| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 2:01:22 AM | All children should be protected from perverts .
Perverts should be sent to prison and kept there on the first offence on plain,basic food and no TV etc.No special concessions like day release and visiting rights.
Prison for life for that first offence.We should not compromise on protecting the young.
Further...age of consent should be raised to 18 .Its down to 16 here .In my parents day it was 21 and thats why you didn't hear of this kind of thing or unmarried mothers etc.
The LAW on consent should be upheld STRONGLY .
I really have no sympathy with the pervert and justice system as it stands at the moment.
What a disgrace to us all.
There is too much consideration given to the pervert...NONE to the CHILD. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 6:51:23 AM | unfortunately many children are being raised by these perverts,...
so how do you help protect the children you don't even know about,...
who may grow up to pepetuate what they knew growing up,...
and a life sentence is good,..but unfortuately every state has a different idea of what that is and for many life does not mean until they stop breathing permanently,...
in many states life is 20 years,..with mandatory parole after serving 1/3 rd,..which translates to 7 and a third years behind bars,....
that's not my idea of life,....and at that some states have released them even earlier because of the prison overpopulation,...so they have been known to be released as early as a few years,....how is that justice and what message is that sending to the abused,...
To me it looks like they aren't considered as too bad, on a scale of criminals...
it's offensive and putting the victim through even more emotionally speaking,....and if the punishment doesn't seem to consider it as THAT BAD, what message is it sending to the perpatrator,....
consider how many pedafiles were in such a small area as the gulf coast who were misplaced,...4500,... not taking into count the ones that did register as they were supposed to,...and if each one of these can in a lifetime abuse hundreds of children,...
you do the math and then see if this isn't something that needs to be considered seriously,.... | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 7:35:03 AM | I know loves....breaks your heart.....and don't forget all the smart alecs coming out of their tree to DEFEND,EXCUSE and basically CONDONE paedaphiles aka Peter Pan,recently.
I mean ....what does it take to convince some people??
Some people get swayed to close their eyes,ears and common sense just because someone is famous or of an ethnic group that you dare not accuse and the child is unable to articulate themselves or to gather information.DNA...............nay video the abuse...even as he is been abused and traumatised....so that he can present it in court later on.
God help us all. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 7:39:23 AM | That number (4500) was the number of people listed as sexual offenders, not pedophiles. Yes it is still a horrific number but, with todays sex crime laws alot of people that shouldn't be in this catagory are. In some states persons soliciting prostitutes are in this category, bad judgement yes, sexual offender not even close. This is also an area of law known for false accusations. I think if the definition of sexual predator was actually used for only those deserving it there may be a chance for a serious crackdown on them. People such as child molesters, rapists, child porn producers, etc are the ones deserving of this lable. Many others should simply be labled not quite bright. I looked up the sex offender list for where I live and the crimes they were convicted of, 4 out of 127 were actually what I would consider a possible threat to someones safety. To my suprise there were also quite a few women on the list. You are right though something needs to be done about actual sexual predators. I truly believe child molestors, rapists, and child porn producers should face terms at least as long as any murderer. As with all crime in America the big dogs are rarely the target of law enforcement. Can you remember the arrest of one child porn producer, I can't. I know there have been many arrested for down loading or recieving child porn in the mail. But as it is so easy to identify both the reciever and the source, what happened to the source? Why is the focus on an individual and not on the producer who is the instigator of the abuse? Yes both are criminal but who should be the focus?
It's a tough question made tougher by peoples willingness to lie and others willing to create crimes for prosecution. They first need to narrow the definition, and then raise the punishment. In the end what could possibly punish the perpetrators short of a tortured death. | |
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Posted: 10/19/2005 7:49:36 AM | I can't believe that anybody can produce child porn for any reason.Its gross.
Those people can and should be traced and tried and charged and locked away along with child rapists ,murderers and those who download or promote this type of porn.
Its totally sick and I am fed up of "liberals" going out of their way to protect these people.
Call it stupid if you want but my parents stopped us listening/ watching any Peter Pan stuff years ago. That was just our little protest against the whole sorry mess and I am more than ever adamant that if I see that face on TV.....it gets switched over pronto.
There are various other celebs that I don't think much of or suspicious of ....I switch over and will not buy any products of theirs or endorsed by them .Thats all I can do but I wish there was more.The powers that be should listen to the public on this issue.
If you can't protect your young...that is the downward slide to an uncivilised society.
Personally....I would have no complusion but to BOBBITT someone,if they ever tried it near to me. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 8:11:37 AM | Why can we never join together as a force to push for change. I Get your point lyny. I am sure that most of the people who were molested or raped as children would not want to relive the victimization as an adult by trying to go public. This makes joining together very hard. I will do some research and see if there is a way to do this without dragging any victims through the mud. Petitions might be good as long as people aren’t required to show up in court because they signed a petition.
One of the things that protects pedophiles is the fact that their victims are children. Children are more easily intimidated, when it happened to me I was told that my sister or mother would die if I told anyone. I believed it enough to not pursue it. Also the statute of limitations runs out before many of these children are old enough to finally stand up and say anything about it.
Thanks for your input lyny, I am feeling inspired and encouraged to do more about this.
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 10:04:03 AM | Maybe if I approach it as concerned citizens signing a petition rather than just us victims, more of the victims will be encouraged to sign. I will have to see what rights I have to gain support and what tools I can use.
I will have to get a lot of help though because I am afraid of dropping the ball.
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Posted: 10/19/2005 10:19:39 AM | | Chuck from a guy who is really sick and tired of hearing of these abuses, not only of children but of adults as well, I'm in. If I can help let me know. Sooner or later we have to do something useful about this. I can't even begin to tell you how much pain it causes me as a father to hear of children being abused. Many times I've just shut off the news cause I couldn't stand to hear of yet another case of abuse. It's sad that in so many states you can actually drop your kids off at even the local fire department without repercussion if you think you may abuse them, yet people keep them even when they hate them so. Something has to change. So many of us repeatedly say such criminals deserve no rights, hell I know we're the majority. But time and again it's the minority that stands up and protects them. I guess it's put up or shut up. I'm in. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 10:25:28 AM | Sounds good, this may take some time to get things together and I am no expert on the system. This would be a good way to gain a little more control over my life, even better than my original plans on how to deal with the guys who molested and raped me. I might need to start another thread to begin with. I also have web design skills and a website with plenty of space.
I also need another cup of coffee.
If anybody has ideas on how I should get started I am always open to suggestions. If I end up being a leader in any aspect of this I will do my best and I am a good follower as well.
Thanks for lighting a fire lyny. On a less formal note, you rock dude.
EDIT: I am searching now to see if a thread like the one I proposed has already been done.
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 11:04:46 AM | when you get your ducks lined up,...send Oprah an e-mail requesting a link from her site to yours, and offerring a direct link from yours to hers,...since she is right on the bandwagon with her own capture reward program she may just do it?
Doesn't cost anything to ask,....you might get further if you mention your personal reason for starting this up,...
also wouldn't it be nice to have a pettition like signing page of everyone who has ever gone through this to sign up,..I actually don't think a pettition of JUST victims has ever been created and that's part of the problem,...that for all the reasons previously mentioned,..no one truly knows just how many VICTIMS / SURVIVORS there are today,...coast to coast,... so you go get 'em Chuck,.... 
Ps there is nothing like taking controll to make you feel less like a victim,....and more like a survivor,....plus a little payback never hurt either,....  | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/19/2005 2:36:26 PM | Thanks Marita, that's what I am hoping for. I am trying to figure out a way to do this within the rules. POF doesn't want lobbying for protesting. I respect that, here is the quote.
NO LOBBYING FOR OTHERS TO PROTEST
A petition might fit under this as well. I will think of something. In the meantime I will be working on the website. I might need a bulletin board on the site to make it work.
I will get back to you guys on this.
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Posted: 10/19/2005 4:02:30 PM | Not sure if it has been mentioned, but you can go to this web site to have the pervs in your area mapped out. All you do is type in your address. If you click the flags their profile comes up, and tells you what offenses they have made. Pretty good tool. Very extensive. See who is living on your street.
MapSexOffenders.com | |
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Posted: 10/20/2005 10:47:46 AM | I posted earlier that I went to look at that websit dallasguy posted
and found my ex brother in law on there. The site would not let me see
who he molested until this morning, said it was down for repairs last night.
Come to find out it was a 15 year old boy. I then pulled up a search on the city
he lives in and he even admits it in an interview, saying that was when he was
drinking and drugging. wow
They are building a school a block from where he lives so he is being interviewed
and making comments about it, namely that he is not denying it.
20 years ago he married a woman with 5 kids. I thought that was kinda strange
since he didn't have any. I also did not know he was on drugs and as far as I know
allo that must have started after I divorced because I never heard a word about it
and I don't keep in touch with any of them.
I thought the family was goofy and dysfunctional, codependent.
Seems not only was I right but maybe lucky to be away from them and
all that. I don't think there is anything worse than someone who would molest or hurt
a child.
sad people do that kind of thing. really sad. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/21/2005 4:40:15 PM | That can be a problem with 'free' things on the internet (the pop ups). The site, I noticed (at least for my state) ties into the state registry that can easily be accessed. They are free from pop ups.
Interesting item in the Dallas paper today. Page 8B, Sex Offenders Halloween Lock-In:
Parker County has taken unusual steps to make sure sex offenders have no access to kids on Halloween night.
Mike Stack, probation director, said he fears a night filled with roaming kids could be a serious temptation for sex offenders, so nearly 50 probationers will be kept guarded Halloween night.
"We will have all our registered sex offenders that we supervise report to our office between 6 and 10 p.m.," Stack said.
So, while children walk the streets in search of candy and treats, the county will be keeping an eye on the parolees.
"Everyone will be isolated in one area so we can keep track of them," Stack said. (The story goes on...)
It guarantees nothing, but it is a pro-active move. Violators will be visited by someone in a familiar costume, er, uniform. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2005 4:58:27 PM |
That can be a problem with 'free' things on the internet (the pop ups). The site, I noticed (at least for my state) ties into the state registry that can easily be accessed. They are free from pop ups.
Excellent point; many states have web access right through their gov't sites. I would really recommend that, because this particular "free" site caused a real pain in the ass until I got it under control (ex: walk away from computer for 2 minutes and have over 30 windows up upon my return.) I'd avoid it, and I would definitely NOT recommend it to others. It is very unlikely that there is info on there that can't be accessed through your gov't. And if there IS additional info, it's not necessarily accurate anyway. | |
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| Sexual Preditors and Pedifiles VS Drug Dealers/Probation Violators/Traffic Violators
Posted: 10/21/2005 5:29:15 PM | I am not sure if anyone has covered this or not. If so, I apologize.
One person asked IS IT THIS SIMPLE? And the answer is no.
I am as against this kind of thing as any of you. Not only was I abused as a child I for the past two years had a child of my own. She was/is and always will be my life.
But jailing an offender for life is no solution. Yes it will stop one pedophile, but what about the others, the one's not caught. The problem is not how to punish but how to understand and with understanding perhaps we can discover a solution. They do say that pedophilia is an illness. So lets learn and then one day cure it much as we would any other illness. I understand it is hard to not want to drive a spike into the eye of a pedophile and watch them slowly, painfully die. But stopping one, two even twenty of these sick people will not solve the problem. Until we educate ourselves they will always be out there waiting to strike at the next innocent, unsuspecting child.
So in my opinion we need to try to control our anger, educate ourselves on how best to protect our children and then...address the problem! Death, castration, even jail is not a solution. It is like sweeping the dirt under the rug. The dirt is still there. | |
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