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Posted: 12/23/2007 7:18:39 PM | | You mean like watching cars go round and round ?? | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 12:15:51 PM | WJH starts today for Canada. It is always a fun comeptitive tournament.
Watching tommorrow's stars is a treat.
GO CANADA GO | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 6:05:05 PM | so hummm 35 games in and the wild are only 20-13-2 with 42 points in 6th place.
who was saying they were a elite team? that doesnt sound elite to me. avearge at best.
count another one for smack
go flames go
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Posted: 12/26/2007 7:01:09 PM | i was one of the ones who said the Wild were not an elite team.
i believe it was Jokester and Wingnut who were pushing the Wild as an elite team.
Minnesota is a good team but far from elite. | |
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Posted: 12/26/2007 7:29:11 PM | That argument ended MONTHS ago...but seeing's how you are bringing it up again, like I said back then and I will iterate here, all I said is that the Wild are a very good REGULAR SEASON team and that I predict them to win the Northwest Division. I still say they will win the division and in that regard, relative to everything else, I always call every year's division winners the "elite" for that season. Kind of the same way many writers in Canada refer to the NHL quarter-finals as the "Elite Eight", stealing the term from the NCAA's March Madness.
God forbid I didn't happen to ask all of you permission to use an over-used phrase.
Like I said in my acceptance of all the arguments against using the term, it's clear that the NHL has no elite teams, and hasn't had any for at least 10 years. I'm ok with that. | |
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Posted: 12/27/2007 3:22:16 PM | ^^i did not bring up said agrument again lol but it is funny.
"all i said is that the Wild are a very good REGULAR SEASON team and that i predict them to win the Northwest Division"
your prediction is your right. No worries there. I do not see the Wild winning the division. I see the my Canucks and Luongo taking it....perhaps Colorado. The wild are having defensive issues. A couple months ago i remember mentioning that the wild for the first time were having goaltending issues. Say la vive, last nite they give up 8 goals...ouch!
"it's clear that the NHL has no elite teams, and hasn't had any for at least 10 years"
Yup agree with you there. | |
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Posted: 12/27/2007 3:28:16 PM | | What do you people clasify as "Elite"? | |
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Posted: 12/27/2007 3:46:28 PM | """...Say la vive"""????
lol...methinks you're looking for c'est la vie...such is life en francaise
What do you people clasify as "Elite"?
You'll have to go back about 25 pages kaos to go thru it all again. Like jokester says, or I guess it's the prairie pundit now, every night we hear these dweebs on Sportsnet and Sportsdesk going on and on about the Sens being an elite team this year, etc etc. So in terms of present day play, the Sens and the Red Wings are elite squads. The rest of them right now are just a hodge podge of average hockey clubs grinding out a living.
Whether they classify as purely elite teams all time is another matter. For the record I think the Sens rely way way too much on one line for me to be thiking these gay caballero's are an elite hockey club. their record says otherwise, but we're still not even halfway home.
Oh and i got the lowdown over the holidays on the good ole Sens ways of relieving stress this past summer while they waited out the 11 days to get the Stanley Cup final going. I've been sworn to secrecy on it, but there was four of them in the car the one night, not just the one defenceman that the team doesn't seem to want to resign this year. And it wasn't just the one night either. If i tell ya's i'll have to kill ya's all, or someone might kill me, so it's all on the QT until someone else in the ottawa area lets loose on what the lads do for recreation while they're not playing.
Something very similar to why good old grant Fuhr ended up sitting out a season. that's OK. I heard once that you're sins will find you out, so eventually this will all come out. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 7:44:46 AM | Wings smoke Avs without four of their regulars. Henrik Zetterberg (back spasms), Tomas Holmstrom (knee) and Kirk Maltby (back) didn't make the trip because of injuries. Chris Chelios healthy scratch.
With the "Elite" Red Wings making mincemeat out of the NHL opposition this season will this be the first NHL team to win a Cup without a Canadian as its's heart and soul guy.
Can anyone beat the Wings? | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 9:43:41 AM | "will this be the first NHL team to win a Cup without a Canadian as its's heart and soul guy."
Nope. The Stars won with Modano as the heart and soul of the team | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:20:03 AM | lol
yes I mis spoke and I posed that question here a few months back.
The Wings are scary good and last years run to the Confrence final proved they are tough enough to go deep in the playoffs.
Although San Jose and Aneheim are heating up again.
The Cup will defiantely stay out west again. | |
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Posted: 12/28/2007 4:06:54 PM | ^^^its possible Luongo and the Canucks could knock out the Wings.
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Posted: 12/28/2007 5:29:24 PM | hahah ya all knew i was going to have to bring that back up at some time. as i was expection it brought back up if the wild were unstopable.
any one else think its time the nhl gets rid of the video goal review. they get it wrong so many times, or dont play by there own rules. i belive it would be alot better having that human error back into the game. not human error caused by machine or they dont have the angle.
scrap the shoot out as well, it was fun the first 3 times but has to be the most boring play in all of sports now. i would rather wacth darts then another lack luster last 10 min of a game a slow ot and a skills comp. its just not hockey and the teams that exel at the shoot out play for the shoot out when the game is close.
how about iggy just ripping it up. guys going to be in the running for some hardware this year.
go flames go
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Posted: 12/28/2007 5:57:33 PM | Yup cant stand the shootout...while its exciting it certainly isnt what hockey is about...a game should be decided via team play not one on one.
As for the video review i'll disagree their...Sometimes the refs miss critical calls...Im sure your talking about Calgary's 4th goal that was disallowed? That was as close as they come...Irregardless the Flames came back and buried 3 goals against Luongo which should of been enough to beat the Canucks. However, your Flames D and Kipper look terrible.
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Posted: 12/29/2007 11:49:41 AM |
^^^its possible Luongo and the Canucks could knock out the Wings.
Based on what...there past playoff record?
Vancouver Canucks Playoff Record
07 - Eliminated 2nd round
06 - Did not qualify
05 - Season Cancelled
04 - Eliminated 1st round
03 - Eliminated 2nd round
02 - Eliminated 1st round (By Wings)
01 - Eliminated 1st round
99 - Did not qualify
98 - Did not qualify
97 - Did not qualify | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 3:26:35 PM | "Yup cant stand the shootout...while its exciting it certainly isnt what hockey is about...a game should be decided via team play not one on one."
I'll take the shootout over the point for a loss. That's the rule that really drives me nuts. Rewarding failure. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 4:24:51 PM | Love the shootout but keep it for the regular season only. It's great to see the creativity of the skill players.
I don't want to go back to the days when teams had 20 ties on their record. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 4:37:14 PM | "Based on what...there past playoff record?"
Perhaps based on Detroit's recent playoff record. Haven't they lost to the eighth seed in the opening round two of the past three playoffs? | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 5:25:45 PM | Damn Leafs... They are going to get Maurice and Fergie Jr fired.
Wow... do they look bad!
And Avery is killing them. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 6:10:18 PM | Perhaps based on Detroit's recent playoff record. Haven't they lost to the eighth seed in the opening round two of the past three playoffs?
Lets look at the Western Confrence Play off records.
If you award 1 pt for each round of the playoffs and an extra point for winning the Cup here are the results.
1 Year...
Aneheim 5 pts
Detroit 3
3 year...
Aneheim 8 pts
San Jose 7 pts
Detroit 6 pts
Colorado 6 pts
5 Year...
Aneheim 12 pts
Detroit 12 pts
San Jose 9 pts
Colorado 8 pts
10 year...
Detroit 27 pts
Colorado 23 pts
Dallas 19 pts
Aneheim 15 pts
This myth about Detroit being a poor playoff team has been busted! | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 7:52:53 PM | "This myth about Detroit being a poor playoff team has been busted!"
First off, all I said is that they lost in the opening round two of the past 3 playoffs. I didn't say anything about them being a poor playoff team. And I was wrong. it's 2 of their past 4...they lost in the SECOND round to Calgary. They lost the year before that in the first round to the Ducks.
Second off...your chart is skewed. Can't help but notice you skip the years that Detroit tanks it in the first round. Clearly, after 2 years (Detroit 4) and four years (Detroit 7) they would be well down the list in those years. I don't have the time to bother doing so myself, but I'm guessing you will only reply to this if I'm wrong and you're right so I will take your lack of response as confirmation
Damn Oilers blew a 3-goal lead tonight, losing 5-4 in overtime to Minny...oh well...thank god for that point for an OT loss
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Posted: 12/29/2007 8:26:00 PM | Myth Busters
I chose those for separation not manipulation but here are the others.
2 year...
Anaheim 8 pts
Detroit 4 pts
Edmonton 4 pts
San Jose 4 pts
4 Year...
Aneheim 12 pts
Detroit 7 pts
San Jose 7 pts
Gee 2nd place in both. What a terrible playoff team the Wings are.
I accept your apology on behalf of the 2008 Stanly Cup Champion Detroit Red Wings. | |
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Posted: 12/29/2007 9:43:57 PM | Luongo can beat the Wings.
The Wings are not the only strong team in the West.
Once again the Presidents Trophy will mean squat come playoff time and when the REAL season begins. Regular season champs does not guarantee anything come playoff time.
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Posted: 12/30/2007 8:36:17 AM |
Once again the Presidents Trophy will mean squat come playoff time and when the REAL season begins. Regular season champs does not guarantee anything come playoff time.
Pucky you are a genius. I never would have thunk that.
Vancouver's current team and past history do not indicate they have the ability to make a run at the cup. They also have the same achilies heal as Detroit ...lack of Canadian leadership.
San Jose and Aneheim are the two teams I fear most. | |
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Posted: 12/30/2007 12:28:23 PM | ^^^^last time i checked Luongo was a great Canadian leader.
^^^there's Dallas too that your forgetting about..i'd fear them as well.
Brenden Morrow is a great Canadian leader.
looks like the Wings are in for a possible first round loss again. They are going to have to face the Ducks, Flames, Hawks or Blue's.
Before you knock Chicago (remember Savard has that team running well, with young stars like Towes and Kane) and ST.Louis (this team has completely changed as well with Kariya and company so they are not a walk through either. | |
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