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kmhstx
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Joined: 8/23/2005
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| should i answer yes to do i use drugs?
Posted: 12/23/2005 11:21:48 AM | "If you smoke weed occasionally and decide to answer NO...and then tell your date afterwards the above reasoning behind it...90% of people would be OK with that...the other 10% are just fanatical morons who you don't want in your life anyways...."
So the fact that I live a drug free lifestyle (always have),,other that perhaps drinking 3 times a year...no caffeine, no other mind altering substances...I still have fun, and find healthy ways to relax, and de stress. And I would like my partener in life to have similar values, because that is how I would like to raise children...that makes me a fanatical moron. Oh well I guess it does.
I seriously think there is something flawed in that reasoning...sure I would still be friends with a person who smokes pot....lol I wouldn't even ask, I wouldn't care to know really. But if I want to enter into a longterm serious relationship..then I care..and I would not date someone who is a pot smoker. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 12:24:28 PM | ^^^^
I'm talking about the people who drink on the weekends but dismiss someone who smokes pot on the weekends as being a bad person who is no match for them....your situation is a little different if you only drink 3 times a year.....
Here's an interesting paralel between alcohol and natural (illegal) drugs....
Natural drugs open parts of your mind you don't use so you can gain a different perspective on things...stuff like weed and mushrooms, anything that is grown....
Alcohol just shuts your mind off completely...now which one do you think is more detrimental to society? | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 5:30:18 PM |
Natural drugs open parts of your mind you don't use so you can gain a different perspective on things...stuff like weed and mushrooms, anything that is grown....
Alcohol just shuts your mind off completely...now which one do you think is more detrimental to society?
this doesn't quite explain the laziness that effects pot smokers...
maybe it's because they're too busy sitting on the couch dreaming up the perfect bong.
i used to be chronic...now i stay away from it. it's a deal-breaker in a date...but that's just personal preference.
i'm all for the legalization of it...tax the crap out of it, and put at least a few dealers out of business. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:16:40 PM | >>Alcohol just shuts your mind off completely...now which one do you think is more detrimental to society?
I've used both. Still drink sometimes, haven't smoked pot in over a decade.
My informed opinion is that alcohol is more harmful, both to the individual and to society.
>>this doesn't quite explain the laziness that effects pot smokers...
A myth, IMHO. I held down a full time job and even earned some college credits in my pot smoking days. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:24:48 PM | >>A myth, IMHO. I held down a full time job and even earned some college credits in my pot smoking days.
And one of my smoking buddies at the time was a full time college student who got good grades and ran the school newspaper. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:28:55 PM | The thing that concerns me is, the cultural brainwashing that has occurred in north america. The people that have admitted they smoke pot have been compared to serial killers and monsters that would use their position as a parent to corrupt children. It is a very sad state of affairs with no end in sight.
There are a lot of addictions in this world, many are not physical, like “excessive”; gambling, porn, chat room, forums, video games compulsive eating or, cell phone usage. I've recently witnessed the mother of the bride answer her cell phone during her daughter's wedding and go out side to continue her conversation (a casual one) missing the remainder of their vows (not on TV, I was there).
Statistically, people that talk on their cell phone while driving are causing as many accidents as drunk drivers and, have proven to be just as unaware of their effect on people. Nine times out of ten when someone does something stupid in rush-hour traffic or causes an accident I consistently see they are on the phone. Just like someone with any other addiction they think the statistics, if they are even aware, excludes them because they are in control and will tell you what a great driver they are. Most, that I've seen, that cause an accident behind them, that are not hit themselves, continue on their way, doubtfully even aware of destruction they are leaving in their wake was their fault.
The problem is not one of use or, even abuse, its one where broad sweeping statements and categorizations do not accurately portray any one group or individual. For all the people that on occasion, have used or, use marijuana to be lumped in with abusive personalities as though none of them exercises self control or moderation is a travesty. The propaganda war on drugs is perpetrated more to garner and control the constituents voting blocks by the politicians than any attempt at a real solution. More lives and families are being destroyed for the sake of election headlines and political expediency than the occasional use of marijuana by successful members of the community practicing this personal act of civil disobedience in their own home. The irrational fear instilled in people for political control has turned this issue into the same type of intolerance displayed for religious, ethnic, lifestyle, and gender discrimination much to the detriment of our society.
To answer honestly, in my opinion, do you use drugs, does help you to distance your self from people that display these irrational prejudices. The down side is people that on occasion engage in recreational use of marijuana and admit it, can and do suffer both socially and economically if their preference becomes common knowledge. As mentioned in a prior post I do not believe the question is specific enough to delineate between a heroin addict in denial and a limited recreational user of marijuana.
I do not believe a “thinking” parent exposes their kids to drugs or other abuse behavior, violence, adult entertainment or negative stimulus of any type if they can prevent it. In my home, when we had kids, we provided fresh fruit, vegetables, sugar free none carbonated drinks and juices for snacks. We did not keep or, use alcohol in our children’s presents. My DSS system allowed me to control channels and the programming content available to my kids even in my absence.
I am unfortunately a tobacco addict; I choose to smoke outside (never in the car) to eliminate second hand smoke from my children’s environment. I explained to my kids that when I started smoked 35 years ago the facts were not in on tobacco. I have been trying to quite and have made some improvements but, am not there yet. I’ve reduce my smoking by 66% and smoke a light filtered tobacco now rather than the camel none filters I smoked for years, No excuse sure I’m a little weak on this point but, did you know that nicotine is more addictive than any other drug?
I do not judge people by what they do, rather by who they are. I must admit the stereo typical pot smoker that has no drive, motivation or, goals does not move in my social circles, how could they, I’m successful. Their brains have all been destroyed by the deadly killer weed that leads to heroin addiction lawlessness and anarchy. I know this because the media and, politicians have all told me so, and they wouldn’t lie….. Would they?
Remember our own government was smuggling cocaine (agents in government sponsored air operations) into our country in exchange for the financial resources to smuggle weapons to insurgence in third world countries to topple regimes that are not politically aligned with our policies in the name of western security. The same hypocrites are illegally spying on the citizenry and accosting 84 year old grandmothers from Iowa in airports rather than be accused of profiling to better focus our tax dollars on actually catching real terrorist.
I have notice in numerous threads that there is much intolerance here, if someone does not agree with the vocal majority they are burned in effigy rather than responded to with cognitively engaging well thought out arguments. No, not everyone fames disinters, some don’t even clap the flamers on the shoulder with encouragement for their diatribe, but enough do that it is a shame. Why get the facts when emotion and drum beating works so well. For the rest of us on both sides of any issue we tolerate a lot of short sightedness in the name of freedom.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone on Plenty of fish!  | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:45:39 PM | >> I must admit the stereo typical pot smoker that has no drive, motivation or, goals does not move in my social circles, how could they, I’m successful. Their brains have all been destroyed by the deadly killer weed that leads to heroin addiction lawlessness and anarchy.
LOL, yeah, I personally know at least two former pot smokers who are now doctors. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:47:33 PM | Four, if you count PhD's as doctors.
One of them still smokes it.
Two DVM's. one PhD in chemistry, and one PhD in art history.
The doctor of art history is the one who still smokes it. | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 2:27:42 PM | | Lazy of pot smoking my ass. I have a friend of mine that smoke post morning noon and night and is graduating from university of the pacific with a 4.0 works 8 hours a day and is on the swim tea...LAZY WEED SMOKER MY ASS...Its this crap that makes me pissed...All the myths about weed. | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 2:30:46 PM | | Oh ya and my good friend who is going to law school right now that smokes weed like a chimney...Works 8 hours a day too. Lazy my ass. Where do people get this shit | |
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Posted: 12/24/2005 2:37:00 PM | | The really funny thing is, that the federal government has been running herroine through wallstreet for YEARS and weed is against the law. The ONLY reason the federal government wont legalize weed is because it benefits THEM when its against the law. | |
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Tinkle
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Joined: 12/14/2005
Msg: 88 | |
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| should i answer yes to do i use drugs?
Posted: 12/24/2005 9:09:42 PM | @The ONLY reason the federal government wont legalize weed is because it benefits THEM when it’s against the law.@
I have to agree and here are the reasons; there are really 3-5 primary reasons.
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The liquor lobby currently has a monopoly on recreational drugs and will not agree to legalization unless their distribution network is used and they have control.
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The tobacco industry feels that with the decline in tobacco use and their current infrastructure they are the logical choice to bring this product to market using their distribution network allowing them the control
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The drug companies feel that this is their opportunity to bring a new drug to market and with their portfolio feel only they are qualified to produce a constant potency. They would use their current distribution network to control the industry and the associated profits.
Impact:
There are doctors that regularly proscribe drugs unnecessarily to patents they know will use the drugs for recreational purposes would suffer a decline of office visits within their practice. If marijuana were legal there would be a decline in prescription drugs distribution for recreational use that would affect the medical and drug industries.
Legalization would also represent a sharp decline in the need for lawyers (check the percentages of incarceration for non violent drug infractions its about 60%).
The criminal justice system would allow law enforcement to focus on crimes that have a greater impact on society as a whole. Inmates released to alleviate over crowding could remain in prison for the duration of their sentences and even allow for stronger sentencing for rapist murderers and other violent offenders that are now paroled early only to repeat their crimes against society.
Conclusion:
The drug companies Tobacco industry and Beverage producers all recognize that unless they can gain exclusive control of the potential market the decline in their own market share among recreational users would significantly negatively impact their profit margin and market share. All three feel that to allow any of the other 2 to achieve legalization and subsequent distribution and market control is UN acceptable.
The information on their political maneuvering, studies they have performed and market plans is not a secret and is available if you just dig deep enough. The benefit to the politicians is to keep the 3 industries courting them and poring money into their coffers in order to maintain control. The benefit to these lobbies is they maintain their ecconomic control of the government by controling their funding they control the legislation of their respective industries.
There would be a significant decline in convictions of for drug related crimes.
With these 3 powerful lobbies in control of soft moneys and politial packs they each have an insurmountable level of infulance over legislation. Any 2 would block the 3rd from attaining control of this product and bringing it to market due to the impact on their market share and control of the legislation that regulates thier current markets. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2005 11:05:16 AM | 20-20 & 60 minutes to name a few, also referance a book called "THE DEA" written by an retired agent that loved his agency but, was very frustrated by the way their hands were tied and why. They were attempting enforcement with little or no resources compaired to the task because it was lip service. Thier lack of support and funding caused the death of numerous agents that he was a little bitter about.
There have been numerous articles on the tobacco industries plans complete with insider documents released detailing their already mapped out marketing plans. They have even pruchased or placed options on land optimal for use to grow weed.
I dont conciider it a conspiracy so much as self interest on the parties involved.
The protection of their power, markets and war chest is not an unusual step. It was done in the middle east with oil OPEC wich is nothing more than a price club! for market protection. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2006 6:59:06 AM | I put prefer not to say. Then if a person contacted me I would check out their profile and if they had in their preferences "must not do drugs" then I would email them back tell them I wasn't for them and wish them good luck.
Here's a warning though...I had a horrible response from one guy who emailed me back with "YOU LOSER". I felt violated and was genuinly scared or this person. What I didn't think of...until later is this guy is very abusive and thank god I didn't have anything to do with him because he probably physically abused his ex ..probably the reason he's single. Just wanted to let you know about my experience because you may come across people like that.
Question, when you meet someone in a bar do you say "hi, my name is ......and I smoke pot?" If not...then use "prefer not to say". Anyone that's been on here for a while knows that prefer not to say means yes or maybe anyway.
And FYI...for all those who so strongly object to smoking pot but drink alcohol....alcohol is a drug so if you drink you should be putting yes to the "do you do drugs" question too. I've seen more many more lives distroyed by alcohol than by pot.
"Prefer not to say" is the way to go girl but beware of, as someone stated above" the fanatics" like the one I was verbally acosted by. They can be pretty nasty.
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Posted: 3/14/2006 9:39:32 AM | Hi sweetandsassy77
The answer to that is a resounding YES. Would you rather the person found out later, and risk thinking you were being deceptive?.
I went on a date with one girl who kept running off to the bathroom every half hour or so.
What she didn't realize is that she still reeked of pot. After the third time I simply told her she needed to grow up, and try a little honesty. I promptly left.
This is very common, and though it may reduce your "dating base", you'll be much better off with the people you do hookup with, as there will be no false realities or expectations.
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Posted: 3/14/2006 9:41:33 AM | Hey Married_Guy
What exactly did your replies have to do with her question?
Sounds like it should be more of a political thread than dating/love advice.
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Posted: 3/14/2006 11:07:29 AM | Its a bit of a loaded question which doesn't really have a proper range of answers. I had a puff at a Xmas party. I might have another at a mid-summer party. I think I have a joint in my toolbox if its not moldy by now. Its not a big part of my life so I say, "No." I think a "Yes" to that question means its an important aspect of your life. Like the drinking question. When I see "More than three times a week" I assume that person is a party animal or alcoholic. When I can afford it, I like to buy a six-pack of beer. A nice dark one. It'll last me a week or two, at a rate of one beer every day or two. I don't think its the intent of the question for me to say I'm a frequent drinker. Does a beer a day for four days a week mean I drink frequently? Pots a little different because I don't think you can smoke just a bit without it affecting your behaviour to a noticable degree. But frequency of use would be the intent, I think.
For me its a matter of "Do you do something enough that I would find your behaviour objectionable?" Someone who drinks a six-pack in an evening once or twice a week would show a more positive, appealing answer to the drinking question than someone like myself who answered literally. Sneaking around to have a puff in the bathroom is a bad thing, though.
One girl's profile she answers "No", then asks in her profile:"Does anyone ever say yes to the drugs question?" A subtle comment like that in your profile would be a suitable flag for those who don't tolerate it at all without gatting yourself passed by as a potential cocaine user. | |
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Posted: 3/14/2006 11:19:28 AM | | It's really a yes or no answer - if I smoke pot or use any other illegal drugs, the answer is 'yes.' But it's a matter of personal perspective, attitude, and honesty level. If I still smoked ganga (I got an economics degree from Penn State Univ. pretty much stoned all the time), I probably would not identify that on here. It's a public site and I'd perceive my pot use as totally private - even to a potential 'date.' I'd bring it up with her if it needed to be brought up (e.g, if she asked me, if it would impinge on what we are doing or have planned, etc). So I can only speak for myself regarding the OP. Should you? I DON'T KNOW - IT'S UP TO YOU! Best wishes on your quest from South Florida, Ben. | |
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Cybury
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Joined: 12/13/2005
Msg: 97 | |
| should i answer yes to do i use drugs?
Posted: 3/14/2006 11:26:14 AM | If you were canadian I would say no but being american and suffering under the rule of that idiot Regan then the two stooges george & george I would say its probably dangerous to admit that you burn
stick with their drug of choice... booze since we all know that its harmless
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Posted: 3/14/2006 11:30:44 AM | Then yes.
If it had been a matter of ever having tried drugs, then I'd say you could pick no. But if you use drugs even semi-regularly, picking no would be a lie.
A myth, IMHO. I held down a full time job and even earned some college credits in my pot smoking days.
You two are an anomaly. Kudos, though. I have yet to meet a pot smoker (of the regular variety) who was not sloth-like in both appearance and manner. You are proof of the existence of non-sloth potheads, certainly, but you and your pal are special and unique flowers in that capacity. I certainly wish for more of your kind. | |
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Cybury
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Joined: 12/13/2005
Msg: 99 | |
| should i answer yes to do i use drugs?
Posted: 3/14/2006 1:11:37 PM | @lux_interior
Better count me in as another person who has smoked pot for many years and yet managed a college degree and a relativly successfull career.. as a matter of fact I know more people that are likewise than the stereotype pot head that you expect
loosers are loosers ... the pot use is only a sympton.. loosers also drink booze.. use harder drugs smoke cigarettes etc I have also met many people that have never smoked pot, have the brain of a gnat and are useless at anything in life that they do
so puhleeze stop sterotyping us | |
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Posted: 3/14/2006 3:05:22 PM | It's nice to see this thread...
I too occasionally smoke pot which is why I put "socially" but it seems like hardly anyone else has done the same thing...
yeah, yeah...I know it's illegal...but to me it is no more harmful than alcohol
It is addictive and it is a drug...but I still like it.
In Canada you cannot be arrested for admitting to smoking weed. In fact, this is not an offence at all. However, "posession", "cultivating" or "trafficking" are offences.
So, as long as you don't have any on you, you can walk up to your friendly neighbourhood police officer and admit to your weed use and you cannot be charged with anything.
Oh, but if you are high at the time it may not be a good idea...you could still be charged with public intoxication. | |
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