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Posted: 5/26/2008 11:03:08 AM | """...you must have been watching a completely different game."""
Here's a few numbers from the game to shed a bit of light on a pretty dominant performance:
7:19 – Elapsed time in the third period before the Penguins managed a shot on goal. Going back to the second period, the Pens went 9:22 between shots on Osgood.
7 – Shots on goal by the Penguins in the final 40 minutes.
8 – Shots on goal by Detroit's Henrik Zetterberg
10 – Shots by Pittsburgh at even strength. The Penguins were outshot, 27-10, when the teams were playing with the same number of players.
31 – Hits credited to the Red Wings, six more than Pittsburgh.
33 – Shots at goal in the second period by Detroit, compared with just 11 for Pittsburgh. The Red Wings outshot Pittsburgh, 16-4, missed the net 10 more times and had seven other tries blocked. Overall, the Wings took 78 shots at Marc-Andre Fleury; Pittsburgh had just 40 at Osgood, and only 19 in the final two periods.
"""...Pens were lucky to escape the second period with just the 1-0 deficit as the Red Wings seemed to tip the ice toward the Pittsburgh end, finishing the middle 20 minutes with a 16-4 shot advantage..."""
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"Penguins' first task: Get the puck"
In order to do it, the Penguins know they’re going to have to play a little more dump-and-chase than they did Saturday night.
The Penguins did the exact opposite in the second period and wound up with only four shots on goal against the Red Wings’ 16. Due to numerous turnovers at each blue line they had only two decent scoring chances while Detroit had at least a dozen,...The Penguins had only three shots in the third period."
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=364318
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Pens are going to juggle their lines tonight to try and penetrate the interior at Detroit's end of the rink. Pens really have to start taking the body if they're going to have any chance of making this a series. Dump and chase, dump and chase should be their game from here on in. The fancy smancy stuff just plays right into the old red wings hands because they just continually stepped up and picked off passes in the neutral zone. if i were therrien I'd be telling that squad to hit anything in red that moves.
"""...I'm sorry but Pittsburgh didn't show up after the first."""
That was probably the most one-sided two periods of playoff hockey I've seen since the Wings put the boards to the Capitols back in 98. Sending boys to do a man's job seldom works in real life. Time for guys like Malone, Ruutu, Roberts, Talbot, Orpick, Gill et al to play like the men their stats sheet says they are. Then they can maybe open the ice up a bit more for the kiddies Crosby and Malkin. I wonder if Crosby's met Chelios's crosschecking yet in his career. I don't think so. I'm hoping Chelly dresses for at least one game and shows Sid some old time hockey down in the corners lol. Probably every player coming into the league should get to experience that at least once in their career.
"""...Malkin is non existant..."""
One thing for sure; Malkin doesn't like to get his hands too dirty. Philly proved that. Cindy played Ok I thought. At least he was trying hard to make something happen, but the wings just threw a blanket over everything.
This should be a much more physical game tonight. If not, pens can mail it in from here.
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Posted: 5/26/2008 11:33:32 AM | if you are a hockey fan you know-the best player on the other team is always getting hammered-or at least guys are trying to hammer him
sydney crosby has been avoiding guys wanting to kill him since he was around 12-so chelios and his "old time hockey" shouldn't scare him too much | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 12:10:30 PM | I'm watching the playoffs, but I'm already mourning the end of hockey season as a whole. I got turned on to hockey with season tix - 2nd row off the ice - given to me by my company. For the Tampa Bay Lightning who ended up sucking this year, but I'll not be a fair weather fan. I'll be there next year for sure and already I'm counting the days. You think I'm kidding, but I'm not. Opening game is in Prague vs. the NY Rangers and I wish I had the money to go.
For now I'll just have to watch Sid the Kid do this thing. That kid is a marvel. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 4:56:45 PM | Re:"""...just have to watch Sid the Kid do this thing. That kid is a marvel."""
"""When he was leaving, I said, `Do me one favour and don't change anything. Just be the kid you are, the player you are. I met him and I've seen him play. Unless you put two guys on him, he'll kill you in a game. Don't worry about him. He's going to be successful in the long run. ..""
Gordie Howe likes Sid the Kid.
Gordie also wonders about today's game:
"I'd love to be on the team with the money they're paying now," he said with a grin.
He wouldn't love being sent to the penalty box under the enforcement of obstruction fouls that is much more strict today than in his era.
"Just touching a guy with a stick, that's ridiculous," he said of some of the penalties he sees called....
RED WING GREAT HOWE OFFERS ADVICE TO CROSBY
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=238887&lid=sublink01&lpos=headlines_nhl | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 5:25:30 PM | Gotta Love Mr. Hockey back in Hockey Town!
Detroit has not had a big hitter since Vlad Konstantinov now they have Niklas Kronwell the biggest hitter in the NHL. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:07:04 PM | My dad saw all the great Wing teams of the 50's at the Olympia.  He said they were very tough b*stards and intimidated the h*ll out of the opposition. 
Yep, one of our problems is we haven't had a great hitting defenseman since Konstantinov. One of his greatest hits --
Vladimir Konstantinov - Claude Lemieux hit 1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1uhorF5LA
Kronwall is great -- when he stays healthy. 
 GO WINGS!! 
Filppula Scores!!!! The Pengs look shell-shocked. CHEAP FRICKIN' SHOT AGAINST FRANZEN! They wanna play dirty, fine -- Take 'Em OUT Wings!!! | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:26:15 PM | Roberts is a gutless piece of crap.
That punch to the head was sick.
Hopefully the league will step up on that one.
Pittsburgh has been totally dominated and now literally outclassed thanks to Roberts stupidity.
Roberts finally drops his gloves acting as the gutless wonder that he always has been it was against Datsuyk. | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:47:29 PM | | Typical Roberts, what a goon .. Toss him out of the League or send him back to invisiblity (the Leafs) | |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 7:47:56 PM |  Who's that stupid idiot of an announcer that says cheap shots and dirty play is just what the Pengs "need" to get back into the series??? Just what league is he a part of? Dirty play should be condemned no matter WHAT team does it. I wanted to b*tch slap that idiot right there and then.
How about this, why don't the Pengs play some friggin' HOCKEY and quit being such whiney pussies.
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Posted: 5/27/2008 8:48:19 AM | "Who's that stupid idiot of an announcer that says cheap shots and dirty play is just what the Pengs "need" to get back into the series?"
Maybe that's the reason CBC put Bob Cole out to pasture after last night's game.
Jim Hughson will be taking over the play-by-play duties starting tomorrow night in Pittsburgh.
THAT move only comes about 10 years late. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 8:53:50 AM | Typical Roberts, what a goon .. Toss him out of the League or send him back to invisiblity (the Leafs)
and roberts is known for this i take it? | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:02:38 AM | It wasn't Cole who said it.
It was Millen.
Millen was right.(can't believe I wrote that)
Not necessarily about the gooning but Pittsburgh needed to start something, anything to show some life. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:09:27 AM | | i wonder if roberts knew it was franzen he was punching,i also wonder if franzen didnt play it up a tad.(to put it mildly).either way roberts should not play next game.if a was a ref and figured franzen was playing up his injury i would be keeping a close eye to his antics.its poswsible that the lack of respect he showed could come back to haunt him.people ask the refs to call this way or that,but it is tough to do when everyone is acting like pussies. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:45:48 AM | | I'd have to watch the replay but at the time I thought it looked pretty innocent and that Franzen just went down like he was a soccer player | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 10:56:53 AM | | It was a good shot to the head. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 12:09:23 PM | Franzen's downplaying both of the hits he took to his noggin.
http://redwings.nhl.tv/team/console?type=fvod&id=18566&tab=0
Funny how Cindy crosby goes on tv after the game making ad hominems towards the refs about all the clutching and grabbing, but ignores the dirty head shots his squad takes at Franzen as well as all the hits after the whistles. Gill followed thru with pseudo-rough-stuff after the whistle about 6 times, and the one guy tried rubbing Zetterburg out along the wall a good ten seconds after the whistle had gone after a nice rush by Zetterburg. These veiled criticisms of the refs missing all the clutching would lead to a fine if it was anyone other than Bettmans little pet.
Personally i thought it was the pens all night that were the chippier team. Crosby's comments are a joke. If anything, they could have flagged the pens for ten more minors for various unsportsmanlike conduct after the whistles. Fleury clearly got away with a butt end on Holmstrom so i don't know why all the crying by Therrien and Cindy about ozzy. Malone should have just stayed in the penalty box all night for all the good he was on the ice.
Did someone actually ask if he thought Roberts really knew who he was going after? Are we kidding here? lol. I always liked Roberts grit but there's no room in the game for that kind of crap. That was a very cheap shot and hopefully the league will take a look at it today. It was not too much later after that cheap shot that the Pitt d-man tried a similar thing to franzen but got the 2 minute minor for it. Hey, Why not? Roberts got away with a flagrant one moments earlier.
I think now i'd like to see the Wings shut them out both games in Pitt just to shut some of the crying up. Wouldn't that be a neat bit of history for Cindy to be part of; the only club to never score a goal in the Stanley Cup Final. Watch for Crosby to go back to his ways in the Stranger's series with all his diving.
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"""I know our players are frustrated right now. It's tough to play the game."""
Penguins coach Michel Therrien
Children often do get frustrated when they don't get their own way. Give them all a new rattle or a new pacifier, maybe that'll satisfy them for a day.
I really admire the way Dr. Bombay (Babcock) refuses to allow himself or his club to get involved in any of the post-game garbage. Expect to see an even stronger Wings effort tomorrow night. They took their foot off the gas in the second completely otherwise it should/could have been a 6-0 rout.
Lucky the NHL has penalties, otherwise Pens might not have gotten a shot in the first period at all. It was certainly starting to look that way. Shotless and down 2-0 by the 12 minute mark before they got 3 shots on the pp. Add that 12 minutes to the last two periods of game 1 and pens had 7 shots in 52 minutes of hockey. That's exciting. Not. it must just be all the clutching and grabbing that only Cindy and his coach seem to have seen.
Didn't someone say in one of the threads that anyone that thinks the Wings are gonna win this has shit for brains, or is braindead and knows nothing about hockey. I'm sure i read that silly comment somewhere.
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Posted: 5/27/2008 12:57:41 PM | "Anyone who thinks beating Pitt is a cakewalk hasn't watched ANY hockey whatsoever in the past year.
Their defence has improved dramatically this season and their goaltending looks to have come of age.
The one thing they were missing was goaltending and MAF has really proved me wrong. Apparently his exdended time off did him a world of good. "
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can i say it again cake walk. the east is weak and a very boring style of hockey, the play efence they forgot the D. id say anyone that thought the pens hard a shot aginst the west didnt wacth much hockey from the east this year, weak cupcake hockey
my fav comment so true
ZeppelinMan "Pittsburgh Penguins for the 2008 Stanley Cup Go Sid the Kid !!!
just like the Ole Oilers of the 80's"
passionandsong -"you do know that the oil lost you the islanders in a sweep there first time to the finals right?" | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 2:23:37 PM | | If Malkin suddenly shows up, Crosby gets untracked, and the team gets a few lucky breaks, the Pens could very well steal one this series. But I just don't see the Wings rolling over and making this a contest. We've outplayed 'em and now rollin' around in their heads. The Pens only resort is to revert to goon hockey, which they started last game. Whatever the Wings do now in retaliation is fine with me. They started it, we'll finish. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 2:41:19 PM | it was this one that gave me a good chuckle here a week or so ago:
"""...anyone thinking the wings will win this are braindead or have never played hockey."""
Doesn't matter who said it; we've all been wrong a time or two on here, but these wings are somewhat underappreciated if even their own city doesn't sell out to watch these guys. They're a darn good hockey club. Mind you, the old if if's and but's were candies and nuts could apply here as well. Wings didn't have to cross paths with anything physical like the Ducks, Wild, Flamers or Sharks in the early rounds. A round or two with any one of those clubs would have taken a bit of the starch out of these Wings and maybe slowed them up a bit by the time the Finals hit.
I thought Dr. Bombay was taking hallucinogenics last year when he said had Kronwall not gotten hurt they would have gone to the Cup and won it, but after watching Kronwall lay a few out here, I might have to nod in agreement with him. And it's not like Roberts chasing down a sniper like Datsyuk or Franzen. Kronwall hammers the lads that would hammer him back...Ruutu, Malone and Staal so far.
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"""...The Pens only resort is to revert to goon hockey..."""
Motown, fully expect the Pens to revert back to some Patrick division hockey tomorrow night. It's their last gasp here so they'll have to pretend they're playing the Flyers in a regular season matchup here and pull out all the tricks they might have. Like i said, expect a plethora of diving by one key player in particular to try and humiliate the refs into making some interference calls. If the pens can't get the powerplay advantage, they're history. You can start buttering their foreheads cuz they're toast. 5 on 5 is too too one-sided for the wings right now.
Get over into the fast lane grandma, cuz the bingo games about to start.
That's a good one, but I think my favorite of his is:
Beaten like a rented mule.
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Posted: 5/27/2008 4:12:41 PM | Beaten like a rented Franzen....er, mule.
Sterling, truer words were never spoken.  | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:09:02 PM | | scratch my back with a hacksaw is a good one too. Haven't got a clue what it means but that's what is so great about his calls. No one knows what the heck he is talking about | |
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Posted: 5/27/2008 9:14:38 PM | I admit I underestimated the Red Wings.
But I was saying last week that I think the best thing that could happen to these Penguins is to get their asses handed to them in the finals. They remind me a lot of the Oilers of the early 80s and that great team had to lose before winning. I said last week if the Pens win this year it could be a one-off thing. If they lose it could make them all that hungrier. I could still see this Pengiuns team being the next dynasty.
And I still don't but the whole "East is Weak" crap. The red Wings have rolled over every team in the west as well.
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Posted: 5/28/2008 3:50:31 AM | The Pens are a very good team (any team that reaches the finals didn't get there by being pushovers), but even if they win tonight I still think this is the Wings' year.
However, like prairie said, the nucleus of their team is very young so if they stay together and remain injury-free they can be good for years.
 Game 3 tonight....GO WINGS!! | |
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Posted: 5/28/2008 3:51:19 AM | I heard Milbury saying on TSN this morning that the Pens should pull Fleury for game 3. Geez, I don't know about that. Kind of a slap in the face for a kid who has played well throughout the playoffs. I agree that a coach has to try anything when down 2-0, but is Ty Conklin the answer for anything, lol?
Someone on here had mentioned that Nashville was the only team to give Detroit a challenge, and I had to kind of shake my head at that. I'm sure that had you asked any of the Wings in that third period of game 6, they would have told you that Dallas was doing just fine, lol. They were a battered squad and they totally were dominating in that third period. They just couldn't get the puck to go in. Too little, too late, as it were. But after knocking off the defending champs and San Jose, and then making a good run in the Detroit series, nothing to be ashamed about there. Good job, boys! | |
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Posted: 5/28/2008 3:58:59 AM | Yeah I heard Milbury say that too. That's why he's not running a hockey team anymore.
As for Nashville being the only ones to give the Wings any kind of challenge ... you wouldn't have said that 2 games into the series.
The only one to give Detroit any kind of a challenge this playoff season so far has been Dominik Hasek | |
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