| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 4:09:33 PM | There are some "good" men of course but sadly in Australia where I am most males these days want a shag buddy or casual sex. Not saying that is a negative thing but it just seems that the best friend/lover with that body mind soul and heart connection is like trying to find the proverbial holy grail 
I am learning to be true to myself and work on fine tuning who I am so that I will attract a likeminded gentleman and be on the same page or at least same chapter 
In the meantime am glad I have my toys lol 
But seriously not sure why times have changed.... everything seems to be so full on physical so quickly and not getting to know someone and then like the throw away society we exist in many just move right along. I think many are short changing themselves with the rewards a special relationship can bring.
But I live in hope lol  | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 6:49:48 PM | I would like to think there are, what i would like to know is why do men feel they have to lie???????????, it just smashes all the trust that you have built up in them. As women we always find out,so why bother. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 7:58:37 PM | Because of the overwhelming agreement among the women responders, I now believe that there must be some good men out there. But if I read the post correctly (some 26 pages of them) the general concensus is that it is just a matter of time before you will meet one. For the truly optimistic folks.....decade/century and millenium are also measures of time. Good luck!!! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 8:23:19 PM | Ostriplea... WONDERFUL post.. That is exactly what I think guys need to know. I can see right through these guys taking me to dinner and then expecting something in return before the night is out. Most guys think they need something in return for a $2 coffee.
The guys who are new to the dating game are the only guys who will waste time money on treating you to dinner and a movie. It can be expensive and time consuming if you have to do that every time you need some girl to use as a sex toy. The better players don't waste their time with a movie/dinner.. they just go for a 15 minute/$2 coffee and then see if they can get you to go somewhere to see what is in your pants.
You're NOT going to cause a women to feel attraction for you by doing the same boring s*** that the last 81 guys tried on her this month. You're just trying to minipulating her... and SHE KNOWS IT. ..
That should be put in a 'thanks for the date" card to hand them as we are saying good night after the date is over and they didn't get anywhere....... Don't they realize when they are trying to pretend to be someone they think you are looking for, most girls see what they are doing and can predict what they are going to try next?
SOME GUYS ARE SO STUPID.. .. IT IS HARD NOT TO LAUGH!! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 8:43:27 PM | You all have got to be kidding me....? There are good men everywhere.
Go and email somebody.... thats why your here isn't it?
The only thing a wallflower has to look forward to is being pissed on by a passing dog.... | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 8:59:04 PM | Just my humble opinion on this thread. I have noticed in talking to a number of my good female friends that they have run into a gambit of men who say in their post, emails on the phone or in person, "Hey Im a good guy or I am better than anyone you have ever known..." only for them to later find out the guy(s) are full of s***, and lying in one form or fashion.
Yes the intial date sometimes involves trying to impress the other, be that male or female that is doing the impressing, its a dance we all play and have played along time.
However, again most of my female friends simply say, "Why do you (men) need to say your a good man, just show me dont tell me! "I would also say I agree with most of the posters in this thread and the reason for that is a great deal of men have forgotten that they would hate for someone to treat their sisters, daughters and/or mothers or best friend like they will turn around and treat a lady."
The major problem is that men give the male of the species a bad rap for the most part and we have no one else to collectively blame but ourselves.
The other thing is that we all have preference and ideals of what is good to us and what is the perfect person for us. What maybe good to one person is not good to another.
I know I am nowhere close to being perfect (thank God, means I have room for improvement, ) and Im quite sure there are a few exs in my past that would say I wasnt a good man, and there are some that would say I am a good man, but part of life and maturity is growing and realizing that you have your quirks, faults and your bad points, but we all are capable of having good points and finally letting those shine through without having to prove it over and over; (because if you have to prove it you aint learned a damn thing!)
The bottom line is if we men dont learn to respect ourselves and the fact that we were reared by and had women in our lives that nutured and loved us and for the most part treated us with respect, that we wouldnt want someone to "DIS" those women, then we must learn to respect the women that come into our lives now...
Do they deserve any less respect than your (our) mother, sisters or daughters?
From an imperfect imfaliable man, but hoping Im good enough in someones eyes to someday find that one and only and spend our twilight years on a front poorch in a rocking chair with a pitcher of lemonade...forgetting I was ever in a pond 
P.S. for you ladies, us men dont own the exclusive rights to the lying club... there are quite a few of you out there that are in that club as well... Its just a matter of who plays it better or more often?????? | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/5/2007 9:21:48 PM | Brother....You have bought the feminist propaganda hook, line and sinker.
"The major problem is that men give the male of the species a bad rap for the most part and we have no one else to collectively blame but ourselves."
Men are men. We used to define ourselves through manly pursuits but this made the modern woman uncomfortable so she stood up and told men that we were too dumb to know what being a man really is. So we did our due diligence and tried to be the men they wanted us to be. Only to find out that they had no idea of what they were talking about. What does a woman know about being a man? Nothing.
How many women's profiles have you read that are asking for real men? Tons.
I'm sure that you are a good man but for the love of god grow yourself a "pair" and stop endorsing yourself as if you were a guest on "The View". | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 10:10:18 AM | | The biggest problem is, we don't give each other a chance to find out if they are 'good people' . If we only look at the bad qualities in people and not look for the good, we are only and always going to see only 'bad people'. Women can manipulate and lie probably better than men can, because women think with both sides of their brains at the same but but most men can't. Everyone has a reason for everything they do, if it is bad or good. We have to try to find out what that reason is and try to completely understand the person, before we will know for sure what kind of person they really are. That sometimes takes a lot of time, which most people don't give each other. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 12:42:30 PM | speaking of pair, I would say that I have a great set, and for a guy you seem to have watched the View, which I have never bothered looking at.
My friend you seem to forget the need for respect, and pursuing manly pursuits, well how much more manly would you like to get than serving in the United States Army in not one but 2 different combat zones, and being a former cop.... Has nothing to do with being a good man or not...
Oh and the last time checked I didnt see you in any family photos
oh and one other thing feminist aside, equality and gender has nothing to do with it, rather respect for a fellow human being wheather they are male or female has everything to do with...
Perhaps there is a reason you have never been married by the way.... | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 1:46:47 PM | | Its easy enough to say. some men give us a bad rep... or some women give us a bad rep..but if we are judged by other people doings.. or other peoples treatment of others.. how do we ever become our own indivuals...2 things we don't escape in life... is being hurt.. or death...and where i do agree... that it is sometimes hard to move on.. or to trust again....that holding ones bitterness against future dates... is still giving all your power over to the ex's or people who have hurt you in the pass...and in order to have a future and maybe... experience something wonderful.. you have to let go of the pain.. and take the risk... one maybe glad they did..... | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 4:05:49 PM | Hell yes I believe there are some good men left..
If I didn't I might as well blow my brains out after I bend over and kiss my *ss good bye..
I just think that they are very far and few inbetween !!
.o( I refuse to pitch for the other team, so there had better be) 
I have a friend who is a lesbian and jokes with me all the dam time about how men suck and I should switch teams.. I told her hell no, I gota have the real deal, not a strap on !! LMAO | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 9:49:14 PM |
The only thing a wallflower has to look forward to is being pissed on by a passing dog....
Then why don't you move away from the wall..flower? You have already been pissed on by the looks of you.
If you were refering to me you need not worry about it as I get e-mails from men all the time. They do not consider me a wallflower. And from the looks of you I don't think you will be getting very mamy e-mails, since you write very insulting posts.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 10:04:20 PM | I write'em as I see'em.
The very statement "Do you believe there are any good men left?" is an insult to every man.
Every man except for CreoleLibra who likes his job as an apologist. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/6/2007 10:53:59 PM |
I write'em as I see'em.
Then buy some glasses for your eyesight is going.
I look good for my age and am proud of it. I don't care what you think about my looks.
I like me and other men like the way I look and that is all that matters. You are not going to look near as good when you reach my age, if you reach my age. Your hair is already going and you have a nasty attitude towards women. I write them as I see them too, especially when insulted.
The very statement "Do you believe there are any good men left?" is an insult to every man.
I did not start this thread. In case you don't know it there are a lot of men on here that are players, married and looking for something away from home. Men who are only interested in an intimate meeting. So I think it is a legitimate question, not meant as an insult to men, for there are a lot of good men on here. Could be the OT is trying to find out where they are. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/7/2007 7:41:41 AM | Sassymiss,
None of what I have posted pertains to you specifically.
The question implies that at any given moment there are more bad men then good. Since all the good ones have been taken what remains are bad.
This is not a legimate question. The OP is probably feeling hurt at her lack of success here. As maybe the rest of you are as well.
Get over it. This site doesn't promise anyone anything. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 4/7/2007 8:43:19 AM | Damn straight there are good men out there..
Being a single mother of 2 boys 17 and 20..I am teaching them all about respect...
and yes it has to be mutual..so there i see 2 here...lol not to mention i have 4 brothers..
But i too have met some pretty good men on here as well.
Just cast farther....if you keep getting carp...
I mean if you know how to cook carp it can be good i guess lol..
but if your a king crab or lobster kind of person cast farther lol..
ANd never think you can change anyone...
Isan't that always the big misconception, well he will change just give it time..
They won't change , just like i would never change being me for anyone either..
Some are still walking wounded, some are mama's boys, party boys,
lots of different kind of fish out there...
Define a good man?
some might say:
job, house, car , bank account, fancy clothes, wine and dine ya?
How about: honest, caring, loving, respect ,faithful, family oriented, spirtual,
I don't know just gabbing away..
what is a good man can i get a definition? lol | |
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