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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 2:49:57 AM | I'm guessing a guy wrote this...
The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of that which is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope.
- anonymous 
Is that good, or what?
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 3:00:52 AM | | Sure, I think there are tons. Problem is that far too often the jerks, players, womanizers get the results. Just a few months ago there was a girl I was interested in. We hung out a fair bit, went out to dinner, yatta yatta, but the manwhore who wanted to shag everything with tits got her. That gives nice guys/good men (and yes I'd consider myself one) with no incentive to act as such. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 6:02:56 PM | Well I am starting to think there are not any good men left. So my Answer is no
And if you find any out there then by all means feel free to send them my way
Amanda
PS.. As far as I am concerned All men are pigs until they can prove to me other wise!!! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 6:55:21 PM | | I KNOW that there are some VERY good men left! I have a few friends (guys that I've known forever) who are really wonderful guys! They just haven't found the right gals for them yet :) | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 9:40:35 PM | | there is a small percentage whom are but women don't fall for them like they do for the others until they've had a divorce or two or got to over age 40..eventually their eyes open and then expect the good men to accept the package of their divorce with kids...still, some other guy got all her good sweet years | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 9:55:34 PM |
sexydancingprincess:
As far as I am concerned All men are pigs until they can prove to me other wise!!!
With that type of asinine attitude, hopefully all the GOOD guys will be lucky enough to read this forum post and stay far away from you, honey. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/18/2008 9:59:19 PM |
PS.. As far as I am concerned All men are pigs until they can prove to me other wise!!!
That's not going to change either. You are very attractive and that means that many men will be seeking your attention
for less than honorable reasons. With that kind of mess going on it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaffe but with
age hopefully comes experiences and an improved "picker" | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 6:02:23 AM | Yes of course. But they are all married, gay or don't find me attractive. 
Seriously, of course every woman here believes that or there would be no point of being on here. Believe it, hope it, whatever. I have met lots of great men - okay I don't want to date them. But if there are great men in existence, then surely it's just logic that at some point there will be a great one who is single and attractive - and who might actually want to date me too! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 10:29:59 AM |
(brown_eyed_woman) If people really dont believe there are good ones out there...then why are you looking?
(sexydancingprincess) PS.. As far as I am concerned All men are pigs until they can prove to me other wise!!!
Oh, now we're really getting somewhere... This claim by women about there being no good men is not some objective claim about reality, like it sounds.
Rather, it's a maneuver in getting the upper hand, in getting the guy to bend over backwards trying to "prove" to her he's one of the good ones, and therefore presumably that he's worthy of her and will continue doing such work as is in her interest in the future, since the "good guy" status is rarely permanently achieved - there's always some further aspect of him which is suspect. (The one exception, perhaps, is being consigned to permanent Just-A-Friend status... "you're such a good guy...".) Moreover, being a supplicant is to put oneself in a servile or inferior position in order to please a woman, and this usually causes her to lose any respect she may have had for him in the first place.
Pick-Up Artists do kinda the same thing in reverse to women, where it's called a "neg" or "negging someone", which usually involves delivering a mixed compliment/put-down. The idea is to put the target on the defensive, or at least in a frame of mind where she's questioning her own self-esteem and self-worth, and is thus (supposedly) more vulnerable to being pliable and picked up. They no doubt got the idea for doing this from observing and interacting with (certain) women. The difference is that the PUA's don't seem to adopt it as a full-blown psychological stance, but rather as just a short-term tactic.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 8:25:50 PM | | We arent in hiding, we're still out there, just some dont look as nice as others, i get the stigma of bein a rough neck coz of me tat's or beard but if a lady came up and started chattin to us then they will realise that "looks can b deceiving" | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 10:59:46 PM |
There are but the problem these days is women don't care. A good man isn't as important as a good looking man or a wealthy man. So what if they treat a girl like dirt.
Perfect!! Couldn't have said it better myself.  | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:01:43 PM |
there is a small percentage whom are but women don't fall for them like they do for the others until they've had a divorce or two or got to over age 40..eventually their eyes open and then expect the good men to accept the package of their divorce with kids...still, some other guy got all her good sweet years
Again....couldn't have said it better myself!!! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/19/2008 11:15:39 PM | I'd have to agree with pennylane57. I have several guy friends that are the best. They ask me to explain or at least help them understand women. I tell them when the right one comes along, there will be no explanation needed.
I also recently met someone on another site (sorry POF) that I think is a very good man. And what makes me think so??? Simply stated, he communicates with me, expresses his feelings (that's a biggie), listens, makes me laugh & doesn't have to try too hard to do it. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/20/2008 12:19:08 AM | LOL!!! There are plenty of good men out there. I guess alot comes down to ones idea's of what a good man is. One might say a good man is someone who brings flowers, wants kids, and doesn't hog the remote. Another might say a good man is one who Beats her/him around, but says a love you everyone once in a while. There are many good men out there, women are just really good at not finding them. Young, they want something exciting, and fun, and different, and all that. AKA-***holes. As they get older, they start to realize how much they really would like a nice guy, but spent so much time going for and being attracted to what was not so nice, that nice guys are harder to see, harder to read.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/20/2008 12:35:04 AM | I agree with "nice guys are harder to see, harder to read", Ty. I think that after years of meeting the wrong type of men, and hearing for years that men live for "beer, football, food and sex", sometimes it's hard to sort out the ones that are NOT the stereotypical man. I think sometimes we see the nice guy, but instinctively believe that he's "just like the others" and wait for the other shoe to drop. I'm not saying it's fair, because it's not fair by any means. But it still happens. The same goes for all those men looking for a good woman. Men hear that women are just looking for someone to support them and hand over a credit card......and suddenly, even though we're not all like that, we're perceived as of being such. The ones of us that are good women, are passed by, by men in search of that "hot chick", I'd guess figuring that if the money's going to going out the door faster than a rocket, there'd better be a hot woman worth lighting the fuse on that rocket. I think alot of times, we pass the person by that would actually be good for us, out of fear that they will turn out to be the way we've been hardwired to believe that the members of the opposite sex are, and then continue to complain because we can't find the type of person that we're looking for.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 6/20/2008 12:54:05 AM | | I think there are good men out there.... But it seems as though most of the ones I meet fall into one of 3 catergories... They're either involved/married, gay, or there's absolutely no chemistry/have no similarities. | |
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