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Posted: 1/31/2007 9:06:07 AM |
BDJ you ever served anything other than yourself mate ?
My judgement was sound, I was smoking also.
No offense, because I know we are pretty much on the same page when it comes to zero tolerance, but...my ex used the same excuse, if not similar, while he was a Marine. Which is why he was in the "broke**** section. It was mainly composed of those "soldiers" who popped their drug tests and those getting out or attempting to, on a med. discharge. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 10:25:43 AM | None taken
My unit were not drug tested during our serving time, on selection we were. And we were self regulating in this respect, if someone was over the line, they RTUd, returned to their original unit, a few did over time.
We didnt drink or do anything for at least 72 hours prior to going back on duty. And no offence but my outfit were a little more advanced and able than the the united states marine corp! Though we did train US Special Forces occasionally, pretty low callibre stuff the US forces in general im afraid. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 10:44:00 AM | | Dont make light of the Armed Forces in the US. Using drugs, recreationally has nothing to do with the caliber branch you are in, neither do the outfits and training. Fact is, you are representing your country (no matter if you are in the US or not). | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 3:10:16 PM | Back on topic here ....
Smoking weed is fine .. just not around ANY kids be they 3 days or 18 years old yours or somone elses.
People who say drinking in front of your kids is fine because its legal are sheep. Alcohol produces the same chemical byproduct in your brain that gets you "high" as pure (or cut) heroin does. Think about that. Do you want your kids doing heroin?
I think its hilarious that the only reason weed is "CONTROLED" (not illegal in most places) is because of american prejudices again mexicans at the beginning of the last century .. and despite its many proven benifical medical proerties its still controlled and actually ( LOL) illegal in some places. But then if it wasn't the drug companies would suffer severely impared profits .. say instead of 4-5 billion a year they would only make 3-4 billion net profit (actual numbers not known you try calling a major pharmacutical company and ask them what thier net profit was and see what happens). God forbid that anyone lose a billion or 2 in money they just shuffle around to avoid paying taxes on anyways ....
If your going to contribute to a subject please do your research. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 3:46:25 PM | Do not tell me to go back and do "research" simply because I dont condone ANY chemical abuse. Whether it be pot or alcohol.
Just because you dont do it when your kids are around, doesnt mean they dont know. Kids are smart and can pick up on it.
Im sooooooooooooo talking in circles here, because Ive covered it on the 14 PAGES of this topic that dated back LAST YEAR. Obviously YOU have not gone back and researched THIS thread, because there are many statistics that were given as well.
Another example that I already posted somewhere within this topic--
The ex's dad and his son were, ahem, "bonding" out in the front of the house, smoking one, when here came the ex's dad's daughter off the school bus. They "quick" tried to put it out and waved their hands in the air. Later on, maybe a few months later, her and I were having a talk, and she admitted she could smell and know what they were doing that day when she came home. Her dad apparently NEVER smoked around her, but, she knew. Smart kid. Most are. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:25:50 PM | Single Dad;
I hear what you are saying with regards to the medical use of pot. It has been proven to held alleviate wasting in diseases such Aids, and the after effects of kemo in cancer treatment. When my father was sick with cancer last year I was more than prepared to purchase pot for him when he went through kemo. Unfortunately, for the type of cancer he had there were two types of kemo drugs, one was not even approved yet, unfortunately, he was too far along for the other.
Another reason that pot is illegal both in the states and in Canada had to do with the lumber barrons of the last and 19th century. Hemp was used to make all sort of products including paper. It was the lumber barrons who got it declared illegal as well as the reasons you have noted above. The reason for this is, as always money, since hemp is renewable and relatively cheap crop to produce. It sad that we still cut down our forests for paper when we have viable alternative in hemp for the production of paper products.
Actually, a funny story from Canada is last year the Federal Government approved the consumption of pot for medical purposes so long as it was doctor approved. The funny thing was that the government set up their own grow op in an old mine to supply it for medical purposes. Guess what, their crop failed miserably. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:35:39 PM | Disney mom
I have served alongside US forces in several theatres of war. Iraq, the Balkan, Somalia to name but 3. I served in probably the finest unit in the world (toss up between us and our Israeli equivalent), well according to the US guys that fell to their knees in reverence at the very sight of us 
In general the Force of the US of A are great but they are ill disciplined in combat, they have a dangerous Gung Ho attitude (responsible for more allied deaths first time in Iraq than the enemy) A superior you cant tell us anything ..... BANG .... well I tried to tell you not to stand there attitude.
They use more recreational chemicals whilst on tour than any other military group I have met (that includes the Mujahidin), we used to call one outfit kippers cos they were always smoked!
That said, they are brave and on the whole honourable men and women who will follow the dumbest orders without question (or thought on occasion), and they are just great at drawing fire LOL.
Didnt an ex-president enjoy the odd toke? And cigar, had a curious way of cutting them I seem to remember.
Disney, I dont condone the use of dope, it is harmful and illegal, but less harmful than catching a round from an RPG LOL Or an over flying A10 as is more likely.
Sorry if I sound bitter, but you see, I am for good reason. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:41:25 PM | Single dad
Pure hogwash mate. Same chemical as an opiate from alcohol, LOVE IT LOL
Dope is illegal in most of the developed world
If it has so many medicinal qualities do you not think more drug companies would exploit it? And if this is the basis for allowing it, should we also allow Heroin and Cocaine for the same reason, or maybe I just fancy a Valium I feel a bit stressed
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:46:50 PM | Cracked, (and I use that term loosely..haha..jk)
Maybe you didnt understand my point...
I dont care who is stronger or weaker. I dont care who uses more drugs. I dont care who is more careless or has the bigger "Im the s.hit" attitude.
Fact is, still doesnt make it acceptable to do any drugs while serving. Unless you are deliberately trying to get kicked out. Then in that case, tell them you see purple elephants in your barracks and have wanted to hang your sheet out the window and hang yourself. Then you can get out real quick. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:48:47 PM | Funny how most who preach that it can be used for aiding cancer and aids for medicinal purposes arent even SICK themselves.
It screams an EXCUSE to get it legalized to smoke it. So blantantly obvious. Of course druggies want it legalized. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 4:53:25 PM | Allcracked
The reason that the drug companies don't use it is there is no profit to be made in it. It is cheap and can be grown by anyone.
As for the the herion, it is already widely used since they can make a huge profit from it and it cannot be produced easily. As for cocaine, look up studies on ritalin which like the cocaine is an aphedimine (sp?).
As single dad has pointed above it has to do with profit and money.
I guess you have simply bought into the ideas put forth in the war on drugs. | |
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Posted: 1/31/2007 7:58:25 PM |
BDJ you ever served anything other than yourself mate ?
Is this a thread about BDJ or potheads???
Well ACU as I can not spin the many yarns of globe trotting, protecting the Queen's Palace, being legally licensed to take human lives, Nor can I spin of chasing for 2 weeks characters across 3 countries. I can't post of the training to have government clearance to protect the world's richest and one's in possession of knowledge that control the world and NEED YOUR PROTECTION , all over the globe. The 007 lifestyle and multi-million dollar houses in different countries, espionage , and single handedly securing world order is a bit out of my grasp of a country boy removing large dead trees reading of such tails all from the computer of a FREE dating site...
IMHO, you are the most creative writer I have came across at POF, and IMHO believe that your creativity is magnified by your wordswe had a couple of spliffs. Truly look forward to a time when you play the "B" side of your record, because side "A" side is getting rather well played out.
Serving others.... Hummmmmm??? My life has been providing , food,shelter,and protection for others then my own kin most of my life. I live in a county where there is NOT one paid firefighter amongst the 400,000 plus that live here. So rescue and all of such is done by the volunteers of the community.
....our unit built a trust that a treeman will never understand.
Hummmm, you could not be farther from the truth.... That's why I have a ZERO TOLERENCE Policy on or OFF the job site. Actually have fired 2 guys over pot that were not even working...
As the owner of a business that usually ranks #1 for most dangerous job(1*) , the last 15 years of my life I have been the one to make the highest safety call. A job in which DAILY someone's life is the hands of another working, work, and support lines.... period....As one where I was both, the crane operator lifting over head 1,000's of pounds of dead tree, and the saw operator still harnessed in the top half of the tree . When one is supported by a 1/2 inch rope, or has the need of the execution of aforementioned scenario 80 feet plus in which both are in the hands of a man who is safely on the ground and a wrong action could easily cause DEATH......
Now your yarn of a few days excursion here and there with the trust of each other's life is MY daily routine
Do you think I want a pot smoker operating my ropes??? If so you must be out of your TREE.
I also don't want them......
1)operating equipment
2)making safety inspections
3) maintaining my gear
4)maintaining ANY equipment used off the ground
5)driving equipment on the road or,
6)the making of such equipment road ready .
In a Walnut SHELL, They are NOT allowed on MY job site. If caught off site recreationally using are terminated AT ONCE..period.
I pride myself in my career NEVER having an ER visit by ANYONE...A handful of stitches and a sore backs are the sums of all personally injuries. Hummmmm correlation a reciprocal relationship to a Drug free job site aye?
You think you have paper work when a death occurs???? Let one happen on a job site in the USA!!
We all know the facts are, MOST of the people that claim they are smoking while no ones around, and are not in the position anyone other's well being is.....BS. Read some of my earlier post for rebuttal.
1* Most Dangerous jobs in America.
http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/03/0903worksafe.html
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Posted: 1/31/2007 8:02:11 PM | ACU: Speaking of smoked????
Message 327 & 323....What are you smoking... One born and raised in the Chesapeake Bay State the evidence is "SMOKING" evident where twice us yanks "BAKED" you boys...
Blame the first one with signing off with the frogs, but I think old hickory, Colonel Jackson, might have a thing or to about how great you boys are... NOT...
Hummm.... superior , navy, and military...blah blah blah.... bunch of NON-pot smoking dirt farming and timber harvesters sent you boys home licking your wounds and you're still bitter almost 200 years later.
Now if you are spiff free read message 142 & 147 here in this thread... They sure answered alot of the question about "ABUSE" and Abusive substances..
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Posted: 2/1/2007 2:36:17 AM | BDJ
Please dont sully another thread with your lies! You have been caught out once on the other thread, when you lied about the content of a message sent by other posters, so I dont think we need take an awful lot of notice of you do we? In fact as you never add anything to any discussion apart from rabid discord and unsubstantiated bull, I for one will simply ignore you and point everyone else to how easily you seem to find it to lie! Consider yourself marginalised!!!
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Posted: 2/1/2007 2:40:26 AM | Chef
Sorry you are wrong, the process for the production of Heroin from raw opium is very easy. The Poppy grows easily in the harshest of conditions unlike the female Cannabis plant which is really what you need for high yield cannaboids. So thats that one out of the way
Statins are cheap to produce yet the pharm companies produce them in their billions
There are commercially available drugs produced from cannabis, they are used with weight management, MS etc, they deliver the active part without the high.
Whilst we are at it
The Most Dangerous Jobs in America, or Why Don't We See More Action/Adventure Shows Starring These Folks?
1. Truck driver
2. Farm worker
3. Sales supervisor/proprietor
4. Construction worker
5. Police detective
6. Airplane pilot
7. Security guard
8. Taxicab driver
9. Timber cutter
10. Cashier
11. Fisherman
12. Metal worker
13. Roofer
14. Firefighter
Source: U.S. Labor Department
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Posted: 2/1/2007 4:34:32 AM | | Man would I love to share some of the MANY stories about the mom of my 5 thats a pot head still to this day ! Damn ! What this shit did to my 15 year long relationship is absolutely pathetic and all the little in home wars I fought and sometimes lost left me shell shocked somedays. You know the day my first born arrived something inside me clicked and said ok time to grow up now but do you think I could convince the mom to feel the same ? I mean I fought battles from just simply not doing it in front of them to not smoking it in the car while your driving down the fvcking 401 at 120k with them in the backseat ! You know is there any difference in someone that has to get a weed buzz on everyday no matter the time or things that need done compared to what society considers and alcoholic ? I don't see the difference, I grew up with an alcoholic and spent 15 years with a weed abuser...there is no difference, same outcome for all concerned. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 6:23:37 AM | Ok... I'll jump in. This thread is not really about if it messes up your life... if it is legal, if it should be legal... it is about if a parent should/should not smoke pot.
Well... first... like it or not, it is illegal. That does mean that you take great risks to purchase, hold, and use any drug.
I don't care what people do, so long as they are responsible, and accept consequences of thier actions. If you want to smoke pot, do a line, or go rolling... knock yourself out.
You know the risks as an adult. You take the risks, don't complain if something bad happens. Because of it's legal status, you take more risks than doing other things.
Now... that being said, even legal substances you really need to be careful of. Even though it is legal... someone binge drinking in front of thier children is far more irresponsible than someone that has the children overnight at families, and has a roll party... Because at least that person knows the children are safe, are not exposed to the situation, and are in the hands of family should something go wrong.
I'm not encouraging it... but anything should be done responsibly. It doesn't matter if it is legal or not. Speeding is also illegal, so are any number of things that most of us break. It is just that Drugs are often much more harshly dealt with (and rightfully so). | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 6:40:42 AM | | First of all i did say i use too but haven't for YEARS.....and yes i did say i'd wait till there in bed, or gone to there dads....but i'd GO OUTSIDE........NEVER inside....would never do that to the kids, they ARE important to me, and you should never put your kids through that and make them have to smell / breath it. When i want a cigarette i go OUTSIDE....can't stand the smell it leaves it a house, let alone a joint. I am not against pot because i'd rather be with someone that smokes pot, then with someone that drinks to get drunk....NOT MY THING. | |
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Posted: 2/1/2007 7:44:01 AM | | It drives me nuts that my daughter's father smokes when he has custody of our daughter. Unfortunately....there is sweet f all I can do about it. He does it when she is in bed and because he is an habitual user the effect on him is not much more than having a couple drinks would be for me. Of course, I don't drink to "buzz point" when I have my kids but well.....that is my choice. I need to know that in an emergency, I would have my wits enough to be in a rational state of mind, capable of operating a vehicle. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I have to trust him enough that he is not "overdoing it" or I will be in a constant state of worry and that is not healthy. Grant me serenity to accept what I cannot change, Courage to change what I can and Wisdom to know the difference! | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 5:52:08 PM | Off topic :
When you see derogatory posts PLEASE remember people with closed minds always have open mouths and responding to them only encourages them to keep yapping! These people ENJOY pissing others off or they would not deliberatly antagonize others like this. Its hard at times but just ignore thier posts for what they are and move on ... eventually they find another thread where they get a reaction. No reaction = no more posts. Remember when some dic! flames you its because they want you to react. If you react they win (in thier minds).
I am not condoning the use of illegal substances either I'm also not afraid to and have already done so tell police officers thats i do consume marijuanna on occasion. The reaction i usually get is "so what?" I have never been arrested for any form of drug or alcohol related charges The only reason i do not tell my child about weed and what it does, why children should not use it, why adults should not use it etc. like i did with alcohol is Specifically because it is a legally "controlled substance"! When the topic comes up i will tell him he should not do it because its a controlled subtance by law.
I do not wish in any way to ever give my child the idea it was ok to break ANY laws EXCEPT if inaction puts the lives of others at risk.
I totally agree that NO FORM OF CHEMICAL OR HERBAL ageny should be use by anyoone who has a job where a misjudgement is more often deadly to themselves or others. Fireing somone from a compnay for smoking a joint on the weekend is reasonable since it IS a breach of our current laws. And most employment contracts allow termination of employment for being arrested. I would not want Police showing up at my company when I had clients there or not. It could start all sorts of false rumours about why the Police were on the premisesHowever do you fire the guy who went home after work an had a beer? or even the guy who gets home every day and has a beer? Mayby 2 on a Saturday? Then If it was legal and you fired somone for doing it off jobsite after work on fri night you would have serious problems.
Just a heads up for the future m8 :) | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 7:24:54 PM | | I'm a single mother of 2 boys and I would slap the hell out of some one if they smoked dope or any drug in front of my kids or any one else's kids. What it seems to me is you just want to party and not be and responsible adult. here is what the meaning to responsible is:capable of making ethical and moral decisions. something that u don't seem to know how to do.or maybe u just don't want to. take care of yourself and those baby's you need to learn respect to get respect. | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 7:30:12 PM |
The only reason i do not tell my child about weed and what it does, why children should not use it, why adults should not use it etc.
Ahhhhhhhhh. The "do as I say, not as I do" speech scenerio. Great parenting! | |
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Posted: 2/4/2007 9:25:57 PM | illegal is illegal.
Make a choice to not smoke it or you might make an excuse for your child to do it as well. | |
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Posted: 2/5/2007 6:10:33 AM | | I agree. What you model for your children is what's mirrored back to you. Parenting can be difficult at times, but who said it was easy? | |
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