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Posted: 4/2/2008 9:36:55 AM | "wow this is crazy for the flames to get the best macth up for the first round being wild with flames having home ice....we need to win both games wild and nucks then have the wild get an ot lose ethier against us or the aves. which makes the flames win the tie break from the wild. with no point from the wild and the aves get the 6th seed. flames win both and wild beats the aves not bad wild win northwest and play the flames. "
Then again ... if the Flames lose their final two games, they could still finish out of the playoffs altogether.
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Posted: 4/2/2008 9:54:16 AM | ^ Yes, there is a possibility. And that would be so horrible for us Oiler fans to see them get knocked out, wouldn't it?
I can see Nashville creeping into a spot, but the Nucks would have to pull up they're socks or it will be their spot that's given up. Should be an interesting finish. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 10:31:18 AM | """...And that would be so horrible for us Oiler fans to see them get knocked out, wouldn't it?"""
The satisfaction would be similar to what we will feel if the Sens drop their last two games here. My buddies phoned me from the game as they were already leaving 7 minutes into the third last night cursing me for telling them back in January they'd be damn lucky to make the playoffs because they were so highly over-rated. Now they can't get that conversation out of their head as their club slowly, actually not so slowly, sinks into the abyss.lol I'm actually getting a bit giddy over tomorrow nights home finale against the Senaturds. We've taken four in a row from them, and I'm hoping it'll be 5. Then maybe guys like Spazza won't think there sh*t don't stink so much while they do their interviews riding their bikes every night.
That guy gets right under my skin with all his interviews about how they're really a good team and everyone knows how good they are blah blah blah. Spazza proved when Heatley and Alfie went out with injuries that he's very expendable. The guys a grade A wimp-out. I'd move him out. His attitude kind of reminds me of McCabes they way he looks so indignant when you ask why the team doesn't play well..
I'm pulling for Washington AND the Canes to get in along with the beantowners and the much hated Flyers. If all that happens, which isn't in the realm of the unimaginable, then 5 teams from last year will have missed this years playdowns in the east. Only the Devils for the 11 straight time, the Strangers and the Pens for the 2nd straight time each would be back from last year. Right now though, the devils have the worst possible opening round opponent for them as the Strangers I believe have swept them so far this season.
By the looks of it, in the west, only the Avs and the Nucks will be switching playoff appearances.
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So post-trade deadline day, Sharks are 15-0-1 with Campbell. Caps are almost as hot. Halpern of the Bolts leads all traded players in points since the deadline. Stuart with the Wings is out and will much of the first round with a broken finger. Huet is 9-2 with 2 or 3 shutouts. Federov is still close to 70% in the faeoff circle and taking some big-time heat off the first line. Andrew Ladd is really starting to blossom in Chicargo. Corvo's played well for Carolina and Prospal's played well for Philly..
Congrats to you Oilers fans. Great finish. Too bad you couldn't have squeezed your way in there. If the season had gone on another week you probably would have got your foot in the door. Excellent job nonetheless. Lots to look forward to next year compared to how you all must have spent last summer ready to lynch your GM.
Tick tocks right about the runs being totally different in nature. Yours was all about young kids coming together and gelling and gaining confidence and belief. you have lots of reasons for tons of optimism next season. Ours was just surrounded by total confusion facing this roster this upcoming summer, with probably over half those loyal fans actually hoping they wouldn't play well.. Love how those oh so loyal leaf fans are begging for Sundin to sign back on now for another season. After trying to run this guy, a hall of famer no less, out of Dodge five weeks ago, half the newspaper columns have titles now like "Mats Come Back"  Shane come back. Come back Shane....Pa's got things for you to do... 
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Posted: 4/2/2008 11:33:44 AM |
half the newspaper columns have titles now like "Mats Come Back"
Not the newspaper stories I read. In fact most of the callers to the radio shows and most of the columnists are unanimous in want ting the Leafs to cut ties with several players and especially Sundin.
The cap room they would save would allow them to rebuild quicker. That is if they had a credible front office to move forward.
Nose bleed tickets were going for $250 last night in front of the Rexall. Phaneuf got burned badly on that goal last night. He is improving but not ready for Norris yet. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 12:29:24 PM |
The cap room they would save would allow them to rebuild quicker
I'm in agreement with that.
But here kaos, you might want to read some of the blogs at the bottom of this TSN article to get some of the fans feedback or are you interpreting the FAN590 as actually being representative of fans opinions? I'll get you some more blogs from fans when i get back in later tonight. Opinions are all across the board on this one.:
Fletcher would like to re-sign Sundin
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=233298&hubname=nhl
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"""...GM Cliff Fletcher continues to express optimism that Sundin will continue playing and will sign with the Leafs..."""
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Hockey/article/409021
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Fletcher has a feeling captain will return
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"I can't speak for him but I think there is a good chance, based on how he has played this year," Fletcher told reporters.
"You guys saw what he said the other day. He said Toronto was the only team he wanted to play for. He made a pretty strong commitment at the trade deadline when he said he didn't want to play for another team."
Fletcher said the entire Toronto organization is unified in its desire to have Sundin return next season."""
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Toronto/2008/04/02/5171061-sun.html
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Looking over some of the different scenarios we face next year, i personally don't want to see him back. Like you say, we need cash here. We're already committed to 42 mill next year with the cutoff looking to be about 55. And we're talking of buyouts for some which to me is the absolutely last resort to use. We'd have to pay market value or close to it (anywhere from 5 to 7.5 mill) for Mats again and we still have to look at offering Stajan and Dominick Moore contracts, two centres i think we can use in the future. Some other RFA's that have spent time with the big club are Jay Harrison, Ondrus, Foster, UFA's John Pohl, Clemmenson, Wosnewski.
It doesn't make sense to take him back. Not to me anyway. We do need a fresh captain, preferable one from the heartland here in Ontario for leafs purposes. Definitely not Steen. If they make good on the rumours of Steen being the next captain i'll cheer for the Caps until they change that.
Time for changes and new attitudes and new activities. I'd like to see us make about 5 moves here, but rather than bore everyone to tears here with more leaf talk, i'll work on it and put it in the other thread "What should the leafs do". Maybe he should just give his body a year of rest and come back a year from now for one last hurrah as a potential free agent signing once we've found our Ontario boy to be the next captain. that's probably the role he should have been in for the last couple of years anyway; Kind of a leadership support role like selanne provided last year with real bonafide leaders surrounding him.
Mccabe is apparently openminded to the islanders, but having gone thru their roster there's nothing there i really like other than Brendan Witt and maybe Andy Sutton. i'm wondering if he'd be open minded to the strangers as well? Id go for mccabe for Jagr straight up just to give us a bonafide real rightwinger for the first time in years. Tucker is the only true right winger on the club, and he's always playing the left side when he's on a line with Blake because of the unusual style of play that blake seems to come with. never seen a left winger spend his entire game on the right wing the way he does.
Watch for this kid Kulemin coming over apparently finally next year. He was Malkin and Ovechkin's linemate for a number of years in the russian junior national teams. if he's half as good as them two, we've got a good one there. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 12:56:50 PM | come on the canadiens
sounds like a sticky situation | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 1:25:13 PM | ive got a great story on vandy (Vandermeer if you dont speak hockey) ok not great story but kinda fun.
anyways not sure on the year, but when vandy played for the rebals me and 2 of my friends went to a hitmen vs rebals game at the dome. this being just a reg season game we had decent seats first near the blueline of the rebals for the 1st and 3rd. anyways after vandy ethier hit someone right in front of us or he got hit not 100% sure had a few lol. we took his number and made him our focal point of the night. everytime he stepped onto the ice we would justbe on top of him.
nothing to rude of heckles, just in annoying voices stuff like "hey Vandermeer your my hero" nice check buddy, and all that fun ribbing. so late in the 3rd periord still on top of him still with the heckles. play gets stopped he skates by us giving us the dirtist look (other then one Ville Nieminen gave me) i have ever had by a pro hockey player. then he said "you guys are ***hole" or close to that extent and skated away.
kinda funny now looking at he has been a great pick up by the flames and any vandy comments now are done for the great way he plays the game.
go flames go
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Posted: 4/2/2008 1:54:03 PM | That's a good story, smack. Out of curiousity, what did you do to piss off Nemo? He seems like he enjoys smack (pun intended) talk and doesn't get ruffled too easily. Did you call him a poor man's Esa Tikkanen?
Go Tampa! I'd love to see Washington make it into the playoffs...but the Lightning need to take care of the Canes tonight in order for that to help the Caps. Also, I'd like to see the Bruins lose tonight.
Here is a scenario that I bet none of you guys thought of. The Chicago Blackhawks still have an outside chance of getting the last playoff spot in the west. It didn't even occur to me and then someone posted it on another website. For that to happen, Chicago has to win all three remaining games, starting with the Wings tonight and the Preds and Nucks have to lose both of their remaining games.
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Posted: 4/2/2008 3:00:42 PM | ok the nemo story happend in 04.
we all went to coyotes a club in calgary, to celebrate the flames beating the wings in game 6. now some of the flames also were out celebration as they should the likes of oliwa, nemo, simon, kipper, and donoven. so you know as the night goes on chatting with the boys, kipper had a smoke lit the whole time one after another, simon smokes also (might explain why he sucks).
so anyways nemo is getting pretty drunk and staggering quite a bit. the ladies seemed to love this guy. one guy yelled at nemo from about 20 feet away "hey nemo, all 3 of these chicks want you" well like a drunk dog in heat nemo started to make his way towards them, as luck would have it he wasnt wacthing where he was going. ran right over top of a table i was standing pretty much beside.
to which i said to him in a laugh "hey just like cujo eh" (if anyone rememebers nemo ran over cujo late in one of the games in this series). i had to say it i mean the play was the same as the way he knocked over the table. but that fin gave me a look like he was going to rip my head off. i just laughed and said good luck and made my way back over to chat more with kipper.
go flames go
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Posted: 4/2/2008 3:45:58 PM | That is pretty funny! I wonder why he'd be angry about that? You think he'd high five you. Maybe he was just pissed because he stumbled in public and thought you were laughing at him. Not like you have to worry anyway, he might only cheapshot you when you weren't looking, but he'd never fight you.
Anyway, I'm surprised at how many players have been smokers and performed at such a high level. Weird! Lemieux, Fleury, Kipper, and even Nemo (in that he can skate and keep up the intensity on the ice). When I tore my ACL a few years back, one of my physiotherapists does physicals for Team Canada and for some of the NHL clubs at training camp. He was telling me how Fleury would smoke before he came in and then light one up as soon as he was done.
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Posted: 4/2/2008 3:57:14 PM | | Guy Lafleur was a chain smoker...2 to 3 packs a day. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 5:21:41 PM | | Ok...the Flyers and the Penguins clearly do not like each other. Anyone watching the game? Pretty gritty and lots of bad blood between the two teams. Watching the fight between Big Georges and Cote made me realize how much I miss the guy on our team. He clearly is needed in the Oilers lineup, especially with all the liberties taken against guys like Hemsky. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 5:33:04 PM | | Yep. Stortini can only take on so much and he's been like a pitbull. Good Sudbury lad. But when it comes to guys like the boogeyman you need a cement head like Larocque back in there. Larocque is apparently 4-0 against him. Zack will be burnt out in 2 years if he has to fight all the heavyweights every year. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 5:43:56 PM | Didn't know he was 4-0 against the Bogeyman! Wow!! Could have used him last night to dismantle Regher and then flatten Iggy for good measure. Oh well, I'm sure that Lowe will be looking for some toughness in the summer.
Holy moly! Already one broken nose in this game and then Gonchar, of all people, elbows Hartnell in the face drawing blood, but no penalty. Crosby has been punched twice in the back of the head and Hartnell elbowed him to the throat and it's not even half over. I like this game. Bobby Clarke must be smiling...oh wait! They just showed him and he is. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 6:04:18 PM | http://watch.tsn.ca/off-the-record/off-the-record---april-1-2008/#clip42243
That was according to Boogard yesterday, but it looks like the video doesn't cover the whole interview. He was on Landsberg's next Question on Off the Record yesterday. They were debating banning fighting in junior hockey. Boogard said Laroque is 'freakishly' strong, which he is. Boogard has quite the knockout punch though. There's a couple of knockouts on his interview.
Wasn't it Larocques problem that he was getting to big for his britches around Edmontown with being on a radio show and stuff? i thought they moved him out when he started thinking he was the franchise, or at least bigger than the franchise. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:02:58 PM | That's pretty interesting. I'll have to search for video clips. I just checked the official stats on both of them and it looks like Laraque has disproportionately large body mass (obviously muscle) when compared to Boogard. Here's how they stack up:
Boogard 25 years old 6'7" 258 lbs
Laraque 31 years old 6'3" 243 lbs
edit: as for Laraque leaving Edmonton, I think he let his celebrity status in Edmonton get to his head. He was loved and, if memory serves me well, he wanted more money. Another disconcerting thing about his play was that he actually started thinking he was a goal scorer rather than the hired muscle. | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:08:08 PM | okay tick...here's my question..........
"who do I have to cheer for in order for the F'team to be out of the play-offs"?...is it still possible?....or do I have to wait and see them get knocked out first round -again-!?...
I know I could just look it up....but tick tock is my Oilerpal, and it just so sounds right when he says it................ | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 7:17:27 PM | Hey lady, nice to see you again. Well, you'll have to cheer for the following to happen:
1) Thursday:
Wild win against the Flames
Nucks win their game against Edmonton
Predators beat the Blues
2)Friday
Predators beat Chicago
3)Saturday
Nucks beat the Flames on Saturday.
Then the Nucks and Predators would be in and the Flames out. Oh yeah, all the Flames losses HAVE to be in regulation time because if they get even 1 point then they automatically clinch a right to be eliminated in the first round...errrr...I mean, playoff spot.
I expect you to start hexing the Flames soon...I'm working on it myself. lol | |
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Posted: 4/2/2008 8:01:33 PM | "Wasn't it Larocques problem that he was getting to big for his britches around Edmontown with being on a radio show and stuff? i thought they moved him out when he started thinking he was the franchise, or at least bigger than the franchise. "
Kevin Lowe would only offer Laraque a two-way contract. Laraque refused. Can't say I blame him. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 7:07:06 AM | Laraque wanted a no trade clause and really, I don't blame Lowe for not giving him one. No player on this team is untradeable, as much loved as many of them are.
In the long run it hurts a team to have a no trade clause for any player. You do want to keep your franchise guys but when they "quit" playing for you with everything they have, they don't deserve to stay on the team.
It would be nice to have another "fan" player again though. Georges was out in the community (okay maybe too much with the ladies but who could blame them?). He was a fan of the fans if you will and that makes you a fan of the team all that much more. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 7:22:07 AM | | i would take stortini over georges anyday.i agree with you with the no trade clause.they are coach killers. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 8:27:41 AM | ohhh i love you guys bugg and tick, your hate for the flames brings me so much joy. man do i love the battle of alberta!!!!! i always woundered if you oiler fans hated the flames as we hate the oilers. your thinking and then cheering for us to not get in is such a romantic idea.
i felt like a cheesy comic book villian in 06 after cheering for every single team the oilers faced. meh my wings failed but take on my sharks. blasted oilers you will never beat the ducks...what well try the caines on for size......YES YES Y....E....S, caines started out great then what no a oilers come back is not going to happen. i must say that game 7 was a hell of a hockey game. i still feel that if the oilers didnt completly shell the caines in game 6 they may have won the cup. seeing the oilers in tears when the dust settled brought me so much joy.
btw goddard and boogard are a awsome macthup, i remember when god gave boo a concussion and boo tried to go to the wrong penilty box.
as for the stortini or georges nethier please.
stort trying to hang on with boo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3QX6u9U4XE&feature=related
see how strot turns in fear and wont even face boo, not enforcer type play.
some real heavy weight fighting god vs boo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iJa0s0dOo4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca28G8iExJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvei-iwMSBY
all good fight boo won a few but god at least didnt turn he faced him like a man.
my fav one though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86wx-cU1n4
hell even vandy at least fought him instead of turning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7QIiEjQGxI
would score this one boo over laraque
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzSy1pyLJio
if you wacth most of the lar vs boo fights they are just getting started and lar starts his wrestling and just take boo down, thats not a win. its being affriad to stand toe to toe with a man.
go flames go
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Posted: 4/3/2008 8:59:48 AM | "i would take stortini over georges anyday.i agree with you with the no trade clause.they are coach killers"
Why? What exactly does Stortini bring to the table, other than comic relief? He's actually a terrible fighter. Sure, he'll go, but he'll fall down. He may get back up again, but I can't remember a fight where Stortini did fall down at some point.
Not that I was a huge fan of Laraque, but all things being equal, Georges is much better at his job than Stortini.
As for no trade clauses being coach killers, I disagree. It's "no movement clauses" that are the worst. And that's what Laraque wanted. With a no-trade clause you can still send them down to the minors. You can't with a no movement clause. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2008 11:31:14 AM | | No trade clauses are both "coach and GM killers". See... Toronto! | |
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