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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/26/2009 7:20:02 PM | I think part of the problem is some woman want it all, Some choose not to settle for what's right in front of them and hope for something more, even if it never comes. I think from one point of view it's good not to settle because you could always be more happy if things could be better, but you also leave yourself possibly getting disappointed in the end when someone else doesn't come along. A lot of girls describe who they want to be with, but than hold out for that guy that makes 6 figures, is really good looking, ect.
I think there are plenty of decent guys, but in some peoples view a decent guy has to have all the traits your looking for. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/26/2009 7:48:18 PM | | At the risk of sounding like one of the numerous "nice guy" threads, I must say that this thread is absolutely ridiculous. There are many good men in the world; they might not be exactly what you're looking for, but they exist nonetheless. Often times, good men are more reserved, which might make them harder to find among the swarms of obnoxious d-bags, but they are out there. Good men are often right in front of you, and they are often the ones you complain to about how there's "no good men." The real question we should ask is, Why do women put good men in the friend zone and complain that there's no good men? | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/27/2009 12:56:42 PM | | There are plenty of "good" men left around, and not talking about boring, "whipped" ones either, but seems like women pick the losers because it is more of a challenge to them to try and make them good. So they go through the constant drama, complain about their man, break up 10 times, then years later, wake up and realize. Gee, maybe I should find a man who is already dramafree and has their life together. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/27/2009 1:04:48 PM |
Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ? Answer honestly.
Nope... there are NO GOOD MEN LEFT. None. Nada. Aucun. Nichts. Nessuno.
I'm a good guy except I'm separated and have Poly attitudes now... so I'm going to Hell.
My best friend is practically engaged.
My two brothers are taken.
And everyone else is Bad.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/27/2009 1:13:18 PM | | Absolutely. Of course, my definition of "good" may not be the same as yours. I am not looking for a perfect speciman to sweep into my life and ease all my worries. The model of my idea of a good man has definitely changed over the last 20 years as I have been able to prioritize what is important and adjust the criteria to reflect my desires/wants/needs at this point in my life.... quite different than what I would have like 15 or even 5 years ago and likely different from what it will be in 10 years although some fundamentals will never change. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/27/2009 7:29:33 PM | | I most certainly believe there are good men left because I am one of them. I guess most women don't want a really great guy, though. I have always heard, even those women who are around my age, want a "bad" boy one of which I am not. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/27/2009 9:49:30 PM | Yes, there are many good men left, and no, women DON'T only want bad boys...
trust me, those who are good are appreciated; especially those good men who appreciate women and value them in a positive way; not hostile ways.
There are also good women; there are many I see in here (in forums) who say the good guys totally look beyond them (which I don't understand; they all seem like they have TONS to offer) so maybe some of those good men who say the want good women who accept them will also accept those good women who DO...
and vice versa :) | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/28/2009 9:16:58 AM | There are no good men left out there... All the good women found all the good men already and they are happily married... Now all you got left are the Jerks for men and the ****es for women. We are all going in circles keep looking and looking and none to be found... So there are no good people left out there...  | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 7:38:06 AM | *Not All The Good Ones Are Taken*...[My former name, here]...
Widowers, for one, deserve a 2nd chance....if they don't have a Shrine to their Lost Love erected in their den...
Most women are too Picky, Shy, Pre-abused, unattractive or D-D-G and Vain to give a Good guy a decent chance...!!
97% of the rest won't give ANY guy [even Johnny Depp] outside 50 miles of them a second look, once they know how far away they are...
*Distance* is the Major killer of potential perfect relationships...!!! | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 8:07:59 AM |
women DON'T only want bad boys...
Well Moonbeamlover, it sure seems that way a good part of the time. I personally had a conversation with a female friend. She had a couple of previous relationships where the guy was (in my view) a sort of Bad Boy/A-Hole.
I suggested another guy who I knew to be a smart and nice guy. She got in touch with him and she told me after that he was too nice to the point that she would dominate him and she said she wanted more of a... a... ummm... At which point I piped in "I understand... you want to date someone who is more of an A-Hole"...
She didn't even realize that her subconscious was steering her to type of guy.
People (guys too) do a lot of things subconsciously.
Everyone says they want a nice guy/girl... but half of them are lying if you compare their words with their actions.
And BTW... In my view, the Male equivalent to going for the Bad Boy is the desire to date a stripper/escort.
Lots of guys want to date a stripper/escort. Some do. I have a friend that is right now who is dating a stripper.
He has to deal with a lot of BS from her.
But she looks hot and he gets to "Live the Dream" of Dating a Stripper... just like many girls dream of dating a Bad Boy and have him become "good" towards her, but still bad towards everyone else.
I recall this being a popular theme on many soap operas like General Hospital or The Young and the Restless... | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 8:36:19 AM | | Yes! There are a ton of good men left out there. I consider myself one of them. We haven't all found employment, won the lottery, etc. However, we're compassionate people who do our best to leave a worthy legacy to the world and those who we love. We could do a whole lot better if good women became our partners in life. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 12:06:41 PM |
Yes! There are a ton of good men left out there. I consider myself one of them.
No Michael... you're wrong. You're a Defective Bad Man like me.
I checked your profile... you're divorced. I'll have the same status before long... I'm on my way with my 'Separated' status.
Also you said you're blind. While I don't have that issue, I do have the defect of having asthma. Like you, it doesn't stop me from living life. But from the point of view of many woman, they'll say "See ya" upon learning this.
You also mention that you have spacial issues and have trouble with directions. From a dating perspective, that's comparable to me talking about how I like to ride my bicycle to work. Yup... that'll get you a "don't call me, I'll call you..."
You also talk a lot and express yourself very well... probably as good or better than me.
Girls don't want that. Oh sure they all say they do. But really I've observed they want guys who share... but only share on their terms.
To share on *our* terms what we want to share and share more than most are comfortable with makes both you and me Defective Bad Men.
(Note that these words are meant to be taken as having a joking tone)
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 4:07:42 PM | | Fortunately, this blink can take a joke even if there's a sad sort of truth to it. I am, afterall, he who walks in darkness. How did that Gowen song go? "A criminal mind is all I've ever had. Ask one who's known me if I'm really so bad. I am!" Delicious lyrics. Guess we both might as well embrace the dark side of the force, or should that be di vorce? I've even got a theoretically white shiny stick ready to hand. I tend to presume people in charge of white cane manufacture know a little more about colour than I do. Asking for a nice woman to come along is, I suppose, possibly a bit of a stretch but hoping to God that my cane actually reflects a car's lights doesn't seem like I'm doing an Oliver Twist does it? Best of luck to you. By the way, you're not too shabby with writing. | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 4:08:54 PM |
Well Moonbeamlover, it sure seems that way a good part of the time. I personally had a conversation with a female friend. She had a couple of previous relationships where the guy was (in my view) a sort of Bad Boy/A-Hole.
allright, some women DO only want the a-hole as you call them...
Some of them have been abused and only want someone who treats them the way they view themselves.
Some of them are "fixers" who want to take the bad boy and domesticate him
some of them are "go for what they can't have" knowing that they will forever be yearning for one that will be forever out of reach.
but women who are comfortable in themselves, who are comfortable in give and take, VERY much appreciate the good guy. Personally, I don't date bad boys. I don't "fix" them. I don't "try and land them".
For me, I have to respect a person that I am friends with or date; just as I'd hope they'd respect me.
And the second someone treats me bad, disrespectful, callously or devil may care (not even me, the second they treat ANYONE that way), I wish him well and go on my merry way. There is nothing that is more a turnoff for me than a person that treats anyone that way; me or anyone else. The God's gift people who feel they are 'above" people, I guess I have never seen the appeal, and the more people circle them the wider a berth I give them. Maybe I'm weird, but I honestly don't think I'm THAT weird. I dated enough beautiful people who had absolutely nothing else of any substance to offer to care anymore what a face looks like; there has to be another dimension or else what's the point?
I treat everyone with respect, and that is one thing I do expect back. if someone can't do that, if I am not someone who totally floats someone's boat, on earth would I invest a ton of emotion and time in them when I'm getting nothing back? It would be a total waste of time and energy... it has to be two way.
Give me the good guys every time... as long as they are are respectfully good, not annoyingly ingratiatingly good. They have to have self respect as well as other people respect.
I think that is one place good guys have a tougher time. They need to hold their heads up high, KNOW they will float someone's boat and know that they are awesome as they are and someone will appreciate them for that, and not expect automatic rejection.
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 4:20:18 PM | Hi Michael,
"A criminal mind is all I've ever had. Ask one who's known me if I'm really so bad. I am!"
That's off the album Strange Animal... I have that album from Gowan... on Vinyl.
I believe Criminal Mind was the last song on the album if I remember correctly.
And to give you some more words:
"Some people struggle daily
They struggle with their conscience
Until the end
I have no Guilt to Haunt me
I feel no wrong intent."
That was a really good album.
And I've gone to the dark side already... but not completely dark.
It's more like I've gone to the side of 'Insufficient Light' as I've been Darned to Heck (as opposed to being Damned to Hell). | |
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 4:54:56 PM |
I dated enough beautiful people who had absolutely nothing else of any substance to offer to care anymore what a face looks like; there has to be another dimension or else what's the point?
Moonbeamlover,
Now that you've mentioned it... I've been thinking of going in the opposite direction of you. I'm looking to be so shallow that I can hook up with someone so shallow that they won't know what day of the week it is half the time.
I'm envisioning living in an ignorant shallow bliss...
I joined the YMCA and I've been working out and trying to get my body into the 'beautiful people' category.
That's stage one of my plan.
Stage two is to get a car with bling... Do you think I should get a Tarted Up Honda Civic with an exhaust I can fit my head in or should I get a Cadillac Escalade? Both of these would have stereos that go BOOM BOOM BOOM and windows so dark you'd have trouble seeing out of them in the day.
Or maybe I should get a Pontiac Fiero with a Ferrari body kit... Hmmm... Hey why is thinking starting to hurt?
Stage three is to get rid of my inner substance. I think I'll start by reading Cosmo and Muscle and Fitness magazine... then brush up on my txt speak... and then work on losing all inner feeling.
Stage Four... Start to define myself by the gadgets I own... A good starting point is to get an IPhone, find some friends who like to talk about nothing all day so I can futz with my IPhone all the time and keep it permanently logged into Facebook.
OMG i can fel it hapinin wile i tipe
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| Do you believe that there are some Good Men left ?
Posted: 8/31/2009 5:10:13 PM | Im sure there are some good ones left but you have
to remember where YOU are in this stage in life and
what you are attracting.
I was doing drugs. I met a man. I believed everything he said to me
because I was damaged. He was damaged too but I could not see it because
I was damaged hence attracting what we are - at the time.
I wanted to fix him . I wanted to make him happy. I wanted to take all
his pain away because I "knew" what pain was because I was hiding it
in my addiction.
I got off drugs. I started to heal. He didnt. He was still that damaged man
when he came here. His behaviors were still the same. I expected him
to be different because I was different now.
He was still the same. He is still the same, Im sure.
So I believe that where we are in our life is what we attract. Are there nice
guys- sure there are but you have to understand where we are and what
we want at that point when we meet that "nice" guy. | |
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