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Posted: 8/14/2006 11:33:14 AM |  Amen to that Fry_lock^5!
(call me stupid, but someone feel free to let me know if single parents smoking pot is really worse than married couples smoking pot together?rofl)
Suspending all judgment HERE lol from what I have seen, unfortunately, 9x out of 10, stupidity HAS and IS actually an effective defense to serious and far more ominous cases of child neglect and abuse! :help
*sigh* um...reminding me of stupid lol there is no doubt, of course, there are parents out there, which while grabbing the kids' rx for Ritalin, would prefer, much like most government entities/lawyers/pharmaceutical companies, that we all become equally as stupid. Well, at least stupid enough, to pay even more medical co pays...Now, I am not saying that doing anything it takes to sell more prescriptions of Prozac, Zoloft, and whatever might be the newly discovered numbmeup of the week, and individuals looking for comfort and answers for their own feelings of inadequacy, in reasonably finding fault in others, necessarily a BAD thing…
Peace; single, pot smoking, three-eyed, government officials, or not!
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Posted: 8/14/2006 11:40:55 AM | | I smoke cigarettes, I occasionally smoke pot. Im a single mother of 2 and don't do either around my kids. I am also a student and a volunteer. Im an awesome mom, and I make my own decisions like everyone else. Im surprised to hear the cpa is taking kids away from competent parents who are then being raised in ever unhealthier environments like foster and group homes. What about all those kids out there whos parents beat them and really neglect them? Those are the children that we should concentrate on. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 12:35:01 PM | I do not in any way find parents smoking pot acceptable. It may just be me, but I think as a parent you should grow from those stages of life, and be a proper role model.
Kids need your time,affection, love.. and everything else. The parent(s) shouldnt be tainted with being high and smoking pot.
If it's a must to smoke pot or drink, do it seldomly and defenitly outside of the house. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 1:25:56 PM | I dont see some how parents smoking pot should be OUR (other parents) right to talk down about them i mean if those parents are NOT around you or your kids/baby and does not smoke pot around you or your baby/kids or their own kids then ,why should any of us have any say so in other single parents lives about what they are doing yeah we may say how WE wouldn't do the things they mention but its not the same as in saying "you shouldnt do this/that and your a bad parent if you allow these things".
~I know not all of us single/single for NOW parents on the threads are alike, were ALL different~
ps,....
Now im off for a little while and please do NOT take my OPIONS as being harsh to other single parents. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 3:56:49 PM | She decided her drug use was more important than her child. Therefore, she has poor parental judgment and we must take the child for his/her safety." I have seen this argument used....and work. Be very careful when you decide that you disagree with laws and are not going to follow them...especially when children are involved.
Ozzieman .. I am in agreement with you. People have a way ( understandable ) of minimizing / intellectuallizing / rationalizing / and / or justifying the behaviour they do not want to give up. This in and of itself speaks volumes.
Children do learn what they live and with this said they learn from our coping how to cope themselves. Many people use poit and alcohol responsibly however there is a wide array of people who do not. Further to this and contrary to many other's opinions, both pot and alcohol can and do act as gateways to harder substances. A parent has no way of predicting that this will not happen to their child. Children need to learn how to deal with life's upsets in healthy ways. As adults they will have the tool-box they need and is they decide to "use" or "imbide" it is mopre likely to be responsible use if they have a bevy of coping mechanisims for dealing with lonliness / boredom and other unpleasant emotions. Anyone who has smoked pot regulary over a period of time, if honest, will also agree that short term memory loss is iminent and "complacency" is a common consequence of long term pot smoking. Chronic pot smokers have very little real drive or passion for anything and rely on zoning out .
I am a social worker and substance abuse counsellor in a maximum security Provincial Correctional Centre. Add to that that back in the day I too fell into the drug scene and all that goes with it. I was lucky and had great parents who cheated themselves to stand by me despite the cost to themselves. Not at all is every kid or teenager that lucky or blessed.
With all of this my own Son developed an addiction to crack cocaine that lasted a couple of years. Mom did not have healthy coping skills to deal with my emotional upsetments and such so how could he have acquired them?
Again, children learn what they live and they have many temptations and peer pressure to deal with outside the home. In the home we can do our best to develop a healthy foundation for them.
I agree with you that if you are willing to risk the CAS becoming involved with one's child-rearing concerns then perhaps ya think there might be a problem? Never mind all the above aforementioned, the risk of losing your children speaks loudly to most of us and speaks loudly as to how responsible a parent we are.
I also work in a female unit consisting of 32 women. Two thirds of these women have lost their children permenantly as crown wards , with years of warning beforehand. Yet nearly all of them will have attested to having been good parents.
Nuff said on this thread. I realize too that this is a topic that is going to have a lot of backs and hackles go up. But again I take one back to the beginning of my comment. Denial is a powerful behaviour that seeks to justify to condone a behaviour we do not want to give up. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 4:01:40 PM | Gosh one more two cents worth. You're surprised that children are taken away for pot smoking of parents?The operative word here is indeed " compentent" If you know that something is against the law AND you know what the consequences can entail .. is this competent. I am not saying that I agree with the current laws as this is neither here nor there. Again ... if you are willing to put your relationship with your children at risk ... is this competent?
There are many facets that can be discussed on this topic with or without the inclusion of children. A good thread though to be sure as hopefully the thread will cause some to reflect and go a little deeper within themselves in further examining this whole topic as it applies to them personally. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 4:04:56 PM | People have a way ( understandable ) of minimizing / intellectuallizing / rationalizing / and / or justifying the behaviour they do not want to give up. This in and of itself speaks volumes.
Denial is a powerful behaviour that seeks to justify to condone a behaviour we do not want to give up.
So very well put! Bravo!
I also think that its mighty interesting that those who say they smoke pot, have put "no" on the drugs question. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Why is that? They are so proud to say they smoke it on a message board, yet, they dont include that on their profile? Feeling guilty, perhaps knowing that most dont condone it? | |
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Posted: 8/14/2006 6:49:52 PM | Does smoking put make you a bad parent??
My rebuttal would be that when a parent engages in a behavior that very well could cause them an arrest, and having the child removed from their care and custody, then surely they are a BAD parent. period.
In you are in the USA, let me quote a cop from one of our most liberal states when it comes to pot.......
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It doesn't matter if you think it is no big deal, or not as bad as drinking....if you get caught smoking, there are major consequences....one of which may be you could lose your child. I have seen it happen....so anyone who says that it never happens is speaking without knowledge. By using weed you are knowingly placing your parental rights at risk...as for what? A buzz and the munchies???? You gotta be smarter than that. And that will be the argument that CPS uses when they try to take your child away, "Well she used drugs knowing that she could lose her children. She decided her drug use was more important than her child.
Now the people that live in/and think it's legal in Canada...
Set the bong down and mouse click over to "YOUR" Justice site. It's also in French
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/
A December 2003 Ruling by "YOUR" Supreme made a simple possession of crime which first offense carries up to 6 months.
Not sure what makes a GOOD parent or a BAD parent, but I would say breaking the law in which you could go to jail and lose your child (be it for a day week, year, whatever) has got to make the "BAD" list.
For the potheads useing the drinking arguement.
Yes, some acts of drinking carry the same results as losing your child when you cross the line of law breaking. (Drinking and driving, and public intoxication)
However, a case of beer in your car, beer in the frig, and drinking in front of your child are all legal. In fact in Maryland you can give your child a beer.
As for toxic levels....RIGHT... Everything in a large enough amount is toxic to the point it can case death, even water..YES WATER..It's called hyponatremia. A few years back a marathon runner died of it.
Medical studies clearly show both cause brain damage... Talk to any pot smoker that has been smoking for 20 years.....They aren't the sharpest tool in the box.
Yes Virgina smoking pot does make BAD parent.
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Posted: 8/14/2006 9:23:42 PM | that's right,, everybody should just listen to the guy who is from the place that gives children beer,
this thread has been done to death, do a thread search and you will see that some people who don't smoke pot post stupid sh1t like that above, we all know that here in Canada nobody goes to jail or has there kids taken away from them cause they smoke a little weed, we're not talking about parents who share the weed with there toddlers, or the parent who leaves the weed on the coffee table, this is about people who work, run there households, get there kids to ball games and guitar lessons,then unwind at the end off the day with a little "hoot" ,
anytime you post this question your gonna get do gooders who think there opinion is right because its backed by outdated laws and movies like reefer madness where one toke and your jumping off the roof,
don't let some up tight straight ass "B"ig "D"umb "J"ack off, tell you that your gonna lose your kids, have a toke and relax a little, nobody really cares what you do in the privacy of your own home.
oh yeah buddy I'm back
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Posted: 8/14/2006 11:08:57 PM | oh oh
here we go again!
come on babe
lets go play with the choo choo's in the garage
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Posted: 8/19/2006 3:06:14 PM | Now the people that live in/and think it's legal in Canada...
Set the bong down and mouse click over to "YOUR" Justice site. It's also in French
A December 2003 Ruling by "YOUR" Supreme made a simple possession of crime which first offense carries up to 6 months.
Not sure what makes a GOOD parent or a BAD parent, but I would say breaking the law in which you could go to jail and lose your child (be it for a day week, year, whatever) has got to make the "BAD" list.
BDJ..
you are trying to convince menial pot smokers of the illegal aspect of participating in smoking pot here in Canada.....
these are the people that live in a country that the "Government" has implemented the first & only "Safe Injection Houses" in North America and gives out free "new" needles (along with the safe place and qualified people to help shoot up) to our addicts of much more serious & addictive drugs.....and you say pot smokers go to jail & loose their kids....give your head a shake and know our country before you start quoting obsolete, non implemented, oblivious laws .........think about it
disclaimer - I am not saying I agree or disagree with the above - It is just how it is on the West Coast....no one goes to jail for smoking pot - and rarely for growing it either!
now some of you "back to the garage" and the rest back to your " sanitized rubber rooms"
me I'll be in the garden......................
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Posted: 8/19/2006 4:26:20 PM | Dustine: Well said, I couldn't agree with you more!
BDJ:
While I don't know you, I'm pretty sure that neither you or anybody else for that matter would give a small child alcohol, so what your saying really doesn't make sense. You say smoking weed is illegall and that makes it bad, period. Giving your child a beer is legal so it's okay?
My point is this, the law in itself is fuzzy at the best of times. While posession may carry a fine or even time in jail, it is left up to the discretion of the police to lay charges. The police here in Canada are more interested in apprehending drunk drivers and gang members than somebody who smokes the odd joint and still is a productive member of society. | |
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Posted: 8/19/2006 5:24:00 PM | | here in Winnipeg they hand out clean crack kits, i hear they include condoms a new crack pipe and some matches, as well as antibiotic wipes, makes smoking a joint real scary now doesn't it | |
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Posted: 8/19/2006 8:50:19 PM | Well I see all the kids are smoked up and yapping in the forums...
^^^^Funny is...stats show that over 90% of Hard drug users started with POT^^^
Tried to post one time for you all that are to lazy to learn your own laws in your own country. (That's for the Canadians that think POF in their site). The fact is in the US we have a couple of the 50 states that have more people then your WHOLE country.
Want to keep up with Canadian laws...try your own Justice Site for starters...
http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/
Canada Supreme Court ruling of less then three years is far from being " obsolete" , It was if fact an over turning of laws that DID NOT carry jail time for 15 grams or less.
As for free needles....LMAO.... They've been passing them out here in the USA for over 2 decades, and the Moron Mayor of Baltimore several years back made it a misdemeanor if you had less the 17 bags of HERION in your possession.
The laws quoted as for drinking were to be forewarned for the potheads that where going to jump on the drinkers.
Here is a rather interesting fact......The percentage of drug crimes are very very close in comparison to Canada to the USA . It's just we have 8 times as many people.
Facts are per 100,000 Canada will have 186 drug related arrest , as compared to 215 Drunk driving arrest( yea real Far apart stats...HIGH?? umm....I mean...HUH???...LMAO@U ) It's all right there on YOUR daily updated Justice site with maybe upwards of a 1,000 or more links.
All the Canadian facts are for the kids here on this thread, potheads at least at best.
So even if you dodge the 80,000 or so drug related arrest... Pretty much...
"USERS are LOSERS"........Words of Wisdom By Big Daddy Joe..
What amazes me that all my life I find Potheads that have pretty much did nothing real postive their whole life and managed to dodge not killing anyone or end up in jail tell me how great their life is .. a little pot never hurt anyone.
No solid job history , several failed marriages,children out of wedlock, Most of their friends are fellow smokers. Many in their 40's still renting a house.... or better yet....living with other family members. ..............on and on and on
AND the real KICKER.........."POTHEADS" ....Always justifying how there are so many more "Harder" drugs or that "Drinking" is a drug ,it's just Legal...
Facts are more then 1/2 the pot smokers are a drain on society one way or another, that the rest of the hard working society has to pay for ...PERIOD.
Of the 40,000 plus FATALITIES just in transportation accidents in the USA each year where the operator was tested for drugs............................over 1/3 come back positive for Marijuana.
So not only do potheads kill innocent people , they also kill their own brain cells.
Talk to pothead...huh???.....er???..duh???? Giggle giggle giggle!!!
Chrips good example are the potheads that post in the pond. To quote Colin..."I don't consider Pot a drug. from his **Smoking pot doesn't make you a bad parent.** THREAD.
You potheads can have the thread back... I'm gone..... Smoke up, and while it's so good and great...tell yourself why you hide it....wait tell everyones asleep, or away,...load your cars up with the dollar air frenshners..... go around spraying to cover the scent........keep your "stash" hide............etc ,etc, etc.
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Posted: 8/19/2006 9:34:46 PM | ^^^^ WTF has he been smoking in his PIPE? ^^^^^^
who is this
B.ig
D.ork
J.erk ?
and what is he doing in the single parents smoking pot thread if he isn't one?
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Posted: 8/19/2006 10:17:07 PM | Oh, I want to play too...
B.eligerant
D.onkey
J.udge of all posters
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Posted: 8/19/2006 11:50:29 PM | lol so look what fell out of the tree's again,
listen BDJ , why do you always feel it necessary to use my name like you know me, like you know anything about anything or anyone, so let me spell it out for ya,, you are not a friend of mine, to me you are just some lonely little dude from nowhere-ville USA,, you have no knowledge of pot smoking all you can do is spend countless hours looking up stupid stats and posting like you know what you are talking about because you just googled some info, you have no real thoughts of your own, your an idiot plain and simple,, you lack any skills or personal experience that would be of any value in this thread, or for that matter these forums, get a life dude and leave me out of your stupid comments,
now i am off to smoke a fatty in the garage because my kids are well fed and fast asleep, and there is nothing wrong with that
RIVER GIRL unless you wear the same outfit all the time by your profile pics it looks like you are drinking a beer with your kid around so practice what you preach, getting high on beer or pot around kids is not a good thing,
kids can really harsh your mellow
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Posted: 8/20/2006 12:40:36 AM | omg not everybody in Maryland is that stoopit. Anyone else hear the dueling banjos from the movie 'Deliverance' when you read his posts?
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Posted: 8/20/2006 7:03:45 AM | Yes Wrong-Guy fret not, even your personal emails will never make you the caliber of someone I would befriend. Also with the admitting of being a daily pothead wouldn't even let you or your other phoney profiles operate a $17/hour leaf rake for me.
While you choose whatever profile to use( I like the new one in Maryland LMAO@U), you speak loud and clear out of the same orifice...again...LMAO@U
to me you are just some lonely little dude from nowhere-ville USA,, you have no knowledge of pot smoking all
Side Note: Wrong-Guy I am within a 2 hour drive of more people then most likely live in ALL of Canada.
Yes, not being a pot smoker, my first hand stats are very limited. Since you like to google you can read my first hand stats. Try Mike Allen august 19th,1986...Essex Maryland. When a guy with pot and a bong in his truck crossed the line, and hit head-on and killed 2 teenagers fresh out of HS. My cousin and her boyfriend. Pothead murder received 10 years 5 suspended, and in the last 2 decades has been in and out of jail for other possession charges.
Then try Ricky Gates, Chase Maryland 1/4/1987 train wreck that blocked the only road into the same families neighborhood for 2 days while an AMTRAK train killed 15 people, 2 needed amputations to be removed and over 150 SERIOUS hurt. Ricky the Engineer seemed almost boasting as he told news papers, Time and Newsweek magazines about it was only a little bit of pot, and he smoked a Jay just hours before. I was personally there when he told the tv show 48 hours how " Everyone smokes a little pot", and cried about it being unfair he was the ONLY one that received Prison time. 5 years for each of the 15 deaths.. RAN CONCURRENTLY... (For you potheads that means all the sentences were together..total 5 years)
Try another APG (Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Harford County Maryland) Summer of 1983 while working with construction company clearing woods to extended Government plane runway a bulldozer operator dumped a log on a worker that crushed his skull, and later showed to be positive for marijuana.
Do I need to go into more personal first hand stories of you potheads?????
Here's BDJ stats... ....
While I have been in a supervisors position most of my life, and also owned a rather dangerous business (Google my line of work and see how many people kill themselves or OTHERS) for almost 15 years now with State and Federal contracts, most serious injury on job site, back and forth on the road, or at the shop has been a few stitches here and there...
Hummmmmmmmmmmm........Wonder if NOT hiring pot smokers, and firing then if I so much as find them around the stuff ( Even " OFF" the clock ) has anything to do with my stats????????
While you freely admit to "Smoking your Fatty" late every night in the garage, sadly you are one of these A@@holes still high in the morning in the real world putting others in danger, while you snivel about looking for your third marriage.
For the other potheads that say they twist one up ONLY in the safety of their own home......PLEEEEEEZE. Just more lies you are telling the rest of the drug free world and yourselves.
That Wrong-Guy is not a Sunday Morning Sermon, just "Food for thought" .... try digesting this post when you get your Mary Jane Munchies
In closing glad to see you kids all came out to look like jerks in the forums on a Saturday night. Following me around on threads..(Now who needs a life???)
Submitted from a substance free mind.
BDJ
Kid cuts herself as she drops a glass getting a drink of milk/water out of bed, of trips down the steps....Oh-Oh,Wheres Single Dad??????......Out in the garage getting HIGH!
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Posted: 8/20/2006 7:08:21 AM | | Parents shouldn't be drinking or doing drugs when their kids are around, period. There could be a situation that arises where the Parents may need to deal with and make sound decisions and they can't do that stoned or drunk. | |
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Posted: 8/20/2006 9:03:27 AM | lol treeman your name really suits you because you always go way out on a limb with every post, your posts make me think your on something much stronger than pot, maybe even some sort of birth defect,
this thread is about parents smoking pot, not about people who operate vehicles while pulling on a bong, you always go to the extreme when your trying to make yet another long winded pointless post, there are many on this post who do smoke pot and just as many who don't, but only a few real dumb a$$holes such as yourself, still high in the morning lmao, that statement in itself proves my point about you, you always go on and on about your great accomplishments, i have never read anyone else in these forums who blows there own horn as much as you, just once try to say something you thought of, with all your worldly experience you leave a reader thinking your over a hundred years old,lol
now on topic, smoking a joint at the end of the day or even in the afternoon when my kids aren't anywhere around is my choice , i don't get them high i don't sit and giggle uncontrollably (unless of course i am reading your posts) i have never put the turkey in the crib or the baby in the oven, smoking pot is just something i do, and nothing you say can change that so just deal with it,
CRANE MAN you make a good point, and i think you are right in what you say, its good to see that you included drinking also, shows you have an opinion and i respect that
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:10:15 AM | tree stumpy
Do you ever READ anyone's posts?
I read your posts & they seem to be just flames and nothing else that beget posts like the one I am typing right now!
Are you really so closed minded about "everything" and not able to ever type an original thought ?
Do you ever answer any questions or make a statement without a google answer?
To accuse someone of having multiple personalities-profiles (re the profile comment) where does that come from? Who would think of that unless they do it themselves?
That person from Maryland is probably not to happy to be assumed they are insignificant-non existent - so their post doesn't count?
I am real and a person from BC and I can also vouch for get REEL is a real person from BC too - I have met her! and she sure doesn't look like a pot head "guy" from Winterpeg!
Gawd I hate to have to respond to your BS - but man <--- good name) I just had to cause
I use to think you were mean but not anymore .................
....................................................you are soooooo just plain RUDE !
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:37:40 AM | ^^^Here's an orginal thought^^^^
All my own.... Your post here is an A Number 1 reason you should not get HIGH.
What was all that gribberish and paranoia?? All the riddles.???
SO SO much information about all these other profiles???? Interesting at best. Such a need to come on here and put out ALL this other info about other profiles, as to talk FOR them...
In fact i don't think anybody cares how many FAKE (or not fake) profiles there are..Chrips do a thread search....Tons of them are found out about here as well as some you can so a search and find them on different sites.
Still interesting...and I stand behind my "Orginal Thought" Lay off the pot, and whatever other drugs you maybe using.... it shows....
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Posted: 8/20/2006 10:51:02 AM | here let me be MORE clear for you..in your words
SO SO much information about all these other profiles???? Interesting at best. Such a need to come on here and put out ALL this other info about other profiles, as to talk FOR them...
here are YOUR words .... as you seem to forget what you post ....
wouldn't even let you or your other phoney profiles operate a $17/hour leaf rake for me.
While you choose whatever profile to use( I like the new one in Maryland LMAO@U), you speak loud and clear out of the same orifice...again...LMAO@U
that ^^^ is what I responded to (ALexa1981 - you just made a new freind)
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What was all that gribberish and paranoia?? All the riddles.???
Who is high here ? (or have you forgotten your Lithium this morning Patty?)...what I posted was pretty clear and no nonsense and no riddles - - what kind of jesters dance in your head?
and this comment about me ?????
Still interesting...and I stand behind my "Orginal Thought" Lay off the pot, and whatever other drugs you maybe using.... it shows....
are you ever daft (B.arron D.aft J.ester)....If you ever read any of my posts on this you would know I have stated I have zero tolerance for pot in my home and I don't do drugs! goes to show you are incapable of absorbing even the smallest posts with out your finger on your google | |
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