| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:31:24 PM | How I enjoy human emotion enraged by fear. Crossdressing is generally associated with a 'Transvestite fetish' first discovered by Freud and well documented in Psychological transcripts. It is also well recognized by the psychological community and is again associated with mental disorders. I believe it was an axis form of psychological disorder.
Now unless you have anything that resembles an intelligent comment to make then perhaps you should play with your barbies and find new styles that would be fashionable for your crossdressing friends.
In regards to Jim, he knows I would not belabour a point had I not have an 'ace in the hole' card to play. I do believe my crossdressing friend is holding out on some pertinent information. I do expect denial as that is a trademark of a person who feels shame for a deviant lifestyle. I do hope he feels inclined to share as it is quite illuminating.
I hope he provides this to the good people of POF as it is extremely important to this topic and the main reason I take my stance.
OT: I retain my stance and all opinions are on a generalized platform not reflecting any single individual but rather a lifestyle. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:37:46 PM | "deviant lifestyle" that is just your opinion and a close minded one at that. I believe our friend has sent some very strong information on crossdressing. And where do you keep thinking I have BARBIE DOLLS??? What's up with that??? Or you just trolling for fun?
"enraged by fear" it is not I who has a fear of people who are different....
You are boring me with your close minded comments, There is nothing wrong if people want to cross dress. I believe the THREAD is not about what you THINK of crossdressers but "WOULD YOU CONSIDER DATING A CROSSDRESSER" so get back to the topic. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:50:38 PM | Several of us have banned together and are going to report you to POF for abuse of the forums. Your continued harassment will get you banned. This will serve as your only warning. You have some serious mental problems pal and need help.
Once again I challenge you to provide proof of your nonsense about cross dressing being a mental disorder. You are challenged by an expert since I have studied the issue for most of my adult life. Your BS comes out of your imagination coupled with perhaps the Jerry Springer show. That is about your level. You have nothing to back up your garbage and hatred for anyone different from you. Come to think of it, we are all very different from you. All of us have a life. You need one! LMAO
You get off on being negative and causing many good people to get provoked by your boring nonsense. You do not provoke me. You make me sick. You make me actually feel sorry for you. Not to mention that your total ignorance on any alternate lifestyle is so damn laughable!
We don't care what your stance is on any topic! Who could care about someone so full of hate.
Now we know you would not date a cross dresser.
But we wonder...do you date at all? When was the last time a girl even kissed you? Or is your left or right hand the only date you can get?
Of course, no self respecting cross dresser would date you either if they were bi or gay. Most CD's have much better taste! lol | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:53:37 PM |  JIM JIM he's my man... and that is in a suit OR a dress!!! 
Good now maybe we can get back to the topic at hand...
With that question, How many people would actually know ahead of time that the person they are going to go out with was a crossdresser since most people to not make it public? If I was already dating a person, and really cared for them.. and then they came clean with me and said they were a CD, I don't think I could be shallow enough to tell them.. "OK.. you doing that makes me not like you anymore"... no way... I'm not sure however I could date them when they were dressed up.. but I've never been in that situation. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/29/2006 11:56:58 PM | The topic is 'Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser' and a crossdresser is a terminology. It is an open-ended term and YOUR terminology does not define crossdressing as such. I have a terminology as well and it is shared by the psychological community. Now unless you have done independant studies that make your claim valid then perhaps you should address the topic as opposed to myself.
The fact that your limited mind can induce signals that in turn cause your larnyx to produce what ever sounds constitute independant thought to you does not nor will it ever justify credibility. Furthermore, until you can fully explain Quantum mechanics on any level, even just tell me the 4 quantum #'s, or even a shred of basic physics. Then never assume you are even anywhere near the level of intellect I am .
You irritate me at best and your incessant need to 'protect' only makes me consider you a tool to be used to prove my point. It is also extremely facetious of you to believe that your opinion reflects that of every individual who partakes in this discussion.
Point blank, if you dont like my opinion then do not listen. You have no right to limit freespeech nor do you have any power to decide what is right and what defines Crossdressing.
OT: I retain my stance and only use the following words to protect and reinforce my opinion on the topic and my right to Freespeech. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:09:12 AM | | I think dating a CD would be fine, but does this question also ask would you go out with the person while they were "dressed"??? Hmmm.. I think it would depend where we were at. In the little town where I live... nooooooooooooooooooooooooo... only because I don't think it would be healthy for either of us.. LOL | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:11:30 AM | Not to worry Mesnafugal. I confessed to you long before we had our first date. And I sure do not want to go out with you dressed in feminine clothes! That's for us to share at home alone or among good close friends that we both know and enjoy. Ones that have a life, and do not put down others for their own sick pleasure. You know...happy fun people that are not homophobic or have issues with their own sexuality. Gee, I can think of one person on this page that won't be invited to visit us. He stands on his position... and sadly... stands very alone.
And is our POF wedding still on Mistress? And have you decided who is wearing the white wedding gown yet? LMAO! | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:16:41 AM |
Current opinions of European North American psycho-socio professionals today is that transgendered behavior is manifested in two basic forms of mental disorder. This opinion is reflected in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM III-R) of the American Psychiatric Association.
First, placement of transgendered behavior in this document tends to lead one to the conclusion that transgendered behavior is a mental disorder; implying some sort of mental disfunction or deficiency.
Second, this manual defines two narrowly-focused types of transgendered behavior:
fetishistic transvestism, and
gender dysphoric transsexualism.
Regardless of the psychiatric or psychological school of thought that is applied to any research, every interpretation is made in the DSM III-R frame of reference. In other words, the veracity of DSM III-R is accepted as fact.
302.3 Transvestic Fetishism
Let's begin with Transvestic Fetishism, whose diagnostic criteria [APA94] are as follows:
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, in a heterosexual male, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving cross-dressing.
B. The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
Specify if: With Gender Dysphoria: if the person has persistent discomfort with gender role or identity. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:17:51 AM |
I think dating a CD would be fine, but does this question also ask would you go out with the person while they were "dressed"??? Hmmm.. I think it would depend where we were at. In the little town where I live... nooooooooooooooooooooooooo... only because I don't think it would be healthy for either of us.. LOL
Again not to worry. Yes I have been out dressed. What a rush that is! But that has only been to clubs where crossdressers are very welcome and made to feel at home. I have never and would never subject people to my cross dressing in public or private that I might make feel uncomfortable or embarrassed. Nor do I wish to embarrass myself. I am not that open about it. I am very considerate of people's feelings about what it is I do. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:22:15 AM | A. Over a period of at least 6 months, in a heterosexual male, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving cross-dressing.
B. The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
Specify if: With Gender Dysphoria: if the person has persistent discomfort with gender role or identity.
This is transvestic behavior. A person who ONLY crossdresses but is only interested in the oposite sex AND does not have any desire to become the oposite sex is NOT a transvestite!! What do you know understand about this? You are making a point that is not a point at all!
AND STICK TO THE THREAD TOPIC!!!!
oh.. I"m sorry. there goes those silly emotions based on all this fear I have... Now, would you mind very much sticking to the thread topic as we are trying to do. You are doing nothing more than trolling. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:24:55 AM | From the same page our non expert homophobic idiot got his information... but failed to report that what he said is the old out-dated conclusions.
Further down the page the modern conclusion proves all of his lies, hate and statements to be false!
I quote: Summary
Our examination of the present classification of Transvestic Fetishism and Gender Identity Disorder has raised substantive questions with disturbing answers. We believe that there is ample evidence to review the policy of gender pathologization with a reasoned dialogue inclusive of the gender community and socio-cultural researchers and open to the possibility that difference is not disease, nonconformity is not pathology, and uniqueness is not illness.
Half truths are the same as out and out lies. Now you know what freespeech really is all about. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:26:30 AM | | Well that was something I did wonder about. If I didn't want you to have dinner with my family dressed FEM would that mean I was wrong for not wanting you to express yourself or is this something that CD's are only comfortable in doing behind closed doors or like you said at a club where it is accepted. It would seem that people who CD and have the need to go out in public is almost like being an exabitionist(?)... I know it would not be accepted in a small town like where I live, yet somewhere else like Atlanta or Miami you could do it much easier. Are you sure I can't wear some of your makeup??? LOL | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:43:53 AM | Again I would never put myself in a place to embarrass or cause anyone to be uncomfortable being around me. Yes, that means when family comes around as well as friends and acquaintances there would never be any sign of my feminine side. That to me is as private as what we might do in the bedroom sexually. We don't share that with family do we? lol
So no, you would not be wrong at all! In fact it would be me that would be very wrong to even suggest it if I was crazy enough to do it...or brave enough! lol
I don't think it is being an exhibitionist anymore then when you might want to dress up in a nice evening gown and go out to dinner and drinks afterward. My guess is you would just feel good about the way you look and feel. I mean, I think the soft silky fabric of your dress, lingerie and hose over freshly shaved legs make you feel beautiful and sexy. Well, that is about the same feeling for a cross dresser. Not much different form what a woman might feel. We just want to go out and feel as sexy and beautiful in public as you might. But again...for me it was and always will be in places that cater to and accept us. never at the local bar and grill! Call me chicken, or smart, or just good common horse sense! lol
As far as you wearing anything of mine..No problem! Look how your wardrobe just doubled! As well as your shades of all sorts of makeup! In fact, I'd give you a make-over myself! I'm pretty darn good at it. *wink* | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 12:57:01 AM | http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingposts141520.aspx
Now this was quite an interesting read, perhaps you would like to read it whilst you are on vacation.
I do so enjoy watching other's getting fired up in defence of crossdressing. Actually I chose that particular article for a reason. It brings me one step closer to my proof and the reason i chose to pick this battle. Now why would I pick an article that is in favour of Crossdressing as opposed to the many that are firmly against? Hell why even take a stance against it?
I literally pissed myself laughing watching as my living proof plays out in front of me. A crossdresser is a sexual deviant and is suffering from mental disorders associated with sexual confusion. Jim was part of a study awhile ago and perhaps he will share his experiences with you lovely people. Dont worry dismiss it now but human nature will eat at you in the back of your mind.
Ask yourself a question, why would I pick something so assinine to debate and do so with people who are oh so predictable? I thought you would of clued in when it was so easy to find the article and it was so blatantly obvious that i left something out.
I'll give you a little tip sweetheart, intelligence is applied not read. Also I chose to mention Quantum mechanics because in about 18 monthes something is going to happen in that field that will redefine universal rules as we know them. Perhaps Mr Einstein was right and maybe the answer is on a 'String'. LMAO this was fun that's for sure. Like a puppet show but my beer's gone and so is the novelty. Do not address me ever again as you are no where near my equal in any way, shape, or form.
OT: same as before. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:00:33 AM | Thanks Cactus.
You are an alright guy in my book. Good to see someone that has common sense and understanding around here. This jerk can attack me all he wants. He will lose as he has in the past. But when he attacks my friends, he is messing with the wrong guy. Mesnafugla is with out a doubt one of my best friends here. ASnyone that reads her posts in all forums has got to just love her! .....or else! lol
I love her. She is so open, honest and very real. I just know I'm gonna marry her! 
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:02:23 AM | | I'm afraid it is YOU who are not my equal. And I think we had moved on to the TOPIC at hand until you the homophobic butt wipe came back trying to stir things up because YOU do not obviously have a life. Instead of having a normal life you have to try and pick "battles" as you put it with people for no reason. You are a very sad person, or should I say PATHETIC, yes I think that suits you better. Now.. YOU do not address me again or I will report you. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:05:49 AM | You are right about only one thing. I am not your equal in any way shape or form. I could not stoop that low!
I also do not have the ego and sick mind you have for wanting to stir up trouble everywhere you go.
As far as this topic goes, I'll take you on anyday. I'll bring facts and not your lies and half truths. | |
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| Have You or would You consider Dating a Crossdresser
Posted: 3/30/2006 1:10:48 AM | | I'm going to just ignore him. He is no fun Jim and we're here to enjoy good conversations and hopefully I am learning more about different people. I really do get alot of insite about how different people live by these threads. Its wonderful to see how other people think, and how their opinions differ so much. | |
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