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Posted: 10/22/2007 10:01:12 PM | Looks like McCabe is not the only one helping out opposing teams. Just ask Ohlund tonite about his assist on Whitney's goal.
Luongo actually killed any possibly Nucks comeback by heading back toward the net, after a subsitute player had already taken the ice. Subsequently the Nucks take a two many men pentaly.  Doh on Roberto. | |
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Msg: 4552 | |
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Posted: 10/22/2007 10:02:49 PM | Geez i cant spell....Hey Grog...i dont want to here it....we are not in English class here so keep your feedback to yourself about my spelling. | |
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Posted: 10/24/2007 8:40:34 PM | And who ends the wild's 8 games unbeaten streak?
Thats right......
Who else but Calgary Flames  | |
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Posted: 10/25/2007 8:23:46 AM | I am watching hockey, even pre-season games- NOT common in northeast, w/Red Sox STILL playing..
Canadiens, and Sabres are NHL favs, and Amerks in Rochester is favorite AHL team.. Never miss a game, as long as I am not working.. Sabres have thier work cut out for them.. not as easy as last yr. Montreal appears to be improved.. they need to play a full game, or it will be another long yr. GO AMERKS | |
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Posted: 10/25/2007 11:16:05 AM | and the wild were not on a unbeaten streak it was a point streak they had already lost.
ok there we go last night proves without a question the wild are not a elite team. as in no ones books a elite team should give up a 3 goal lead and have 5 unanswered goals scored on them to lose.
what a game though. flames are showing me alot of positives this season so far. love that we can come back. but need to tighten up on defence and stop doing the dumb hook or hold.
go flames go
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Posted: 10/25/2007 11:56:20 AM | "ok there we go last night proves without a question the wild are not a elite team. as in no ones books a elite team should give up a 3 goal lead and have 5 unanswered goals scored on them to lose."
One game proves nothing. I remember the Oilers of the early 80s taking 5-0 lead into the third period against LA and losing 6-5...IN THE PLAYOFFS no less (1982 Miracle on Manchester). And yes, like it or not, they were without a doubt an elite team. They were favoured to get to the Stanley Cup Finals that season...never got past the first round.
You're right...an elite team SHOULDN'T ever give up a 3-goal lead, especially not the team with the best goals against average in the entire NHL, but it happens. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2007 1:52:21 PM | and the wild were not on a unbeaten streak it was a point streak they had already lost.
I know they were on point streak but to me a shoot out situation is same as a tie game, because even if you lose you still get a point which I dont understand why!
what was wrong with tie games in regular season anyway? I was winning Pro Line back then with tie games. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2007 2:33:20 PM | how about the wild are just horriable offencively. they havnt scored more then 3 in any game this season. they never take advantage when a team is ready to be put away. give up to many points to divison teams. i could name off 10-20 different reasons why they are not a elitle team.
ok one game isnt much but the elite teams dont screw it up when having that chance. thats the difference.
name the last time the wings threw away a 3-0 lead aginst a divison rival. also had what 9 power plays that game.
give me a freakin break that was clasic wild hockey. they did it all last season. any time they have the chance they fail to slice the throat.
really look at who they have played and its not that inpressive at all.
now ask yourself
are the wild as good as the wings? does any team or hell fan say ohh we are playing the wild tonight better stay out of the box. does the 188 points in the last to seasons put them on a leval of the wings 237 points? if your calling the wild elite then last season the stars, sharks, preds,nucks, ducks, pens, sens, thrashers, devils and sabers where what then? they all finished higher in the standings.
i think you have to finish higher then midpack lower west to be elite.
and gga is so over rated, this is a new era its about being able to put the puck in the net also. low scoring will not get you much post season action if the boys up front cant go out and win you a few games.
go flames go
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Posted: 10/25/2007 9:15:40 PM | "give me a freakin break that was clasic wild hockey. they did it all last season. any time they have the chance they fail to slice the throat"
Give YOU a frikkin break? How about you give THEM a frikkin break. Love em or hate em smack, you don't – and I repeat DO NOT, as in NOT POSSIBLE – get 104 points in a season by failing to slice the throat every chance you have. A team CAN NOT finish 22 games over .500 by failing to "slice the throat any time they had the chance." Sorry. It just does not happen. You generally maske very good points Smack, but that may be the least logical thing you have posted in this forum. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 3:41:35 AM | my god they were tied with the nucks quite a few times near the end of the season, but always found a way to fall behind again. thats what i am talking about. its that final kill shot the elite teams seem to make. im sayinb the wild failed to win a game when the nucks lost, they threw out so many good chances.
i like the wild dont get me wrong. but wacthing the last 20 games of there season, and there short playoffs last season really put into light what kind of team they are. they were goo din the reg season and just plain bad in the playoffs. lacked that next leval.
they were a .500 road team, not taking that extra step on the road cost them the divison. the northwest picked the wild apart when the wild were the away team.
go flames go
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Posted: 10/26/2007 8:45:07 AM | | wild last year in the division, on the road, and with a healthy gaborik: 8-2-2 | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 10:06:34 AM | """...Sundin credited the change of scenery from Toronto for part of last night's upset.
"Sometimes it's nice to get out on the road," the captain said. "It's important to get close and to bond."
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2007/10/26/4607533-sun.html
Leafs on the road without McCabester in the lineup..1 and 0
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You'd think Chara would know by now not to break his knuckles on a guys helemt while trying to smash some guys face in.Tthat's the most blood on the ice I've seen in a while. I don't know about this enforcer Chicago has this year. He looks as scary as half you guys on here, , (j/k lads, don't get your knickers all twisted up there). But he looks like he's a bleeder.
Zdeno Chara vs. David Koci
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q3_ghTTQefI
How's that elite Wild team doing on it's trip thru Alberta this week?
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Geez, a nite of firsts in the NHL...Hemsky scores (nice deke on the shootout winner~reminded me of Cam Connor's goal on Palmateer to knock the Leafs out in '79 ), and the Leafs look a hockey club with a strong third period, against a starting goaler no less.
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Posted: 10/26/2007 1:50:37 PM |
How's that elite Wild team doing on it's trip thru Alberta this week?
good enough to still be in 1st place in the western conference. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 1:58:15 PM | | also, they have been without demitra these past 2 games. hes not only one of their top offensive threats but also one of their best penalty killing forwards. they have given up a power play goal in both games that hes been out. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 2:36:17 PM | | so are you saying this is a squad that lacks depth? | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 2:55:53 PM |
so are you saying this is a squad that lacks depth?
they are deep enough when fully healthy but when u take out rolston, demitra, or gabby to injury then they lose their elite status in my mind. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2007 3:31:41 PM | Well i have a bit of bad news for you, but you probably already know that gaborik hasn't played in more than 65 games since the '02 season, and demitra, one of my regular picks in pools, hasn't played a full season since '02 as well. You like them, i don't get to see them, but i do have a lot of respect for Lemaire even though i kind of question his judgement riding shotgun on a rookie goalie. Must be the patrick Roy, Ken Dryden thing in him where he knows that once a decade a team can win a Cup with a rookie goaler, but i thought Cam Ward already filled that quota for this decade with the Canes.
I hope they do well I suppose. But a team that relies on elite status only if two very injury prone hockey players are in the lineup, wouldn't equate to even being considered an elite hockey club in my mind.. I know you're a Wings fan, which I would classify closer to being an elite team than this Wild hockey club. Rolston I know quarterbacks the powerplay, but for the most part, he's considered around the league to be a solid utility forward, nothing anywhere near an elite status. So if they're unable to win with gaborik out of the lineup, it would not only suggest they lack depth, it might even border on the suggestion they're a "one trick pony" like the Canucks with Luongo.
Even though I obviously can't cheer for the faggy Sens, I have to hand it to them last year the way they kept on winning with horrendous injuries up and down their lineup. I mean even my leafs won last night with 5 regulars out of the lineup, on the road, against a team many have picked to be around the near the end of the road to the Stanley Cup. Mind you, if they'd strip that kid Crosby of his captaincy and let him focus on what he's goodd at, playing hockey, you'd start to see a different Pens squad right quick..
Now, let's talk some real hockey...the Leafs...lol. Seems everyone and their aunty is phoning fergy to make some deals...but he's not budging:
...Evidently, he's waiting for someone to make him an offer he can't refuse and not just on Alex Steen, on just about any player draped in a blue and white sweater.
Attaching Steen's name to any trade rumour instantly conjurs up the 2006 draft day trade that could have been.
The Edmonton Oilers were willing to send Chris Pronger to Toronto in exchange for Tomas Kaberle, Alex Steen and Matt Stajan.
Toronto balked and refused to include Steen in the package, offering draft picks and prospects instead.
The deal collapsed and it doesn't appear John Ferguson's appetite for moving Steen now has improved, but he's listening.
Wade Belak draws interest from managers constantly inquiring about his availability.
Belak has become an attractive player for those teams who don't have his toughness in their lineup. For that same reason Toronto is reluctant to move him, plus the return on Wade Belak isn't likely to change the fortunes of the Maple Leafs.
Matt Stajan would bring a healthy return, but like Steen trading away good young players doesn't appear to be high on the list.
Ferguson will continue to make his calls and may bait the odd hook with names like Steen and Stajan. However, unless he starts getting serious about actually trading one of these players, fellow GM's may not take those calls seriously.
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/dreger/?id=221392 | |
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Posted: 10/27/2007 10:29:12 AM | they are deep enough when fully healthy but when u take out rolston, demitra, or gabby to injury then they lose their elite status in my mind.
then thats a yes you think they lack depth. lol could have just said that. depth includes the farm.
go flames go
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Posted: 10/27/2007 11:30:16 AM | wings are doing what is expected of them. whats the difference between this year or any or resent? but thanks for your very insightful post. i might spend hours thinking of what you had to say. i love it when people think so deeply about there posts and put up great points like that.
go flames go
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Posted: 10/27/2007 12:16:28 PM | "wings are doing what is expected of them. whats the difference between this year or any or resent?"
Wow and the Flames have achieved alot in the last 10 yrs.
HOW BOUT THEM WINGS !!!!!! | |
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Msg: 4572 | |
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Posted: 10/27/2007 3:26:07 PM | lol, i see were still on this "wild are an elite team" discussion.
Im with Smack on this one. The Wild are a good team but far from elite. As i said pages ago...depth is their biggest killer....Demitra or Gaborik goes down and their screwed.
Demtira misses the last two games and the Wild lose them both. After having a lengthy unbeaten streak. how interesting. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2007 3:36:33 PM | well in the last 10 years the flames knocked out a red wings team with double the salary of them in 2004. shutting down the top offence club that season in games 5 and 6.
went from bottom feeder, with bad coaching to a team with a great coach and great gm.
you can worry about the last 10 years all you want though. i care about now. and 5 years from now. live in the past all you want. what does the last 10 years have to do with now?
go flames go
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Posted: 10/27/2007 3:45:16 PM | last time i checked your call up are included in depth. there is no such thing as a nhl team having a complte injury free season. name 1 team go ahead? by depth it is the players you are going to call up. not we have a pretty soild team with no injuries, that doesnt make sense at all. funny how every stat or thing you try and prove a extra clause has to be added.
the wild are a deep team if you dont include players that they will use when one of the main guys goes down. great scoring but not if you take the top 3 out.
and the season doesnt end in 70 more games. thats when it starts.
wow name calling already. using that alittle quick i think. i guess if i didnt really have anything to say back i might drop to that leval.
go flames go
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Msg: 4575 | |
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Posted: 10/27/2007 3:52:23 PM | "trust me, im perfectly content waiting another 70 games and then laughing it up with islandjokester at the end of the season'
You do that.
Lets be clear though. The wild will have a good season. Finishing second in the division and 4th in the east with more than 100 points. They are a good team.
but i will be laughing it up when they bow out early in the playoffs once again.
The playoff seasons is the REAL season. | |
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