| | That's just the way people dance these daysPage 3 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) | gotta get footloose!
the absurdity of my statement?? you took absurdity to a whole new level, friend. thinking that dancing in a club and stripping is one in the same?
don't thump me with that bible please. and welcome to the new millenium
it's dancing, nothing more. not every interaction between a man and a woman has to be sexual.
relax, have some fun and go get freaky with your lady.
HB - latin dancing is very sensual, the music itself is sensual. just make sure i can see light between you and your dance partner young lady!!!!
now i'm reminded of the school principal that was lifting up girls dresses to make sure they didn't wear thongs to prom.
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:08:13 AM | is the guy nude? is the woman? that is the difference. i can't believe people would actually think they are the same.
My one and only lap dance involved a dancer with her panties on. Exactly the same? No, but very similar.
puritan much? Naw, no one is suggesting these men and women be burned at the stake. All I think anyone is saying is that this sort of so-called 'dancing' should be limited to singles or couples that give consent to their partners. In the OP's post no consent was given and many women here are acting as if it is their god given right to grind bodies with strangers relationship or not.
it's DANCING! Or you could call it dry humping to a beat
it's rarely sexual for the woman, come on! I think you are missing the point dear. A husband could have sex with a prostitute, and it wouldn't be sexual for her, does this make it right? Of course not. I believe every guy has a right to expect his partner to reserve that sort of contact for himself alone in a commited relationship. We are afterall talking about a husband and wife here.
i don't want attention paid to my mind at a club. i'm out to have fun, hang out with my friends and get my drink on. yes, let's be honest
And that's all fine and dandy. Just don't expect many men you find yourself dating seriously to be ok with that. IMHO, if a woman needs that sort of attention, she isn't ready for anything deeper than a one-night stand. And again, that's cool, just be honest about it. If you and a guy start to date on a regular basis, don't accuse him of trying to change you just because he finds that sort of activity inappropriate. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:12:02 AM |
... thinking that dancing in a club and stripping is one in the same?
Wrong. Not me.
...don't thump me with that bible please.
Not one citing from the Bible by me.
and welcome to the new millenium
Ah yes, the one w/ the high divorce rate and neglected children. Yes. Welcome.
it's dancing, nothing more. not every interaction between a man and a woman has to be sexual.
Enjoy your naivety, I'm sure it'll serve you well.
relax, have some fun and go get freaky with your lady.
Hey, something out of your mouth that makes sense. Let's end on that note. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:16:13 AM | | Latin dancing is nothing like the dancing I've seen in clubs (grinding pelvis to pelvis with strangers). I don't think it's the way people dance these days but rather the way SOME people dance these days. To each their own. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:17:12 AM | My one and only lap dance involved a dancer with her panties on. Exactly the same? No, but very similar
ok, i'll come to work in just my panties tomorrow and see if anyone notices.
I think you are missing the point dear. A husband could have sex with a prostitute, and it wouldn't be sexual for her, does this make it right? Of course not. I believe every guy has a right to expect his partner to reserve that sort of contact for himself alone in a commited relationship. We are afterall talking about a husband and wife here.
ok, i'll dance with kev and have sex with him and see which one he likes better. i mean since they are so similar maybe he won't even notice the difference
And that's all fine and dandy. Just don't expect many men you find yourself dating seriously to be ok with that. IMHO, if a woman needs that sort of attention, she isn't ready for anything deeper than a one-night stand. And again, that's cool, just be honest about it. If you and a guy start to date on a regular basis, don't accuse him of trying to change you just because he finds that sort of activity inappropriate.
i'd ask him but he's at lunch. it's not about needing attention. it's about going out, having fun and not being so uptight. of course i'm seriously involved with a self proclaimed feminist. he's just that secure i guess. he wouldn't try to change me even if he thought he could. it's just a little booty shakin' relax already
it's dancing, nothing more. not every interaction between a man and a woman has to be sexual.
Enjoy your naivety, I'm sure it'll serve you well.
i have a one on one meeting with my boss later. should i bring the KY or him? | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:25:23 AM | | I work in a plastic plant and we make dildoe shells so I guess everytime I pass on a box of them we're having a sexual interaction....who knew?pmsl | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:25:46 AM | not a chance anyway
but if he asked me to dance....................
HB - hahahahahaaaaaa!!! but are you fully clothed when you do that? that's the key!! | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:28:46 AM | Sigh....how I wish people understood proper analogies
i'd ask him but he's at lunch. it's not about needing attention. it's about going out, having fun and not being so uptight. of course i'm seriously involved with a self proclaimed feminist. he's just that secure i guess. he wouldn't try to change me even if he thought he could. it's just a little booty shakin' relax already
It could be that he's just 'not that into you' Sorry, had to say it. I hear it ALL the time from some women who all read the same books.
But seriously, I'm happy you have someone who isn't troubled at all by your lifestyle choices. That's wonderful, honestly. But the other 99% of us males are a little territorial when it comes to our ladies. No one is saying that you are wrong to do what you do, so relax already. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:34:14 AM | Ohhhh, the grinding is sexual. :-) It feels very good for that reason, especially with the music going and the lights flashing so you only get to see glimpses of the person you're dancing with (if you happen to be facing him). Sort of like extreme flirting.
As someone said earlier, it seems the woman (in the article) just doesn't see anything wrong with it.
And what if the guy then buys her a drink and wants to dance some more? Sounds like a lap-dance to me
Question: When did people start using the word "junk"? What a horrible word, blech. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:38:16 AM | Jeez, leave for a little bit and everyone goes nuts. Just a couple of points to random posts. 1. I would never defend strip clubs. I’ve never been to one, don’t care to ever go to one. 2. This I know came from SI ... In the OP there was no mention of whether or not the woman in question did anything to dissuade these men from rubbing their genitals on her. I am assuming that she is making no effort to do so. The fact the she brought this up to her hubby shows me two things: First, she likes the attention and second that she wants her hubby to be jealous. That’s “inviting” to me. 3. Again, to SI, I do know what it’s like for a woman on the floor of a club. It’s not like I have never been to one. But I also know if you tell a guy to get lost, he will. No matter how hot he thinks you are, he’s looking to get laid. If you respond positively, he’ll stay with you. Tell him to f&ck off and he’ll move on to try elsewhere. If it’s unwanted attention to the woman mentioned by the OP, she wouldn’t put up with it.
IMO, the bottom line to the OP is that this woman is playing psychological games with her husband. It shouldn’t be tolerated. He needs to give her two options: cute the crap or walk. Like I said, this whole thread is just another piece of evidence in my case against relationships. They serve to do nothing more than drive you nuts. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:38:20 AM | bye HB - be safe and try to refrain from having sex at work that you were unaware you were having.
dea - my lifestyle choices??? overly intense? yes i think so.
i haven't read that book you're talking about but i've heard it's good.
so when a guy doesn't try to control you, isn't overly jealous and is secure enough to let me go out with my girls means he doesn't really like me?
hehehehehe, you're so cute!
fyi, it might not be a good idea to use the world territorial. kinda sounds like you're wanting to piss on women to mark your territory.
it's also cute you're telling me to relax. i'm not the one living in fear some gal with a bigger booty than mine is gonna take my man | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:43:21 AM |
so when a guy doesn't try to control you, isn't overly jealous and is secure enough to let me go out with my girls means he doesn't really like me? Ha ... believe it or not, this is exactly what my ex told me when she walked out  | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:43:29 AM |
Question: When did people start using the word "junk"? What a horrible word, blech. Answer: Probably about the same time asses became super-sized? And I totally agree, horrible word for a bottom. My favorite is rump. Say it with me.....Ruuuuuuump! Sounds like a booty doesn't it?
As someone said earlier, it seems the woman (in the article) just doesn't see anything wrong with it.
Probably because it isn't about sexuality so much as it is attention. And don't tell me it isn't or you wouldn't go into a very crowded place to do it. If the act of 'dancing' itself were the only real motivation, you'd be just as happy doing it at home with.....*GASP* your man?!?!?
I'm seriously wondering which happens more for these women: going out for a little harmless 'booty shaking' or dancing for their men?
Ohhhh, the grinding is sexual. :-) It feels very good for that reason, especially with the music going and the lights flashing so you only get to see glimpses of the person you're dancing with (if you happen to be facing him). Sort of like extreme flirting.
Thank you GypsyGirl!!
But as I've said, if your guy is fine with it, then more power to ya! But if he isn't and this is something you know you are going to do, he deserves to know. Guys that go to strip clubs knowing it bothers their women are being just as disrespectful. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:44:11 AM | she may be playing games, yami. seeing as i don't know her and i'm no better than anyone else i can't pass judgements.
i know when i go out with my girls there is no dancing that is out of hand. no one touches anything other than my back or hips. and when the song ends 9.9999999 out of ten times it ends with a thanks, maybe a hug and then we're gone.
relationships only drive you nuts if you let them
then your ex must have been smoking crack. jealousy has nothing to do with love. nothing. it won't prove how devoted he is, only how unstable.
i thought most reasonable adults knew that | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:50:01 AM | SI, My ex had major problems with the fact that I never got jealous. She told me that my feelings should be stronger. She told her best friend (who also happens to be one of my close friends) that the fact that I never got jealous told her I didn’t love her. Her friend thought that as ridiculous a statement as I did. So, maybe if I ever get in another relationship, I need to be controlling and jealous? Hmmm ... that gives me exhibit H. Women want you to be jealous when they want you to be jealous but not to be jealous when they don’t want you to be jealous ... Now I get it ... *sigh*
Oh, and no matter what you do, relationships will always drive you crazy. Hey, that’s exhibit I ... I’m really on a roll today
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:51:12 AM | junk means genitalia, not butts
i'm sure june cleaver did all kinds of dancing for ward but these days women are allowed to go to drinking establishments. just trying to catch you up here. i go out dancing with my friends. my sweetie means everything to me but i do need my own time out. he needs his. if i told him i have to stop hanging out with my friends to dance for him he'd probably think i went nuts.
you do realize it's coming off like you want to control and dominate your lady. that's scary. you may not mean it that way, but that;s how it sounds
dancing isn't sexual for me. flirty, yes. sexual not so much. strange doesn't get it done for me. it's fun, that;s it. try some.
you're still on this strip joint = dance club thing. why?
So, maybe if I ever get in another relationship, I need to be controlling and jealous?
why are you asking me this? didn't i just say jealousy has nothing to do with love? yep. i think i did. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:55:17 AM |
dea - my lifestyle choices??? overly intense? yes i think so
SI, please stop trying to turn everything anyone says into a personal attack on you. Didn't you just say that you don't need attention? Hmmmm....
As for my choice of words, everything is a lifestyle choice. Me sitting here typing a forum post when my ass should be getting some sleep is a very poor one, lol.
i haven't read that book you're talking about but i've heard it's good.
Naw, every psychologist worth their salt has summed it up as 'gender war drivel for the masses'. You can't assume anything about anyone based on something as non-descript as gender.
so when a guy doesn't try to control you, isn't overly jealous and is secure enough to let me go out with my girls means he doesn't really like me?
hehehehehe, you're so cute!
Awwww, thank you But seriously, I was just offering a possibility, nothing more. Some of my girl friends have met 'the perfect guy' only to find out later that the reason he wasn't controlling or jealous was because he simply didn't care about much of anything as long as the booty kept flowing.
fyi, it might not be a good idea to use the world territorial. kinda sounds like you're wanting to piss on women to mark your territory.
Ewwwwwww! Let me explain... I don't tell my girlfriends what to wear. I don't tell them when to be home. But I'll be damned if some other dude's shlong comes within a foot of her booty. Not on my watch...
it's also cute you're telling me to relax. i'm not the one living in fear some gal with a bigger booty than mine is gonna take my man
Living in fear? Me? Ain't no ho gonna take MY man!  | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:55:29 AM | at any rate, this is what it comes down to
some women think dancing is sexual
some don't
some guys want to control their women
some don't
let's just try to hook up with like-minded people and there will be no problems.
for me it has to be a guy who would feel jealous only over things that are real and talk to me before he divorces me.
Some of my girl friends have met 'the perfect guy' only to find out later that the reason he wasn't controlling or jealous was because he simply didn't care about much of anything as long as the booty kept flowing.
so you're saying that most guys that manage to be mentally stable don't care about the woman they are with?
listen, i've dated more men than you and i know this is not the case.
also, i don't take anything as a personal attack. i know we're just talking here. i'm not mad at you. that would be silly | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 10:55:33 AM | SI, That’s the whole point I have been trying to make in this thread. The woman the OP mentions is clearly trying to intentionally make her hubby jealous. IMO, that’s a divorceable offense.
By the way, you did say overly jealous. | |
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| That's just the way people dance these days Posted: 10/10/2005 11:00:49 AM | but we don't know that for sure. it just says what she does and wht she said about it. it doesn't ever give her motive.
she could be a head case. who knows. i'll even give you that she probably is but like i said, we don't know for sure | |
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