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Posted: 11/9/2005 4:55:48 PM | Lenox was all about strategy and covering his chin. Iron Mike was the man because not only was he aggressive, he can take a punch. In my opinion, skill wins the fight but an IRON chin with skill wins it all. You can train the body but you can't train a glass jaw.  | |
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Posted: 11/10/2005 5:36:32 AM | true jack...true... I guess you need strategy when you cant take a hit. We all know lewis' chin was suspect and that he didnt like getting hit. Still, the essence of pugilism is the JAB, and,despite others views, I staunchly insist that Lewis had a weak jab. It did imoprove somewhat in his last few fights, but by mid-fight hed revert bak to the ole lennox. Just watch his fights again and see for yourself. I remember when Holyfield handed tyson his ass, but Mike wouldnt go down... dude was out on his feet... reminded me of this old kung fu movie, where the guy dies on his feet. A warrior. Ans sometimes, we dont wanna see a tactical chess match, we want war. and blood. and lots of it. A battle where both take damage and dont care. That was the thrill of watchin Tyson... it was like watching the gladiators of old. Who will eat your heart, and children..praise allah!
lol Im totally NOT muslim but if youll remember, tyson said that to lewis once, the nut.
youre so right though jack... some things cant be trained. Like having a tough jaw. Look at jones jr.... a guy who can give a punch, but cant take one. | |
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Posted: 11/12/2005 12:30:50 AM | | G'day mates i am just seeing if you fellas up there in america have heard of a bloke! who is an australian kickboxing legend stan "the man" longinidis no worries. | |
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Posted: 11/13/2005 8:43:25 PM | MMA is the elite sport as far as I'm concerned. 1 on 1 and the better fighter wins (obviously there are some flukes along the way). However the UFC has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes in the past few years. They have done so much for the sport but now the UFC seems like they are trying to put themselves out of business. The Ultimate Fighter reality show is a perfect example of this.
TUF is recruiting a lot of new fans, but at the expense of those of us who have been loyal through all the underground years where the sport was banned and blacklisted. It kind of makes me sick to see some of the things that have been done recently. All the quality fighters that have been replaced with TUF talent (Trigg and Linland headline that list). Diego Sanchez is the only guy who will do well out of the reality show because he was the real deal long before TUF when he was with KOTC. The rest are being hand fed fighters they will most certainly beat. I don't get it. The current UFC product has me looking more towards Pride.
I've been watching this sport since Royce Gracie beat Ken Shamrock with a side choke. I love MMA and train myself because I love the competition. However the current product that North Americans are being given is sub-par. Hopefully this will change and the UFC won't forget the people who are responsible for its survival in not-so-good times. | |
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Posted: 11/14/2005 7:42:48 AM | | Theres a good chance that UFC will outlast many other MMA forums...because of its commercialism. The average joe watchin might not be as knowledgable as we are here, and sees the UFC as an improvement over WWE and TNA wrestling... remember theres a ton of people who actually find that shit entertaining. So the UFC... caters more than ever to the mainstream, and the more it does, and becomes commercialied, the less attractive it seems to those of us who know a bit about fighting. Still...Id like to take the five top well known MMA guys from whatever organization you want and put them up against five guys I know who youll never see on tv competing, and ...collectively, I give you 5 minutes before your fedors, arlovskis, gracies, shamrocks, ortiz', liddells and whoever else is out there right now is toasted., again asserting MY point, and that is that MMA is fun as hell to watch, but...theres alot of dudes out there that would wipe those MMA guys out, with few possible exceptions. And that the MMA we see is NOT the elite of whats out there... | |
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Posted: 11/20/2005 3:11:50 PM | | I'm not so sure about that. Pride is huge in Japan. The Japanese Prime Minister wanted to present the belt to the winner of Fedor-Crocop, but that didn't happen for security reasons. I don't see an American President or Canadian Prime Minister doing that here. We still have some people trying to ban the sport here. | |
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Posted: 11/20/2005 10:48:02 PM | I think that a lot of people putting down MMA fighters are martial artists who don't appreciate wrestling as being as technical as their martial art. Personally, I have the utmost respect for wrestling. Positional dominance and the ability to determine if the fight stays standing or goes to the ground is a key fighting skill, whether you're looking at fighting from an athletic or self-defense standpoint. Some traditional martial artists view wrestling as being all brawn and no technique, which is way off base. It's much harder than it looks.
Furthermore, I think it's dumb to collectively label MMA fighters as lower-end or even mid-range martial artists. Many of the UFC guys have extensive martial arts resumes. Karo Parisyan for example is a world class martial artist in judo. And it's not like judo is some dinky little art; it takes mad skill to ascend to the top of a sport that large.
I don't see the UFC as being about who can kill the best. It's an athletic contest, and I do see the UFC fighters as elite athletes, not elite ninjas or elite killers or whatever. I mean, it's not like it would be practical to resurrect Roman gladiator-style fighting. You'd have to be pretty sick to want to see someone really die on TV for your sporting pleasure. | |
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Posted: 11/21/2005 10:15:24 AM | Firstly... no disrespects to MMA or those who participate in forums like the UFC and pride. (Again, I find myself...repeatin what I said before...) Most in fact come with TMA resumes, and as was said, judo is one of the many true forms practiced that incorporates wrestling, and is practiced by many MMA prectitioners/participants. To me... fighting up or down are both likely scenarios in any contest. Looks like someone did her homework as well by reading thru the entire thread; a nice change. However, just because someone studies martial arts and has some form as a part of their resume... doesnt make make them the top echelon of whats out there. I dont see any 7th dans of anything in the UFC. I dont see alot of things in MMA..and rightfully, I dont want to. Im not interested in watchin a real death match. I do..hoewever, see alot of flaws in MMA fighters that you wouldnt see in ...certain other places. Im sorry, but when I have someone in the mounted position, its over, and damn quickly too. Maybe thats because I fight on the street and gotta split before I in turn get smashed or arrested. I wonder how different a lot of MMA fights would be.. with different motivation. Wed see no more boring three round fights, and id be a lot more brutal. We invariably want our cake bloody, and eat it too, but...dont want the whole bakery either. If youre a practitioner of martial arts, because you wanna be fit, ya wanna be able to defend yourself, you wanna be able to kick butt... great. Most guys I train with (a small small few) outgrew that thinkin about 20 years ago. When you get so far in your training, when it has encompassed your daily life for a few decades, you dont train to be in good shape, or even to defend yourself. You train..for that one day. Y'all have been a lil caught up in todays world and the 'sport' of martial arts, which is great, and MMA is fun to watch thats for sure. I study from the school of thought born in medieval times. So competing for me... is a total waste of my time, cuz when I fight now, its on the street, and outta necessity, and my intentions may not be to kill you.... but to make sure you wish you were dead. It takes...skill, amongst other things...to execute (using deadly tools and knowledge) quickly decisively without fear or hesitation, but still be controlled enough to not kill someone. I hang with biker dudes who blow people up and eat glasses, cups and plates for fun... Ive seen some sick dudes and myself have done some sick shit that made me wonder what the hell I am afterwards. It makes watchin the UFC... kinda tame. For ME... but I see the entertainment value for the masses. We are all biased by our knowledge gleaned thru our experiences, and some of us have seen..alot. Maybe too much. Certainly more than others, and, as a result, simply know that, as fun as it is to watch, and granted you do have a few serious dudes in your UFC/Pride matches.... theres alot more out there... there are those I call martialists. Those trained to do what martial arts were originally intended and designed to do, and that wasnt to get paid, be on T.V. or be famous. Do you get it yet? I dont care if you agree... just that you see.
I think Couture will beat Liddel, although its a match up Im interested in seeing very much... but hell, with a date in February for the match...thats enough time to train to fight them BOTH! And if he hits either one I could see Iron Mike hurtin either, even if he had to bite them!! Liddel would probably ground n pound Tyson, and would eventually tire from hittin that hard head! lol
Standing up...either would be toast.
Id like to see Matt Huges rematch with that Carlos Newton kid who beat Millitech (btw Huges countered -and won against- a triangle choke-out doin what I woulda done, and did do in a parking lot scrap, 10 years ago). Newton trains in Ju-jitsu (at a school called Dragonball Ju-jitsu, no less), and not far from where I live...
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Posted: 11/21/2005 1:41:42 PM |
However, just because someone studies martial arts and has some form as a part of their resume... doesnt make make them the top echelon of whats out there.
I thought I read somewhere that Karo was 3rd in his weight class in the world in judo. And Matt Lindland was a silver medalist at the Olympics in wrestling. There's also lots of top ADCC guys including numerous BJJ black belts who are fighting in MMA. So a lot of guys are athletes who have already risen to the top of their respective arts; I would consider many of them top echelon. I mean, they don't give out Olympic silver medals for participation.
I dont see any 7th dans of anything in the UFC.
That's because it's just more fun to watch fighters under age 55. (No offense to the old guys; after all I think Sean Connery is still hot!) Besides which, in many arts the ranks above a certain degree of black belt are automatically accumulated every so many years, or are awarded more for service to the art than for skill. So it's not like a 7th dan of one art is necessarily going to be better technically than a 3rd dan of the same art. He could be....but not definitely.
Besides which, I think it can be presumptive to watch someone with another martial art as a base and claim that they are making mistakes just because they're doing something different from what you might do. In some cases, it might hold, but in many cases it depends on perspective of the viewer. Different martial arts have different answers to the same questions, and different people can make things work for them that don't work for other people. Sometimes you even find different answers to the same questions within the same martial art. I think part of the beauty of MMA is that in seeing multiple arts colliding we find that there are many "right" answers.
saiyan_1, you can consider yourself all the badass you want. I think it's sort of dumb to claim you can do something against UFC-caliber athletes without any credible experience in doing so. I know some seriously badass guys who wouldn't even make such claims, because they know that until they try it the result is uncertain. But go ahead and make such claims; whatever. But I'd still put money on Arlovski over you in a death match.  | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 9:56:21 AM | lol..ya had me in complete agreement, and blew it with the last statement!!
Theres a shitload of peeps who think, and even know they are tough. yawn. So what.
I have a close friend who won a bronze medal in greco-Roman wrestling... I have a good friend in the WWE. I have two friends curently training for the UFC (who are itchin for me to train them, and both come from high calibre wrestling backgrounds), and a third who had to quit cuz hes incarcerated for some crazy dumb shit. I have a biker bud who fought in the Pride league in Japan (he uses the fact that I outweigh him as his excuse for repeatedly tapping out). One of my homies is the World champ in the heavyweight division for full contact TKD. One former sensei... trains the Mossad. One friend would destroy the UFC..hes just nuts. And hes a golden gloves boxer AND a black belt in TKD. He just got out for blowing up H.A. bars in Montreal, and is so dangerous, hes now a H.A. A Nomad to boot. All will tell you what they think of me, and what to do if you scrap me. Run. You have NO IDEA what my personal resume is, so how can you determine anything about me? funny...my credentials? its all right here on POF if youre really smart and can find it. For example when I said that I see flaws watchin UFC fighters, you have no idea what motivated that comment. If you read well, youd know (at the same time I dont expect anyone to have a vested interested in doin their homework on ME, but if youre gonna talk smack, you should... come equipped). When I see these ..flaws... its goin thru a mind that has extensively studied many many martial arts. Like you said, belt degrees are as much political as anything else these days. And Ive learned as much on the street as I have in the dojo. I never said Im a badass, although thats probably true. I put in almost six years inside, 4 of those in Joyceville, so yeah ya know what? Ill admit it. And you have no idea what a difficult life Ive led. And what Ive done. But, who cares f8ck! Just dont be tellin me about credible experiences... Ive been shot, stabbed, bludgeoned ( I was once jumped by 14..yeah FOURTEEN cops when I got outta the pen and f8cked them all up... oh yeah, the two hits of acid I was on probably helped). Do you know what I mean by.. arcane training??? Do you know anything.. about hypnosis?
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I think it can be presumptive to watch someone with another martial art as a base and claim that they are making mistakes just because they're doing something different from what you might do. In some cases, it might hold, but in many cases it depends on perspective of the viewer. Different martial arts have different answers to the same questions, and different people can make things work for them that don't work for other people. Sometimes you even find different answers to the same questions within the same martial art.
oh how very true!! Youre absolutely correct! Problem is you dont know MY resume, and what prompts me to say what I say. I have written University papers, on the differences between various martial arts styles, like why Judo differs from say tae kwon do. Do you yourself even know??? So when I see an opportunity to end a UFC fight using judo, Ive also thought about other styles like TKD. Try walkin into a dojo and fightin usin a different style, like using Judo in a TKD class or vice versa. Or monkey-style kung-fu in a Muay thai ring?? Til you have.. dont tell me b/s about what I do and dont know, and stick to what you DO know.. which ISNT me. Instead, be like Paul_R was earlier in this thread... he didnt share alot of my views but he did.. look beyond his perspective to see mine. I see yours, and Im in agreement, for the most part. What you dont realize is that I may be an anomoly where your otherwise correct viewpoint doesnt apply.
and btw I met an 86 year old man whod smoke just about any UFC fighter! Who needs to be in top shape when you have captured the true essence and attained a higher level of martial arts, and understand the one key element that is also reflected in everyday life, for martial arts and life itself are one and the same. thats why you never underestimate anyone, as you have done with me. Come to my town and ask who I am, and see if my views (and my nine key striking points) arent known, valued, or feared. But.. youve never seen me in action to know. And me..I hate people seeing me go... mostly cuz they will see what one human can do to another.
And bet your money on whoever you want... your money means shit to me (youd be dumb enough to bet your cash when you only know the credentials of one participant? You remindme of the dude with the voice box in Ong-Bak!)... but if I was to go Arlovski in a death match.. sure, sign me up... but what ever for? YOUR entertainment? F8ck that... and YOU! (Im joking) If hes threatening me, my life or my loved ones? damn straight. And if its gonna be a real dirty deal (and since Arlovski is one who prepares for his battles) lets do it handcuffed and shackled. I dont know if hes trained that way... I know I have.
Maybe he'd rather go for tea!
So back to biz... whats everyones call on Couture/Liddell come feb. 4? Any predictions??? | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 12:17:02 PM | Ok, jumping into this thread a little late, but I am a massive fan of UFC and Pride.
I have seen every UFC, every pride since number 12 or so, and quite a few KOTC and UCC/TKO.
As for Fedor, nobody is going to beat him anytime soon, except perhaps Nogera. Nog is going into big time strength training, and if he really gets significantly stronger, then maybe he has a chance.
As for Lidell / Couture 3. I think Couture is going to take it. Lidell is a freak who is hard to take down, just stands up when you do take him down, and hits like a truck if he ever connects, but I think really think his game is just too limited. Like look at GSP, that guy can do anything. I think Couture is very intelligent and crafty and he will come up with a game plan to beat Chuck. He always screws up the UFC's best plans too.
So what about George St. Pierre? That is my favorite fighter by far right now. He is so exciting. I realy lke the UFC's 170 pound class right now, aside from Gomi, the pretty much have everyone that is good: Hughs, GSP, Benn, Trigg, Sherk, Parysian, and Sanchez. I'm thinking they just need one more top fighter and they could do an 8 man tournament spread over 3 shows. I'd like to see Sherk vs Trigg, and Penn vs GSP. 2006 is going to be great for the UFC.
What do people think about Henderson vs Bustamonte? I think Dan's going to take it, but it's going to be awesome! | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:12:24 PM | I like GSP a lot too. All the newer guys who look at MMA as a skill set unto itself, instead of trying to cram it into whatever they were doing before. That's why I hope I see Salaverry back sooner rather than later as well.
Couture and Liddell, I find very similar in a lot of ways. Both of their styles kind of depend on The UFC rule structure. When Chuck gets up after a takedown, he uses the cage to do it more often than not. The same cage that Randy likes to squeeze folks against to nullify the guard. Liddel didn't do very well in Pride his last time out, and I don't think Randy would win a MW tourney over there either. I am picking Couture, because I think the first fight was more indicative of their relative skill levels.
I'm pulling for Hendo to. Guy's been one of my favorite fighters ever since the Noguera match. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 1:34:49 PM | I think you are right about Chuck relying on the cage.
People always say the ring favors the striker and the cage favors the grappler, but I don't necessarily buy that. Chuck is screwed without the cage. I was watching a Pride not to long ago and watched some poor striker get taken down right away and he spent the whole first round on his back, because with no cage there was just no way he was getting up.
Salaverry is great too, he just choked big time on the TV broadcast. I don't think you can take that one fight and say he's going to be boring for now on though. I don't think it has been a good move keeping him out this long.
Speaking of MIA 185 pounders though, wouldn't you like to see Matt Lindland fight Franklin. Yes sure, he's the epitome of boring lay and pray, but really, who else is going to challenge Franklin? He fights the Crow next, and sure that will be really exciting, but I don't think the Crow has more then a 15% chance of winning. He could win by cutting with his elbow at any point of the fight, but that's about it. Matt could take Franklin down and hold him there for the first time in his carreer. Of course, at that point he'd have to resort finishing him with love taps, but still, he has the best chance.
Hendo and Nog was great. It was really an intricate dance on the ground, position to position to position. Hendo could be a champ at 183 for a long time. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 2:27:26 PM |
youd be dumb enough to bet your cash when you only know the credentials of one participant?
I think Arlovski is a fairly high percentage bet against a keyboard warrior who talks tough but has failed to list any credentials that make him credible. (Writing papers about TKD and fighting cops when you're on acid isn't exactly what I'd call credible credentials.)  By all means keep ranting though, no doubt someone will be impressed if that's what you're seeking. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 2:38:22 PM | I think a lot of Couture's strength comes from a very skillful pre-fight opponent analysis. He comes out and appears to have a definite plan for how he's going to win. That was very evident against Van Ardsdale; his knees to the shoulder early on made it difficult for Van Ardsdale to use his clinching skills, and we saw Couture go for the same less-common sub repeatedly because he was apparently that confident that Van Ardsdale was vulnerable to it.
I think a lot of the younger guys just train everything and plan to do whatever hits their fancy at the moment, or plan to react to the other guy instead of forcing their gameplan.
I find Lindland to be one of the more interesting fighters, personally. I prefer to watch the more tactical fighters. But I understand why most others don't. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 3:42:09 PM |
I think a lot of Couture's strength comes from a very skillful pre-fight opponent analysis.
I totally agree with this. I think he's going to come out with a new game plan that is really going to mess Chuck up. I think it's going to revolve around using proper footwork to avoid power shots and get into a clinch. | |
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Posted: 11/22/2005 8:15:15 PM |
Speaking of MIA 185 pounders though, wouldn't you like to see Matt Lindland fight Franklin. Yes sure, he's the epitome of boring lay and pray, but really, who else is going to challenge Franklin? He fights the Crow next, and sure that will be really exciting, but I don't think the Crow has more then a 15% chance of winning. He could win by cutting with his elbow at any point of the fight, but that's about it. Matt could take Franklin down and hold him there for the first time in his carreer. Of course, at that point he'd have to resort finishing him with love taps, but still, he has the best chance.
I'd argue lay and pray as applied to Lindland. I find his fights anything but boring. I think there's a difference between being methodical and just hanging on, hoping to win based on position alone. I've seen Lindland press and finish guys pretty often, he just does it in a different way than most, relying on tiring them out and creating an opening. Of course, his wacky Interweb diatribes add a lot of spice to things that other fighters might lack. Some of his comments on Joe Riggs were friggin' priceless.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Lindland got screwed over by Dana White el al. He should have had his title shot long ago.
Hendo and Nog was great. It was really an intricate dance on the ground, position to position to position. Hendo could be a champ at 183 for a long time.
Yup. Hendo showed some great submission defence, and more importantly, a lot of heart. I hope he gets back to that kind of form after what seemed like a lacklustre outing in the MW Grand Prix this year. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 12:25:19 PM |
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Lindland got screwed over by Dana White el al. He should have had his title shot long ago.
Oh ya, I totally agree with that. I think it's sort of twisted to put Quarry in there when Lindland is around.
What did he do wrong? He wore some website logo in the ring after a fight or something? That's no reason to axe your only legitimate contender for the belt. Dana must really hate the website in question. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 4:26:57 PM | | It was a gambling site of some kind. I think it's more like White was looking for a reason to ditch Lindland because he didn't consider him 'dynamic' enough or something. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 4:34:55 PM | That is probably true.
He is the owner of the only self inflicted KO in UFC history though, that was cool :) | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 5:03:29 PM | | Yet he brought Tito back tho'.. And he doesn't like Tito. I guess Its true what they say.. Money talks and BS walks. | |
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Posted: 11/23/2005 7:44:17 PM | Well Tito is a much bigger draw then Lindland. He knows how to put on a show. Lindland is not much of a showman.
I'm sure Dana is not a big fan of BJ Penn either, since they had a law suit going this whole time up till a couple of weeks ago.
Dana almost signed Royce to fight again this year. I think he was going to fight Hughs, but it didn't work out because of Royce's other committments.
I wonder who else he might sign? I was hoping he was going to sign Herring, but now that Mir is back that is less likely, as they are from the same camp these days.
Cabbage would be good to bring back for the heavy weight division as well. They just settled some law suit with him too the same time they settled the BJ Penn suit. I'm not sure what it was about. | |
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Posted: 11/24/2005 10:58:27 AM | That is probably true.
He is the owner of the only self inflicted KO in UFC history though, that was cool :)
So you saw the "knock yourself out" match as well? That was.. pretty funny actually, and maybe why he got screwed over in the end. And there was the almost double knock out between Carlos Newton and Matt H. That was a cool fight.
Also, stickin to the UFC topic.. what weight division do you guys see as the most competitive and exciting to watch? Im liking the 185 class myself...
I also wanted to address:
Something I hear a fair bit about... alot of fights. The ones deemed..."boring"
I find his fights anything but boring. I think there's a difference between being methodical and just hanging on, hoping to win based on position alone. I've seen Lindland press and finish guys pretty often, he just does it in a different way than most, relying on tiring them out and creating an opening I agree with this. To the untrained eye (or, you know, on a friday night after a long week and we just wanna turn on the boob-tube and see a good bloody fight) it may seem boring, like watching two defensive teams play football. Tiring out an opponent, outlasting an opponent, and waiting for an opponent to make a mistake is very sound thinking, esp in the UFC where you have 3 rounds to get shit done. Maybe... some like to flirt with disaster and play around a bit before finishing of their opponent, although I doubt it! (I just remember someone coming into a certain dojo and watch the instructor take 12 minutes to submit someone, and make snide remarks, only to get on the mat and be submitted in 30 seconds.) Sometimes a fighter... can afford to be a tactician and win through perseverance and being opportunistic.
One point I wanna make: UFC and most MMA guys Ive seen.. are in great physical shape. However, as was said before here about Arlovski, and, more recently, Couture... the brain is the ultimate weapon, and preparation for ones opponent is a huge factor worth considering. It was said by the Greatest martial artist of all time :"The carpenter uses a master plan of the building, and the Way of strategy is similar in that there is a plan of campaign." Many of the men he beheaded were in battles where neither opponent moved a single inch, and, the second the was a waver in concentration and focus, the battle ended quickly and brutally. The first 4:55 seconds of those 5 minute duels musta been boring as hell to watch, but the finality was quicker than a blink. Due to.. strategy, and perserverance.
Prettytough... (and btw whats with THAT name, whats that underlyingly say about what and who YOU are? Im sure we pick names for a reason, hopefully as a reflection of our selves: some of us.. after cartoons (like me), or... Greek gods of wine (you coulda used bacchus as well, you-now-who! cool name tho lol), or a name like sensei (pretty obvious one) or even have a name because you are a prophet who can see laterally), to pick a few. Maybe you feel you have something to prove and like to pick scraps? Wheres YOUR credentials to back up that name? prettytoughshittalker? lol Im just tryin to rile you a lil... is it working? lmao!)
I dunno, but I do know you say A LOT of things... that Im actually in total agreement with.
Oh yeah, about writing papers on TMA and whatnot, I wholeheartedly invite all of you to do extensive history research on martial arts... its absolutely fascinating! As the sword-saint once said "You must do sufficient research". For example, there were these guys who knew about the void, anand used to eat hash as a way to "cheat" and get their minds on a level that can reach the void, and carry out political hit jobs. I did so too, tried to cheat and explore.. the dark side and alter my perception, and probably shouldnta, but I had a crazy sensei at the time, and he introduced me to the dark side of martial arts, and arcane philosophies. Acid was another way to cheat and attain ..the void. Totally wrong to do, but hey, Bruce had a shitload of hash found in his intestines too, so he probably knew about altering the mind to enter the void as well. He also had a distste for the usual way we introduce hashish to ones body (combustion and subsequent inhalation thru the lungs), so he ate it like the hashassins of old. You have to be exposed to all things good and evil to find your true path. Shit I sound like Yoda! (try watchin Star Wars.. on mesc. or..maybe not!) Not many...hell a rare rare few..have the gift of doin it without drugs (anyone see Batman Begins? this training is touched on in this movie as well), or doing it AT WILL.. I have since my dark days... found the Way. And how to control... entering the void. And I really dont care about providing credentials... my aches, scars, broken body parts,criminal record, stab wounds, bullet holes are testiments (mostly negative ones) I face and must live with regardless of ..an opinion.
I didnt get those, or the # 922890B by being... a keyboard warrior. Bu thanks for the compliment, misplaced as it was, for the Greatest Ronin also said "It is said the warrior's is the twofold Way of pen and sword, and he should have a taste for both Ways". And like I said before but you missed was that many of your questions regarding MY.. credibility, can be found here if youre smart enough to know where to look (I assume and hope it was lack of interest and not intelligence why you didnt "find" what I have repeatedly referred to). I dunno why youre so concerned.. I havent asked you to back up ANYTHING youve said, whether I agree or disagree. Probably cuz you came to ME first, and I dont give a shit about your own martial arts history (so I see a few pics..and a blue belt. yawn.) Actually no... Im just being spiteful. In reality, I give you kudos to you for studying whatever it is you take, and hope you find your own way to the Void. Ok enuff now already.
And someone end my confusion (plus Im too lazy to go look it up) but when is that Couture/Liddel match gonna be?? | |
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| UFC and Mix Martial Arts
Posted: 11/24/2005 6:43:11 PM | | UFC and the Ultimate Fighter series are great. These guys are athletes no doubt like any other athlete. I like Matt Hughes, St.Pierre, Franklin, Forrest Griffin, Sanchez, Couture and Liddell, Carl Perisian. The various fighting styles are crazy. | |
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