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Posted: 3/20/2006 9:32:57 PM | saiyan1-Agree totally with you re: the reaction to GSP, and the US crowds treatment of Canadian fighters in general. I'm not saying we wouldn't cheer for our guys in a match like that, but I think we would show more respect to the American fighter then the American fans showed to GSP. I think you are right that some fans must still be thinking of wrestling(WWE) or something when they boo our guys simply cause their nationality. It's like we are the new Russia, Iraq or Iran!LOL! Kind of funny really, but sad too. I didn't realize we were the enemy now. I guess if we don't support EVERYTHING the states does, some people will consider us traitors or something. And God forbid one of our boys have a french accent, then look out! Whatever...we are an independent nation that will sometimes decide our best course of action is not neccessarily the same as the states. We also are multi cultural nation, but one that has a fair percentage of people with a french heritage. If that makes us the enemy in some peoples eyes, what can you do? It just shows a lack of education/intelligence on their part in my opinion(the American fans that boo Canadians based on these things).
That's why I love the Japanese crowd. They always respect all the fighters, no matter what nationality they are. They have their favourites too, and definitely love it when their own do well(what nation doesn't?), but they still support and politely cheer for every fighter. Even if a guy comes out and gets smoked they get cheered, cause they respect their fighting spirit, and the fact they had the ball$ to even get in there. I wish all MMA fans were like this.
With regards to the upcoming UFC fights. I would say Arlovski SHOULD win again...but you never know. He is a just as powerful as Sylvia, and is much quicker, so I figure it should last a little longer then the last one, but the result will probably be similar. It's too bad really, Arlovski doesn't have a lot of legit competition in the UFC heavyweight division. I still think he has chin issues, and can be beat, but I'm not sure if Sylvia is quick enough to test that chin. From what I've seen or Arlovski though, IF Tim does land one big bomb, it will be lights out. I know he's improved a lot since those early loses(Rizzo, etc), but you either have a good chin, or you don't, and I'm still not convinced he is as good as he has looked lately. How would he do against the top Pride heavyweights I always wonder...Not so well IMO. He's a top 10 heavyweight for sure, maybe even top 5, but I still think there is 3 or 4 Pride heavy's that would take him.
As far as Tito vs Griffin, I will have to take Tito. His wrestling is far superior, he's stronger, and he's always in great shape. Griffin's only chance IMO is to try to keep it standing, and I'm not sure he can do that. I think Tito will win via ref stoppage...probably in the 2nd round. | |
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Posted: 3/27/2006 5:01:43 PM | Agreed on that. But even if griffin does keep it standing, his game is too sloppy for a vet like ortiz. Plus, if Tito lost, how would that look for TUF 2?
I want gracie to beat hughes badly but then we wont get to see Hughes-GSP 2. Its kinda like a win-win but lose-lose situation | |
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Posted: 3/31/2006 12:01:29 AM | | I love Forrest; who else has a game plan of getting punched in the face and then see what happens? But Tito's a lunatic. Would love to see the upset, but its almost like they are throwing Forrest to the wolves. Has he fought anyone of Tito caliber? Jeremy Horn would be the closest I can think of, and he lost that fight. He's crazy and tough, but Tito is that plus quick and skilled. | |
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Posted: 4/3/2006 6:38:04 AM | I agree with both hurricane and drrilll; I dont think Forreat has the skills to beat Tito.. he has heart, and can take a pretty good beating (and still smile!), but I think, after reviewing both this weekend.. that Tito will win. All I can say is....Run Forrest run!
And yeah.. what a catch 22 huh? I want Gracie to win as well, but not at the expense of seeing GSP demolish Hughes...
Just to update... my "manager" who is currently in BC is setting me up for some qualifying fights for the KOTC and also the UCC in a few weeks.... in Alberta. April 26th I believe he said on the phone last night. I might be fighting there and/or BC soon... so it might not be in Montreal as I thought earlier. Ill be in Tito and Forrests weight class too... the 205 lb. light heavyweight division...
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Posted: 4/18/2006 5:47:45 AM | The last UFC... #59 ... sucked.
Arlovski isnt as bad assed as alot of you were saying...
he can give a beating but cant take one.
My time will come soon.... | |
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Posted: 4/18/2006 11:09:59 PM | when and where Saiyan........we need some fighting in BC....... I'm in a tourney in kelowna next month........and shodan in June........... read the message will ya?? | |
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Posted: 4/25/2006 12:10:23 PM | Got it chinua... sent one back..
as for my present competition... its moved to Vegas, where Im still not cleared to travel to. The K.O.T.C. hasnt announced where the next trials will be... but Ill be at the next canadian one. Im exploring the UCC and especially the TKO circuit, plus some local stuff to keep me sharpened up in the mean time. My managers MMA connections... are still foolin around in Cali at a few dojos after attending UFC 59, so things are a lil slow.. but i do have one...probably two, and working on a third sponsor. My muscle mass has increased to the point that Im considerin the 225lb (heavyweight) class... but Im thinking theyll be too slow to offer me real tight competition.
Cant wait though... time MMA gets redefined and taken to the next level.
Well... Im off... my new stretch machines just come in... cant wait to embrace more pain! lol
Ill try to get some trainin pics up soon... been puttin in some ring time.... | |
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Posted: 4/25/2006 3:51:45 PM | | Ya MMA is the only sport that I follow. I can't think of watching anything else in its place | |
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Posted: 4/26/2006 9:51:38 AM | | I had my first sanctioned match in 1991, although not a UFC sanction, so yeah, i guess i been watching it too..lol | |
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Posted: 4/28/2006 4:31:37 PM | I missed the reality show last night which I absolutely adore. If anyone knows the outcome and wants to take the time to let me know then that would be wicked! Thanks.
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Posted: 5/1/2006 12:40:24 PM | yeah...
Team Punishment (aka team Ortiz) won again, and he and Shamrock almost went at it again... Ortiz pulling Kens strings as usual. Gotta say... Shamrocks coaching strategies... suck!!
BTW.. those in the Toronto area might be interested in the MMA Expo coming up May 13-14...
Hominick and Severn are the slated celebs... | |
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Posted: 5/1/2006 2:44:48 PM | | Carlos Newton will be there too. Definitely thinking of attending this one, since I missed it last year. Anyone go last year? Any good? Any info would be appreciated. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2006 12:43:04 PM | Well... seems like no ones here anymore...
too bad.
i went to the MMA Expo and met Carlos Newton AND Mark Hominick. Although I didnt get to participate.. it was very interesting to closely watch their clinics and seminars.
I also made important MMA contacts, especially with the TKO group. Til I get a MMA fight...
Ill be messin around in a few things, including... MAYBE a BJJ tournament in Toronto in June, a Thai meet this summer, and an open karate kumite. Figger...ill work on a few specific areas while I await my opportunity...
and respects to -SENSI- who was a regular here... til his POF account got suspended. Miss his 2 cents!
Well..seems, like I said, that no ones here anymore, so I bid all farewell, and thank Jack for starting this forum!
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Posted: 5/15/2006 4:26:30 PM | Love it compete in it, have teammates who actually fight in the UFC, my boy Mark just beat the #1 lightweight Yves Edwards in his first UFC fight.
as for the Kumite stuff, guys talk like that everywhere you go, deadly this and that. Just because I have to fight by rules in a cage, it does not prevent me from breaking the rules in a "real" survival fight, I can go for the weak spots just as well as anyone else.
However, when you are getting GnP'ed its easy to "talk" about what you would do but seeing as you dont train for that and instead train in "hypothetical" dim mak BS, then odds are you would just let your instincts take over, cower up and get hit until you are out cold.
trust me, everywhere I travel you run into these "too deadly traditional matial artists" who can never put their simulation into reality.
the earlier UFC's were great, less sklill as they were all "traditional" martial artists...even scott morris the "ninjitsu" guy who got destroyed by a guy who was a kick boxer pat smith.
there are open challenges that go on still at some places for these "killer" moves TMA guys, some take up the challenge but most rather talk about it, alot of people wont step into the ring/cage for fear of being emarrassed.
I say walk the walk dont talk the talk, I can gladly give the info if someone wants to show up and take the challenge themselves, will even take video and post it up and link it to here after.
dont forget, how hard yopu can hit on a stationary target is pointless, I dont care if you have 700 pounds per square inch or not, what training do you think you have that makes you hit any harder than I do? technique is important for sure as are other factors, but my technique is applied to guys trying to do the same, not a friggen wooden board or a brick. take those 2 seconds to focus and watch what happens, you get your face smashed...try to focus during that.
do some of you guys believe in how "effective" brue lee's one inch punch is still?
if ya want to "beat up" chuck liddel, I might be able to arrange that, maybe next time he comes down to london...after all you are in Ontario...maybe you could train with him and tell him that personally, dont worry, if you dont want to mention it I will tell him for you
seriously, if you have some hidden "chi" to dim mak people, then lets not "talk" about it, lets get it on home video and all laugh about how badly wrong it went after | |
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Posted: 5/15/2006 4:28:27 PM | ahh sorry I didnt read the last post.
so you met mark, shawn and sammy?
did you tell them that MMA is bullshit in a real fight?
also, whats your name? I am just curious, you say you are fighting UCC and TKO?
not to be mean and call bullshit on that but you do know that the UCC had some "issues" and changed the name to TKO...they are one in the same and have been for a couple years now. If you contacted them then you were talking to stephane? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2006 10:18:52 PM | Love it compete in it, have teammates who actually fight in the UFC, my boy Mark just beat the #1 lightweight Yves Edwards in his first UFC fight.
Yves Edwards? He must be pretty good.
as for the Kumite stuff, guys talk like that everywhere you go, deadly this and that. Just because I have to fight by rules in a cage, it does not prevent me from breaking the rules in a "real" survival fight, I can go for the weak spots just as well as anyone else.
Agreed.
However, when you are getting GnP'ed its easy to "talk" about what you would do but seeing as you dont train for that and instead train in "hypothetical" dim mak BS, then odds are you would just let your instincts take over, cower up and get hit until you are out cold.
I've only been in this situation on the mat, but I can attest it is tough to get out of. The MMA guy I was with had me pinned on the shoulders and we were (roughly) the same weight, although he was (somewhat) more stronger and experienced. I know a few things about BJJ and what not, but merely trying to roll out of something like that with someone is raining punches on you is tough. Dillman pressure point knowledge isn't enough.
trust me, everywhere I travel you run into these "too deadly traditional matial artists" who can never put their simulation into reality.
the earlier UFC's were great, less sklill as they were all "traditional" martial artists...even scott morris the "ninjitsu" guy who got destroyed by a guy who was a kick boxer pat smith.
I did Taijutsu for under a year, and found it much to be desired. No sparring, not even light contact. No actively resisting partners. The 'spirit of the three hearts practice forms' were even less practical than your typical TKD kata. Very little drills involving heavy bag practice, or ways to develop speed and power in technique.
Taijutsu followers say it takes time to make it functional. Why waste a long period in a questionable art when other avenues yield better results?
Perhaps other dojos are different, and some incorporate even Escrima/Silat stuff in their program. Personally, I would rather stick with the Kali/Silat area with old weapons/weapons training if anyone likes that---it was head and shoulders above anything the Bujinkan shidoshi knew at the time.
As for unarmed styles, if no one likes full contact, at least one can find an available gym and give contact fighting a college try. No one is being forced to compete. But it is an eye opener; I say that from experience.
if ya want to "beat up" chuck liddel, I might be able to arrange that, maybe next time he comes down to london...after all you are in Ontario...maybe you could train with him and tell him that personally, dont worry, if you dont want to mention it I will tell him for you
Hell, personally, I wish I could TRAIN with Liddell just for a few weeks. The guy's striking power is outstanding.
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Posted: 5/16/2006 12:34:15 PM | Where to start... lets see...
However, when you are getting GnP'ed its easy to "talk" about what you would do but seeing as you dont train for that and instead train in "hypothetical" dim mak BS, then odds are you would just let your instincts take over, cower up and get hit until you are out cold.
First of all.. how do you know what I train, or how I train? Where did I EVER mention anything about dim mak training? As for my "instincts" how the hell would you know? maybe... youre really referring to yourself.
I think..Ill go point- form to respond to the plethora of shit Gt99 has slung my way...
- When I mentioned in my last posting about a karate kumite...its obvious you dont know squat about what Im referring to. The term "kumite" in KARATE is not the same as we see in the movies. Most karate dojos have inner kumites every week, as chinua would tell you. The kumite I was thinkin of participating in.. is an official sanctioned event in the Karate community. Dumbass.
- Where did I ever say i WANT to beat up Chuck Liddel? I just hypothesized what might happen if I fought him, and I wrote it at a time when i had no interest in competing in MMA. I do NOW, and its to deal with guys like you. To put up, as youd say, so I can shut up. And shut YOU up.
- You say you have connections in the MMA world! Sweet! Now YOU put up or shut up... seeing as youre bragging that you can set up a fight with me and Liddel. Do you know how stupid YOU sound? You could arrange it, huh? Id like to see that! Im game! ok...you might be talkin truth... but so might I be. All Ive said.. centers around myself, and not who I know or dont know.
-As for "deadly" martial artists... the do exist... maybe you dont know, or care to. All I know... is that my real track record...is on the street. I dont care about a persons TMA/MMA background there... just winning and not getting caught after.
-You got info on how to get into MMA? SWEET Im all ears!!! Maybe we could start with YOU and me... **** Chuck or whoever. Lets you and me set a time and place and scrap. **** talkin shit here to me stranger. Contact me personally thru my profile HERE and lets do this. YOU put up or shut up. Name me a friggin time and place, thats all I ask.
Come on... Im totally serious bub.
- Ive never said that i hit harder than anyone... much less YOU. Should I educate your primitive mind? ok... maybe you can hit 10 times harder... so what? you can strike with the strength of a baseball bat... what good is that if I am a lil mosquito who only lands once, bites you, and infects you?
how hard you do or dont hit matters not...
- Throughout your diatribe you seem to act quite knowledgeable about my training... what, you psychic? I stopped breakin boards and bricks a long time ago... now its ribs and jaws. Care to find out? tell ME I talk shit... well ok then fine. Im willin to put up. Are YOU????
- Ill tell yo what...you kick me as hard as you can, and I will do the same to you with my self-proclaimed 700+lb/sq.in. kick. Practicing technique helps, yeah...but its much more realistic (and satisfying) when I see the paramedics failing to revive a guy than it is to see a dent in a heavybag or tree. Trees dont hit back, but neither will I get another 4 year bit for hitting it either.
- I will be workin in LONDON Ontario most of this summer, so bub..Ill be easy to find. Isnt Hominick from there btw? And you talk like you SPEAK to Liddel... yeah well then fine. Id love to train with hi... but would rather fight. Before I said I would... bu strictly out of necessity. Now..its to put up and shut up... not shut up for myself..but shut up to the likes of YOU. Your perspective..is based on what you KNOW. I dont really KNOW what you know... but based on your lil blurb, it aint enough. You may know a million things, and I only one. But.. what if your million cant beat my one? A give you a small taste of some ideologies that i know (based again on your written prose) will fly over your head. You tell Liddel the next time yo talk to him (i.e. at his next fan autograph signing)... theres alot of dudes lookin to scrap him (hell... him, or whoever... hes not the highest o my list... he was just an example I was using in a previous convo, and an obvious target because of that belt he carries. hey... howd he do over there in Pride anyways? Was that his..instincts coming out over there?) and Im one of them.
- My "chi".. isnt hidden! Like really dude... what the f*ck are you babbling about? You wanna film something? How about bringin a camera... once youve given me a place and time.
-As for the UCC..or TKO... whatever. I dont care about thier politics... they are a means to an end. They are a rcredible MMA forum and venue, and located in Canada. They also have some good fighters. thats all I care about. As for the guys I spoke to.. cant remember their names offhand... all the 411 from the Expo is at home. They were too busy tryin to get me to buy a "Legalize It " tee lol. They were really nice guys (as were all that were there) and I made sure to email them yesterday and get the ball rollin so I can fight there.
-As for my NAME... dont worry about that for now. Im known.. as 922890B. Provincially...Im known as 177299302. You can get my name when you put up and gimmie a time and place so we can see just between YOU and ME who is what. F*ck EVERYTHING Ive said...Chuck included. You and me bub. No more talkin smack.
- As I already said...until Im in...Im gonna do some TMA stuff... I could say to hone some skills, to get some time in, or to prep for a real MMA event... but the truth is that i itch to fight, even if I gotta follow stringent rules. that will be my biggest problem. My "instincts", if youve read all of this like you act to have... wouldnt be to turtle. I think Ive made clear what Id do, and Ive got my proof. Hence the numbers listed above.
Come and smash me and see what my instincts are!
-ok..enough.
One Last thing : you said:
I say walk the walk dont talk the talk . Sure... any ideas on how I can do that? Despite all your bullshit...I can see why you said what you said. Totally, and normally Id be in agrerement. Problem is..I know me, and you do not. Yet. So I throw your words back at YOU... come walk the walk and f*ck the talk. Im game and willing... are YOU???
til youre serious...
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Posted: 5/16/2006 1:25:03 PM | I know.. RIGHT NOW...your readin this...
so come on the challenge has been set!
Put up or shut up!
Put up or shut up!
Put up or shut up!
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Posted: 5/16/2006 1:34:29 PM | short version of what Saiyan just said.........never assume .......anything.......... ; especially when you don't know the backround of the person you are speaking to. I thought that would be one of the first things anyone in ANY sport would learn; especially one that involves pain. I know that when i go against anybody; no matter what belt level........I don't assume anything........even if they are a lower belt; they could be a higher belt in a different style...or like me; have a sensei that is an ex-cop; ex -body guard, and loves to fight on the ground.........so; never assume........it can get you in trouble. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 1:49:11 PM | lol
as I said I didnt read every page, but read the first one, sure sounds like some dim mak BS.
I see I got your feathers ruffled. Chuck was down at our club working with us on some stuff, it was his B-day and after that everyone went out to crabby joes and we celebrated with him. It was no autograph session.
you are correct, I dont know your training, I assumed which we all know about assumptions, but as I said with what you posted on the first page you sounded like 99% of other guys who say the same thing.
before you knock MMA fighters and their skills you should actually fight before you talk, not a street fight but fight a guy who trains to fight in mma. Whether thats in the gym or in the cage.
Yes Hominick is from London.
I will leave no get into an internet pissing match with you over this anymore, it will only escalate into a temper tantrum and make us both look stupid to everyone else.
You say you will be in London in the summer? Let me know when, We can set something up, whether its this or that, a match or training. I have no problem with that at all.
If you are serious about fighting in the TKO organization, I can also help with that. It will not be on PPV or anything as you have never fought, they hold something called PG (proving grounds) and it is basically the undercard thats non-televised. You will be matched with someone else who is green and has little training. The QAC is who makes these rules in order for them to sanction the event, so rookies cant be placed in with a "liddel" type and get hurt too badly, although it doesnt prevent all mismatches.
If you want a quality opponent in their main card...well, you would need to make up a fake record and win-loss etc...I have NO idea if you could pull it off or not, never heard of it being done or how well they check.
as I said, I maybe came across as an ass...well I bet I did, I have to admit I was laughing at that first page, but who knows, maybe you are the real deal, as said I dont know your training. But I guess when your in London this summer I will find out what you know and what you dont. I dont care if its a friendly "competetive" match, because I dont "hate" you I dont "know" you, just someone who doesnt share your opinion. But If you want to be a hothead and try and prove something else (dont know you so I dont know what your like) then we can do that as well, just need to define the rules, if any. Just know that if there are no rules one of us will be hurt real bad, no rules mean...no tapping only broken limbs, eye gouges etc. But I am sure your not dumb and could assume thats a possibility
anyways let me know when your coming down. If I have a bit of time I might have an even better proposition depending on how you want to do this if can set it up, I have to admit, I would rather get paid to do this than just get bragging rights | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 1:49:34 PM | As usual... well said and sound advice from chinua...
all the best on your upcoming rise to first dan!!
As for your last posting GT99...
I will address it further tomorrow.
What youve said..more than anything..intrigues me.
I picked my profile name for a very specific reason...and, knowing its origin...my response should be of no surprise!
oh yeah..btw... this is pretty much how me and chinua made friends, as "apparent" adversaries! So ... shit I have no time.. tomorrow man!
Til then..
best wishes to ya...
hope your training hard cuz I am!! | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 2:00:52 PM | yes, as I said, my mistake....I will appologize for that. I shouldnt assume shit
I will say sorry to saiyin for jumping on him before reading the ENTIRE thread. The first page he came across much differently than later and thats my fault for not reading all 11 pages.
however I will not back down from a challenge now that its set, whether friendly training or not, thats not my call on how he wants it done. I will try not to judge him before I know him, I may not agree with what he said, but its not that I hate the guy for not aggreeing with him, after all, he was was humble enough to goto the expo and who knows, if he is serious in wanting to do MMA guess we will see where he goes with that | |
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Posted: 5/16/2006 2:21:55 PM | sorry...I type slow. by the time I finish typing one post to respond, another is already up
sounds like we can be civil about it. which is good, you know what they say about internet fighting....its like the special oylmpics...even if ya win...well I wont finish it might offend someone out there lol
seriously though, when are ya coming to london, and how serious are you about fighting MMA. one thing I have learned is that you can learn "something" from anyone. You can never stop learning. If fighting pro MMA is your thing I can make sure you get in the ring or cage well prepared, again I wont assume what you know or dont know, but if attitudes get checked at the door and you want to train with world champions in the sport, I can get that done.
we have numerous world champions in a variety of sports, Multiple kickboxing and muay thai world champions, a damn good wrestler who never got to show his TRUE skills in the show "TUF 2" Rob who they said was ****ing about his shoulder...well...if you know what had to be done "after" the show to repair it, he was not ****ing about a "sore" shoulder, it was a legit injury that took numerous screws and reconstructive surgeries. Obviously we have 3 UFC fighters, ties to Bas Rutten, jeff curan from chicago to work on grappling.
too bad this wasnt about 3 years ago, branco was a guy we brought from brazil, he was mario sperry's top student (sperry is one of the best submission grapplers EVER for those that dont know) and branco was a 13 time brazillian JJ world champion..awesome skills. he was a submission wizard and even with his "english" skills a great teacher
anyways enough about that.
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Posted: 5/16/2006 3:31:26 PM | why do you guys have to live so far away........wish i could watch........ | |
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