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Posted: 11/16/2007 12:44:18 PM |
Thats the whole problem with the Leafs.
Financialy they are great, on ice product is a mess. 40 year Stanley Cup drought.
So as a hockey "nation" they are 3rd world.
Tucker was the first to use his stick the other nite in the warmup.
Toronto Marlies are 10 wins and 2 Shootout losses and one of the best teams in the AHL now so there is HOPE.
Hamilton which is Montreal's ahl team won the Calder last year and the last year a Montreal Farm team won the Calder their goalie was Patrick Roy
Tucker is my favorite Leaf. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2007 2:04:23 PM | "Toronto Marlies are 10 wins and 2 shootout losses"
a strong farm team is a big factor in the depth department. Especially when call ups are needed due to injuries.
There is indeed HOPE.
Now we just need to unload McCabe
"Tucker is my favorite Leaf"
is mine current leaf fav too. His enthusiam when healthy, is awesome.
Cujo is my fav leaf goalie. Gilmour and Clark were my fav's in the nineties as well. | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/16/2007 2:10:43 PM | "It baffles me why Maurice would start Raycroft in Beantown"
Toskola had the flu. Perhaps he was still feeling the effects?
"Wosnewski and White need to be benched or demoted or traded"
I agree. White is too damn small to be a defencemen. He's a liability.
I say keep Kaberle, Gil, Kubina, Colavicco....McCabe, Woxnewski, White need the boot. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2007 2:43:42 PM |
a strong farm team is a big factor in the depth department. Especially when call ups are needed due to injuries.
Since the players on the Marlies live in the GTA during the season then getting called up is a short drive for them for a home game or trip to Person airport for a flight to an away game. . | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 3:06:00 PM | a strong farm team is a big factor in the depth department. Especially when call ups are needed due to injuries.
Keep dreaming for as long as there is no incentive(ie Teachers Pension Ownership) to win in Leaf Stagnation, there will be no joy in Torontotown. | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 3:52:40 PM | "there will be no joy in Torontotown"
pro sports are doing well in TO.
The leafs are popular even when they lose. Always have been, always will.
The Argos are on their way to being the East Division Champs. And possibly could upset the lions as they have home field advantage.
The Raports had the best record in their division last year and look to go deeper into the playoffs.
The Blue Jays are always competittive even with NY and Boston in their division. The only team to win back to back World Series titles in a long time...
No joy in Torontotown you say.....where's the barf emoticon.
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Posted: 11/17/2007 4:52:24 PM | The leafs are popular even when they lose. Always have been, always will.
The Argos are on their way to being the East Division Champs. And possibly could upset the lions as they have home field advantage.
The Raports had the best record in their division last year and look to go deeper into the playoffs.
The Blue Jays are always competittive even with NY and Boston in their division.
Mediocraty reigns supreme in Leaf StagNation and TO! | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 4:55:55 PM | Leaf Nations rules.
notice how you dont promote a team eh...tough talk... | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 5:00:26 PM | Why would I "promote a team"?
I enjoy hockey and I am a Red Wing fan. I don't live for them though and I am realistic about the teams I enjoy. | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:12:56 PM | A Canadian behind an American team.
Interesting. Guess you have to cheer for a "good team" since your living in Edmonton and the Oilers are stinking it up now . | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:15:51 PM | | I am from Windsor and all the Detroit teams played within a half hrs drive of my home. So I cheered for the home team. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:22:56 PM |
The only team to win back to back World Series titles in a long time
...was the Yankees...and not only did they do it back to back, they did it back to back to back 98, 99, and 2000. Jays haven't been competitive in well over a decade.
Actually the Sens and the Leafs remind me of the Jays the last dozen years...going with Carlos Delgado and Shannon Stewart and Vernon Wells and all these other guys that have never won a championship. Good guys mind you. good players too. But they don't know the road. You need a guy to show you the road home, like for example, Roberts with the Pens, Neidermayer with the Ducks etc.You need champions in your dressing room, or clubhouse to help show you the way.
Meanwhile, Spazza's still winning almost 25% of his faceoffs as his band of gay caballero's are getting it handed to them tonight. 3-0 Leafs 4 minutes left. best all round game they've played this year. Mind you Maurice shortened his bench bigtime and has gone with 4 defencemen most of the night since early in the 1st period.
If they play like this every night, they'll be in first by Christmas. Tonight they're playing like a team.
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:32:39 PM | Leafs beat the best team in the NHL.
Ottawa blanked
The Sens have not been shootout for nearly a year. You have to go back to Dec.14, 2006 to find Ottawa shootout.
Great to see a second shootout for TO in the past few games.
Tucker opened the scoring, with Mats following suit. The Rookie Tjisty (sp?) had a nice goal to with Bell getting the helper.
Defensively things are slowly improving.
Meanwhile, the Habs are starting to fall, and the Leafs are turning it around.
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:33:37 PM | shutout, not shootout.....i had a few beers, its hockey night in Canada, so spare me the spelling. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:37:56 PM | Leafs are turning it around. lol
Engrave the Cup! | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/17/2007 6:59:27 PM | "Engrave the Cup"
bwaahhahahaha
long time to go.
The leafs will finish, 6th in the east, imo. And they will be fighting for home ice for the playoffs. The leafs moved into 3rd place in their division tonite, ahead of Boston and Buffalo.
"He's gonna be a bigtime asset for this hockey club"
uh huh. Bell already, since his suspension has provided more grit, good forechecking and some offence. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 4:20:43 AM | The Leafs are in 7th place in the playoffs race by one point with a solid .500 win/loss record . Last 2 years they finished higher than .500 and still didn't make the playoffs.
They have played more games than the 6 teams that are all within 3 points of a playoff spot.
Yep time to plan the Stanley cup parade. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 7:17:00 AM |
Yep time to plan the Stanley cup parade
Well plan it so I get a better seat than I did for the last one. We appreciate you taking the time to put it all together for us.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish.
Take for example this team that just recently had this fancy smancy little start to the season of 13 and1. They've now become a 500 hockey club at 2 and 2 over the last 4 with, like i said last night, a horseshoe up their arse coming away from last weeks Montreal game with a win after being totally outplayed for the better part of 55, 56 minutes of the hockey game. And that fast start for the minnesota elites now has them mired in 6th place tied.
We''ll see who can grind it out over the winter. You're big offseason additon to improve your club was what? Luc Richardson. Who I think might have been a rookie when the leafs won their last Cup. He looked like a dinosaur out there last nite. keep spending all your money on your Spazza's. Good centreman if he wasn't expected to win any draws. Oh that's right. That's what a centreman's job number one is.
I'd be worrying about keeping my eyes on my own fries if i were a Sens fan right about now. Feel it slipping a bit do ya? You're still 10 games over 500, but most teams don't get into the playdowns at ten games over. Oh and now with Spazza winning 20% of his faceoffs, you're finally start playing some road games. I won't laff yet, because he who laffs last laffs best.
I can almost hear the hue and cry and gnashing of teeth as you prepare to try and stay positive about the fact that all the enthusiasm to a fast start to the season is starting to wear off, and now they have to work...and 2 and 2 isn't working for anybody. If you're starting to hear footsteps, you're probably right. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 8:21:58 AM | take for example this team that just recently had this fancy smancy little start to the season of 13 and1. They've now become a 500 hockey club at 2 and 2 over the last 4 with
Wow simply amazing. How do you rip on a team that goes to the playoffs every year when your team is a complete mess every year. This is why Leaf fans are not well liked ..they have totally lost touch with reality.
On the other side when will Ken Holland and my beloved Red Wings wake up and get some Canadian leadership on board. geesh another loss to the Hawks.
Come playoff time Leaf Stagnation will be a Third World country again! | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 9:50:54 AM |
Red Wings geesh another loss to the Hawks.
Hawks are a good young hockey club and Savard's got them playing well. They'll probably start to tail off after the new year from the youth and their still lacking some depth. Youth starts to tire out in february and march not being used to the NHL grind. i think the Buhlin wall is gone for the season. I might be mistaken on that, but i think i remember hearing that.
As for Sens bashing, it's just become a pasttime much like the Habs hate the Sens even more than leaf fans do. We just don't see it since we seldom read Montreal news. Sens are a good franchise. i've said that many many times on here. Just like to pull their fans chains since they love rubbing our noses in it because of the last two years. That's OK. They've still never beaten us in the playdowns yet, and judging by last nights game, still won't. They were outshot and frankly outplayed in the first two games of the season. They were outshot in the game 11 days ago as well but their fast start caught some of our slewfoots off guard and within ten minutes the game was over. Besides, go to ottawa for a week and read all the constant leaf bashing in their papers. They're obsessed with us. Must be jealous of the famed blue and white
Three nights ago, the Sabres outplayed the Sens as well...so adding all that up they could just as easily be 10 and 8 as opposed to 15 and 3. But 15 and 3 is where they are. But they did little to beef up a team that was seriously manhandled in last years Cup Final. They let Comrie and Priesing go and brought Puke Richardson in whose better days were about a decade ago.
Get ready for the shoe to drop on this Ottawa hockey club. I'm forced to watch most of their games over at my chums and they're not as good as their record indicates. The initial burst of enthusiasm like I said is gone now. Paddock, the master motivator that he is(n't), now will have to get these guys back in the saddle. I expect the East to really tighten up over the coming weeks. The Flyers are coming back down to earth, the Strangers are starting to live up to the preseason billing and the Lightning are starting to shake and bake. I called the Sens either 4th or 8th and still don't see much cause to change that prediction.
Meanwhile on a more positive note, mats ties the Big M, Frank Maharvlich (that's the way my neighbour's dad used to always pronounce it he he he) for 27th alltime in goals with his 533rd and is also now only 11 points behind Fats, the big captain, Alex Delvechio for 30th all time in points with 1270.
And Marty picked up his 500th win last nite as a goaler. Beers all round! | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 10:45:07 AM | When you compare this years Sens to last years Sens i see a weaker team. They added Richardson and Donovan... But they lost Comrie, Schaefer and Pressing.
The loss of Comrie and Schaefer mean the team lacks scoring depth behind their big 3. One big line does not cut it in todays league. Cup chamption Anaheim had 3 scoring lines they relied on not just one.
The loss of Pressing means they lost their highest scoring blue liner last year.
Redden defintely helps in that department but he is like McCabre in that regard. He has trouble justifying his 6.5 Million contract when he's playing in his own end.
Last season Gerber and Allfie faced trade rumours and were not popular for the first half of the season...Now there saints...Only in the nations capital.
If enough teams learn fromt eh convincing 5 game thrashing Anaheim delivered the Sens last year, we may see more teams take a hard rugged fore check against this team. This was one of the keys to the Leafs success last nite and in turn blanked the Sens.
The Sens will have a tough time keeping their core together past this year. Their reputation of being Cup chockers will continue. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 1:43:26 PM | | I am a die hard Leafs fan (obviously) and seeing Toskala rob Alfie last night was awesome. I realize the Sens are the better team at the moment but it was nice to get the win | |
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Posted: 11/18/2007 3:19:16 PM | "Leafs beat the best team in the NHL.
Ottawa blanked
The Sens have not been (shutout) for nearly a year. You have to go back to Dec.14, 2006 to find Ottawa (shutout)"
Hmmm...so I guess Gerber's 2-0 blanking of the Rangers last month doesn't count | |
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Joined: 10/14/2006
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Posted: 11/18/2007 4:24:47 PM | hmmm if that did occur then i guess i missed it.
Whoops....i was drinking last nite.  | |
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