where are the studies from the last few years that state that cannabis is more harmful to a person than alcohol or cigarettes?
To claim that THCs do not cause any underlying psychosis or schizophrenia to become far worse is false.
When did I claim any such thing?
The smoke is equally if not more carcinogenic than that of cigarettes.
Do you have a link to prove this? I cannot see how smoking a plant could be more carcinogenic than cigarettes with carcinogens ADDED.
As a gateway drug, yes because it is illegal for good reason and this forces those that wish to buy it into the hands of criminals, who prefer smaller amounts and faster turnover
Are you saying that marijuana is a gateway drug because it's illegal?
Reefer Madness is a film produced in 1937.
What does that have to do with it? It was produced by the government to "alert" teens to the dangers of smoking marijuana and is not so different than showing an egg frying in a pan.... now we know how laughable the ideas were in the film...what makes you think that the government's current stance on marijuana won't be laughed at a few decades from now?
Ask my kids if pot is not addicting....but do it after you ask them if they see their stoned dad.
I'd rather ask the experts if you don't mind. Not that I have anything against your kids, it's just that they'd be more likely to be biased.
He picked it and meth and booze over them.
Do you believe that it's marijuana's fault? I'm sorry to say, but it has very little to do with marijuana. He just has that personality type. It can be argued that anyone who would abuse pot would also abuse just about anything because of their personality. Pretty much anything can be an "addiction" if taken up by a person with an addictive personality. It's your ex's fault....not the marijuanas.
The USA is not alone in using propaganda...
Since when is this a sound argument for bad behavior?
but they certainly do get asked for alot of aide from other countries.
At a price, of course.
Have you ever been here? If we are so bad...why do so many want to come here to live? We are not perfect. But we are still a Great Country.
That's just the problem. Your government is not your "country". Your country is the people and your government is lying to you...treating you as if you're children who need to be controlled and manipulated because you don't know what's good for you and they do.
AS far as drugs go...most over the counter drugs have their share of negative effects if used long term....like pot.
Exactly....so why aren't they controlled or outright banned like marijuana? For those that contribute to an altered state (ever read the warnings about not using heavy machinery), how are they any different than using marijuana? Before you bring up legality, just remember that there is no good reason for marijuana to be illegal when compared to some of the drugs manufactured by pharmaceutical companies, yet they get the go ahead to produce them....
Your friend needs to go back to the doctor. The way you describe her very personal battle (to strangers ) really sounds like she needs help to uncover what causes her depression...not cover it up with pot.
My friend has been to at least 5 different doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists etc. in the last 11 years. She's going through therapy, and has taken many antidepressants and most of them make her feel worse (and yes, she takes them long enough to make sure they have a chance to work). Not one has made her feel better than she does while smoking pot...not one. So why deny her the benefit of taking a drug that makes her feel better?
As for the strangers comment...well, she wouldn't mind. It's not like I'm naming her and I'm pretty much the only person who knows what she's up to. No one would know from my posts which friend I'm talking about as my friends tend to travel in many different circles...she doesn't associate with the rest of them.
Cause when the pot is gone...her problems will still be there.
So will the problems of those people who take Paxil and the rest.
And I am against parents being in any kind of altered states....it just happens to be a thread on pot.
So you are against those parents who take antidepressents, painkillers, etc? Because they also alter your state....or do you think it's okay to be "altered" as long as it's legal? I take painkillers for a bad back every once in a while (usually a couple of times a year)...and migraine medication that (thankfully) knocks me out when I need the relief. Do you think I'm a bad mother because of it? | |
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Posted: 1/10/2007 1:49:55 AM | Been reading a few of the last posts in here about the effect of cannabis on the body. In some ways yes smoking a cigarette is far more harmful then smoking a joint of marijuana. However one effect that cannabis has that the average cigarette doesn't is the effect that common with a high from a joint.
I've heard the argument why is Alcohol Legal, and cannabis not.. To me the simple answer we already have enough problems with people drinking and driving... Why do we want to add to the problem? We go through the process of encouraging people not to smoke as well due the related health costs..
Would you be comfortable with the idea of your child simply being able to walk into a store, buy a joint, smoke up, and then drive a car... Or if your child hasn't done it themselves... Be on the road with others that might of.. Why add to our problems.
http://www.drugs.com/Marijuana/index.html
This is a web site I just came across that lists some of the Short and Long term effects of Marijuana usage. Just some more food for thought.. I'm not sure why people seem to think because something doesn't kill you straight out, it doesn't have effects.
Anything foreign we put into our bodies... It tries to fight off naturally. Yes even when you take an Anti-Biotic your body tries to fight off the thing that is helping you. Reason Antibiotics work is because they overpower the immune system, and can then go on to help treat what they were intended for. | |
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Posted: 1/21/2007 3:17:35 PM | Unlike with alcohol or cigarettes, continued use of marijuana is significantly associated with the use of harder drugs. In teenage years use is associated with twice the rate of illegal drug use later on (way above the rate of alcoholism in drinkers). I've cited two recent studies below, but could find none that came to an opposite conclusion.
Cannabis use and other illicit drug use: testing the cannabis gateway hypothesis. ergusson DM, Boden JM, Horwood LJ. Addiction. 2006 Apr;101(4):556-69.
AIM: To examine the associations between the frequency of cannabis use and the use of other illicit drugs. DESIGN: A 25-year longitudinal study of the health, development and adjustment of a birth cohort of 1,265 New Zealand children. MEASUREMENTS: Annual assessments of the frequency of cannabis use were obtained for the period 14-25 years, together with measures of the use of other illicit drugs from the same time period. FINDINGS: The frequency of cannabis use was associated significantly with the use of other illicit drugs, other illicit drug abuse/dependence and the use of a diversity of other drugs. This association was found to be particularly strong during adolescence but declined rapidly as age increased. Statistical control for confounding by both fixed and time dynamic factors using random- and fixed-effects regression models reduced the strength of association between frequency of cannabis use and other illicit drug use, but a strong association between frequency of cannabis use and other illicit drug use remained even after control for non-observed and time-dynamic sources of confounding. CONCLUSIONS: Regular or heavy cannabis use was associated with an increased risk of using other illicit drugs, abusing or becoming dependent upon other illicit drugs, and using a wider variety of other illicit drugs. The risks of use, abuse/dependence, and use of a diversity of other drugs declined with increasing age. The findings may support a general causal model such as the cannabis gateway hypothesis, but the actual causal mechanisms underlying such a gateway, and the extent to which these causal mechanisms are direct or indirect, remain unclear.
Relationship between adolescent marijuana use and young adult illicit drug use. Lessem JM, Hopfer CJ, Haberstick BC, Timberlake D, Ehringer MA, Smolen A, Hewitt JK. Behav Genet. 2006 Jul;36(4):498-506. Epub 2006 Mar 25.
: We examined three components of the "gateway theory" in relation to marijuana use: (1) whether adolescent marijuana use predicts young adult drug use, (2) whether this association persists when controlling for similar family background, (3) whether common genetic or environmental factors contribute to the association. The three components were tested in adolescents from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health assessed twice during adolescence and then re-interviewed 5 years later. Component 1 was tested in 18,286 subjects, component 2 in sibling pairs (n=360) discordant for marijuana use, and component 3 in a genetically informative sub-sample (n=4846). Marijuana use was defined as any use during adolescence, and drug use was defined as self-reported past year use of other illicit drugs besides marijuana. Marijuana users were twice as likely to use illicit drugs as young adults than non-users. Shared environmental factors mediated much of the relationship between adolescent marijuana use and young adult drug use. The association remained, however, even when controlling for familial environmental and other measured factors.
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Posted: 1/28/2007 8:59:44 PM | Is this high school? Parents smoking pot? Is this a class of unwed teen parents? Good grief people....I find this debate amusing.
All I know is that you can ask any peace officer, who would they rather deal with a drunk or someone stoned on pot....the drunk wins everytime....THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!!
I remember as a teen babysitting some people that left their "pot" laying around...one time they couldn't pay me for keeping their child safe...I wonder if they needed a j if they could round up the cash for that?
All for medicinal mj...works wonderful for pain etc...if it does for that for someone who's body is in crisis.... hmmm what is it doing to a healthy body?
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Posted: 1/28/2007 9:24:02 PM | Wow. I just got done reading all this over again. Strollin' down memory lane...
I still stand on my earlier responses.
Its all so really sad. I can remember the ex tellin' me that at 18, his dad passed him a doobie. Apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
I dont care if you think you are hiding it and doing it while they are asleep. Kids are smart and can pick up on that. No way in hell I would condone it. No justification.
Dont know if I mentioned this in this thread from months/years back. But I can remember having a convo with my ex's then 13 yr. old sister. She confided in me that she knew hed be smoking it when she got off the school bus outside. Poor girl was into coke at 16. | |
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Posted: 1/28/2007 9:51:08 PM |
I dont care if you think you are hiding it and doing it while they are asleep. Kids are smart and can pick up on that.
I hear you peanut...
Can't really hide anything from our kids no matter how much we think we can.
Look back this was the thread I dug up out of the archives... Wonder what happen to the pot smokin' click....
I didn't reread, but old enough to know what I beleive/know. Whatever I said I stand by it...WOWbyBDJ "Users R Lozers"
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Posted: 1/28/2007 10:05:20 PM |
Look back this was the thread I dug up out of the archives... Wonder what happen to the pot smokin' click....
I skimmed thru most of it. Looks as if they are no longer members. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 3:31:06 PM | That would be the pot smoking *clique*, NOT "click".
Next thing you know these people will be telling us what religion we can or cannot follow, how to dress, and what music we can listen to.
This is a matter of values people. Any not everyone shares the same values. People in Holland for instance don't share the anti-pot values. A slight majority of Canadians would also not share these values, not to mention a US president "or two".
And what cop in his right mind would say he would prefer to deal with a drunk than a person stoned on pot?!? One that sits behind the desk and shuffles papes all day?
I've dealt with both. Potsmokers are invariably more compliant and more coherent. Likewise, all of the cops I know would prefer to deal with the pothead over the drunk, for the same reasons.
Anyone who thinks that pot is worse than alcohol is clearly... 
What I would hate to pass on to my kids is hypocrasy, ignorance and intolerance; not to mention holier-than-thou "clique-ishness". Now excuse me, I have a joint to go smoke. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 3:42:39 PM | Next thing you know these people will be telling us what religion we can or cannot follow, how to dress, and what music we can listen to.
Ehhh, funny, I always thought pot was ILLEGAL. You are ACTUALLY comparing religion and fashion to drugs??!
People in Holland for instance don't share the anti-pot values. A slight majority of Canadians would also not share these values, not to mention a US president "or two".
If someone jumped off a bridge, would you?
Anyone who thinks that pot is worse than alcohol is clearly...
MMMM..nope! Any abuse of those substances is not tolerated (in my home life). When you abuse any of those drugs, there is a problem and you should get checked out WHY you have a chemical dependency to cope with everyday life.
What I would hate to pass on to my kids is hypocrasy, ignorance and intolerance; not to mention holier-than-thou "clique-ishness".
..and what *I* would hate to pass on, is the assumption that doing drugs is ok. Uh, dont we teach kids drugs are bad? IE..D.A.R.E program. THAT, my fellow fishy poster, is HYPOCRICY. Teaching our children that drugs are harmful, but then dad goes and tokes one up. Smart.
Now excuse me, I have a joint to go smoke.
Ok brilliant one. Put that out on the net, as a parent, for the world to see. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 5:53:28 PM | You are ACTUALLY comparing religion and fashion to drugs??!
No. I am (actually) comparing some cliques attempt to enforce it's values on everyone else, with another cliques attempt to force it values on everyone else.
If someone jumped off a bridge, would you?
Are you actually comparing smoking pot with jumping off a bridge? Is that what the Dutch do, ie. jump off bridges, on a regular basis IYHO?
Any abuse of those substances is not tolerated (in my home life). When you abuse any of those drugs, there is a problem and you should get checked out WHY you have a chemical dependency to cope with everyday life.
I can't say I disagree here. But are you actually comparing use with abuse? Because there is a huge difference you know.
and what *I* would hate to pass on, is the assumption that doing drugs is ok. Uh, dont we teach kids drugs are bad? IE..D.A.R.E program. THAT, my fellow fishy poster, is HYPOCRICY. Teaching our children that drugs are harmful, but then dad goes and tokes one up. Smart.
Okay. And your point is? That dad taking a puff on a joint is bad, but for him to get hammered on alcohol is okay? Or to teach our children that drugs are bad, but to use them to address every problem conceivable is okay? Cup o' Joe anyone?
Ok brilliant one. Put that out on the net, as a parent, for the world to see.
Yeah. We wouldn't want anyone to be honest now would we? That's the last thing that the holier-than-thou clique ever wants... honesty. 'Specially concerning their own lives, values, and actions. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 6:12:11 PM | Okay. And your point is? That dad taking a puff on a joint is bad, but for him to get hammered on alcohol is okay?
Put the bong pipe down my son.
Youve missed the point entirely. Either that, or you are so wacked that you cannot see the damage and total hypocricy for your justifications.
Tell me, WHERE I said alcohol was ok? I said...ANY FORM OF ABUSE. Whether it be alcohol, drugs, perscription drugs, sex.
Yeah. We wouldn't want anyone to be honest now would we?
Holy s.hit. Are you serious? Do you NOT SEE that admitting, as a parent, that you do drugs on a website, where others (meaning mother/ex spouse) may take your words and use them in court? You are blinder than I thought. Toke up my son. Toke it up. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 6:44:37 PM | Well I will agree with ^^about the cops preferring to deal with drunks. When was the last time u went to a bar. I'm not much of a drinker and have found the worst people at the bar. Just my personal experience. One thing I do know is pot is very helpful for the ill. MS is one illness I know that benifits from smoking pot. I don't see anyone running down the medicine cabinets full of prescription drugs. Would u want to live ur life taking handfuls of meds everyday. I dont think the arguement of compairing drugs to alcohol is even on the same level. Maybe its a crutch 4 people who drink. Alcohol has ruined many lives. I can honestly say there is no debate. I don't agree with smoking it infront of children. But 4 the sake of my kids if their dad smokes pot to relieve his pain from MS before my kids get their 4 their short visit. Then all the power to him. He shakes uncontrolably, and is now in a wheelchair.
Handfuls of pills aren't the answer to a disease with no cure. I may get bad comments but fair is fair. unless u r sufferring from a debilitating disease the didn't strike u till u were 30, then keep ur bad comments to urself. Canada is comming along in realizing the benifits of pot. There r medical exemptees here. I guess the docors who signed their papers r bad. Or the compassion society. A group who sells and controlls the levels of pot and thc the ill get must be nuts. Grow up this is 2007 not 1960. And pot does relieve pain and benifit people. | |
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Posted: 1/29/2007 7:12:05 PM | Harley,
there are 12 pages of this, and it covers the arguements regarding using it for medicinal purposes. My mom is a breast cancer survivor, she did it "drug" free and did not use pot. Obviously, those who are FOR smoking it will want to cry medically ill purposes. One will go to the ends of the earth to justify its use.
Maybe its a crutch 4 people who drink
...and the same arguement can be used for pot. | |
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Posted: 1/30/2007 7:00:29 AM | Harleymay
Are we to legalise and promote Heroin then I mean its Diamorphine after all a commonly used painkiller all over the world
Or Maybe Cocaine I mean it has medicinal uses as a local for oral and nasal surgery, so lets legalise that then
Sativex is a cannaboid derived drug for MS sufferers, much the same as the pharmaceutical grade derivatives of the above. SO what need the raw stuff?
What I find weird is with this huge untapped market for Cannabis, that so few of the major pharm companies have thought to exploit it, is this because the stuff is not as effective as many would have us believe perhaps? | |
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Posted: 1/30/2007 7:27:21 AM |
Are we to legalise and promote Heroin then I mean its Diamorphine after all a commonly used painkiller all over the world
Or Maybe Cocaine I mean it has medicinal uses as a local for oral and nasal surgery, so lets legalise that then
Wouldn't that be going backwards....????
100 years ago they were legal in the USA. Herionwas the trade name the bayer aspirin company owned. It was the wonder drug of it's time. Smake oils, couch syrups etc. Yap Bayer aspirin co.1898 The Bayer Company introduced heroin as a substitute for morphine.
In the 1907 you could even buy a little shoot up kits.
Dec 17, 1914 Passage of the Harrison Narcotics Act which aims to curb drug (especially cocaine but also heroin) abuse and addiction. It requires doctors, pharmacists and others who prescribed narcotics to register and pay a tax.
Basically cocaine and herion became illegal with this act in the USA.
why do people get (chemically high)...??
Simple... because they are not happy with the way they feel... they want to go to a place that makes them feel "good"...
The sooner you feel "good" without a chemical induced feeling the healthier you will be.
Why are not so many drugs legalized.... Simple.... because people refuse to control the drug...They let the drugs control them....Problem becomes when it effect thepeople you are drivinge a car around, airplane, train. In the position of safety...health of others...patients,children . etc
"..........hey dude sit the joint done, and grab the treeman's safety line",,,,YEA.RIGHT!!
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Posted: 1/30/2007 7:37:40 AM |
because they are not happy with the way they feel... they want to go to a place that makes them feel "good"...
The sooner you feel "good" without a chemical induced feeling the healthier you will be.
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