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Posted: 1/3/2006 10:22:35 AM | bella,
So the US uses the Marshall plan on a country that killed 1000s of Americans.
But we are going to steal all of the oil out of Iraq.
I know cause George Bush is president, Oh Yeah
The Marshall Plan granted $12500000000 to repair the economic damage of World
War II. The Marshall Plan shocked the Soviet leaders in Moscow. | |
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| Are you against the War?
Posted: 1/3/2006 12:21:58 PM |
So the US uses the Marshall plan on a country that killed 1000s of Americans.
But we are going to steal all of the oil out of Iraq.
I know cause George Bush is president, Oh Yeah
The Marshall Plan granted $12500000000 to repair the economic damage of World
War II. The Marshall Plan shocked the Soviet leaders in Moscow.
Different times, different presidents. I shudder to think how Bush would have responded to WWII. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:33:52 PM | | We should have never gotton involved in WWII. No one did anything to us. Up until the time we decided to block Japans gasoline shipment. Which I think was done to get us in the war. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:39:30 PM |
We should have never gotton involved in WWII. No one did anything to us. Up until the time we decided to block Japans gasoline shipment. Which I think was done to get us in the war.
Which would mean ignoring the fact that US allies were being attacked, and Hitler was making no secret of his plan to conquer the world. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:42:23 PM | | ^^^^...the US was not being attacked and there was no imminent danger of attack...come to think of it Canada was in the same boat and should have stayed out of WW II as well... | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:45:11 PM | " 'We should have never gotton involved in WWII. No one did anything to us. Up until the time we decided to block Japans gasoline shipment. Which I think was done to get us in the war.'
'Which would mean ignoring the fact that US allies were being attacked, and Hitler was making no secret of his plan to conquer the world.' "
But of course!! 
Quite amazing to see the amount of hypocrisy and double-standards amongst the Bush apologists, isn't it? | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:50:58 PM | 'Which would mean ignoring the fact that US allies were being attacked, and Hitler was making no secret of his plan to conquer the world.' "
It would have been illegal for us to get in that war. It was only legal after we were attacked. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:52:05 PM |
the US was not being attacked and there was no imminent danger of attack...come to think of it Canada was in the same boat and should have stayed out of WW II as well
Which part of
"Hitler was making no secret of his plan to conquer the world."
did you not understand? | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:53:11 PM |
It would have been illegal for us to get in that war.
Please explain why. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:57:27 PM | Hitler was making no secret of his plan to conquer the world.
can you give me the date when Hilter advised the world of his intentions?? | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 12:58:31 PM | 
Ummm, alliances unite countries...making them legally allowed to act in defense of each other.
Plus...there was no UN charter until...like, after WW2.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:05:57 PM | | ^^^there was no legal alliance that obliged Canada to declare war in WW II | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:33:28 PM |
can you give me the date when Hilter advised the world of his intentions??
November, 1937.
there was no legal alliance that obliged Canada to declare war in WW II
Perhaps you aren't aware of the relationship between Canada and Great Britain in those days. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:48:19 PM | MS
So Bush his evil plan is to rob all the oil from Iraq before the UN can get to it.
So as long as you approve the dictator to over throw it is okay. "Hitler" Evil
Saddam not Evil enough.
Hitler Just a mad man ranting acting crazy, not bothering the US none.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 1:57:40 PM |
Perhaps you aren't aware of the relationship between Canada and Great Britain in those days.
If Great Britain jumped off a cliff would Canada? | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 2:05:04 PM |
So as long as you approve the dictator to over throw it is okay. "Hitler" Evil
Saddam not Evil enough.
Hitler Just a mad man ranting acting crazy, not bothering the US none.
Hitler declared war against the US, first...NOT the other way around.
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Posted: 1/3/2006 2:07:40 PM |
So Bush his evil plan is to rob all the oil from Iraq before the UN can get to it.
I never stated the Iraq war was about oil.
So as long as you approve the dictator to over throw it is okay. "Hitler" Evil
Saddam not Evil enough.
Hitler Just a mad man ranting acting crazy, not bothering the US none.
Hitler was conquering one country after another. He was often quoted as saying the third reich would rule the world for one thousand years.
Saddam had not invaded any nation for more than a decade, nor did he have the military strength to do so. | |
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Posted: 1/3/2006 2:09:50 PM | ^^
I agree, should of done it earlier. However, Clinton was in the way | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 1:41:52 AM | Troops sound off: http://www.militarycity.com/polls/2005_main.php
Military Times Poll finds high morale, but less support for Bush, war effort
By Gordon Trowbridge
Times staff writer
Support for President Bush and for the war in Iraq has slipped significantly in the last year among members of the military’s professional core, according to the 2005 Military Times Poll.
Approval of the president’s Iraq policy fell 9 percentage points from 2004; a bare majority, 54 percent, now say they view his performance on Iraq as favorable. Support for his overall performance fell 11 points, to 60 percent, among active-duty readers
of the Military Times newspapers. Though support both for President Bush and for the war in Iraq remains significantly higher than in the public as a whole, the drop is likely to add further fuel to the heated debate over Iraq policy. In 2003 and 2004, supporters of the war in Iraq pointed to high approval ratings in the Military Times Poll as a signal that military members were behind President Bush’s the president’s policy.
The poll also found diminished optimism that U.S. goals in Iraq can be accomplished, and a somewhat smaller drop in support for the decision to go to war in 2003.
Opinions on the president and Iraq weren’t the only shifts in the 2005 poll:
• Positive feelings about Congress, civilian and uniformed Pentagon leaders and the media all fell.
• Respondents also were less likely than in the past to believe other segments of the country viewed the military favorably. In 2004, 37 percent said civilians viewed the military very favorably; that fell to 24 percent this year. Last year, 77 percent said politicians saw the military very or somewhat favorably; 63 percent said so this year.
• There was somewhat more support for opening military service to openly homosexual Americans: 59 percent said open homosexuals should not be allowed to serve, down six points from last year.
• Opposition to the draft fell slightly, from 75 percent last year to 68 percent this year.
• Nearly two-thirds said the military is stretched too thin to be effective, though that figure is down substantially from two years ago.
• Job satisfaction and approval of pay, health benefits, training and equipment remain high — though in many cases, the support is less enthusiastic than in past years, based on responses.
• For the first time in the three-year history of the poll, more than half of respondents said they had deployed in support of the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.
But few of those shifts appear as significant as those on the president.
to be sure, support for the president and his policies remains stronger in the Military Times Poll than in surveys of the general public: The president’s approval rating is as much as 20 percentage points higher than in the civilian population. Part of that difference is partisan: While roughly a third of Americans describe themselves as Democrats, just 13 percent of Military Times Poll respondents do so.
In follow-up interviews, most poll respondents said they remain solidly behind their commander in chief and his policy in Iraq.
“I think we’re fortunate as a country to have someone who has the focus and the persistence that he does because it’s so easy to get sidetracked,” said Navy Cmdr. Jeff Bohler. “The ability of the president to persevere in the face of overwhelming criticism is really impressive. It takes someone with a spine and courage.”
Many attributed the fall in support, both among the public and the military, withto a misguided lack of patience.
“We live in a society where … people want answers right away,” said Air Force Capt. Randall Carlson, a physics instructor at the Air Force Academy, who said he approves of the president’s policies. “Unfortunately with Iraq, there are no easy answers.”
‘They don’t report good news’ While 73 percent of respondents believe it’s likely the United States will succeed in Iraq, that’s down 10 points from a year ago.
“We’re losing a lot of troops. The suicide bombers are not stopping,” said Air Force Staff Sgt. Melida G. Castano. “It doesn’t look promising at this point.”
But others blamed the loss in confidence on the media, which many said has failed to report positive news in Iraq. Four of every five respondents said they believe media reports are often inaccurate.
“They don’t report the good news, and if they do, it’s on the back page,” said Marine Chief Warrant Officer-3 Michael Edmonson.
Though the number of respondents who have deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan was up 17 percentage points from a year ago, to 61 percent, that does not seem to have significantly affected opinions on Iraq. There was no significant difference in opinions between those who have deployed and those who haven’t, and responses from the Army and Marine Corps — the services under the most strain in Iraq — were not much different from other services.
Kohn, the University of North Carolina researcher, said the shifting opinions on Iraq may simply reflect shifts in the rest of the country. But he said he believes military opinions are at least partially insulated from civilian trends.
“The military is very capable of drawing differing judgments from the general population,” he said. “Military people think about these things with considerable sophistication. That is also sometimes undermined by their instinct to be loyal to the administration — any administration — to the government and to the mission.”
As in the previous two years, Military Times Poll respondents were reluctant to express opinions, even anonymously, about the commander in chief or his policies. About one in five refused to say whether they approved of the president’s performance on Iraq or overall.
“That’s my boss,” Army Lt. Col. Earnestine Beatty said in a follow-up interview. “I can’t comment.” Kohn said he worried that asking such questions of military members and publishing the results could tarnish the military’s image as a nonpartisan institution.
The poll “tends to communicate to the American people that the military is just like any other interest group,” Kohn said. “We want the public image of the military to be decidedly apolitical."
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Posted: 1/4/2006 5:00:13 AM | The survey mirrors a similar shift in U.S. public opinion over the last year. The CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, for example, recorded an eight-point drop in public approval for Iraq policy, from 47 percent in November 2004 to 39 percent in December 2005.
This is what most us pro Iraq war posters were talking about. When liberals keep their anti war protest. It starts effecting the troops. They start questing their missions and the chain of command. Hopefully no one will get killed due to this liberal war stance. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 6:24:36 AM | I was for it in the begining, I was blindsided for revenge of 9/11, and missdirected by the Bush administration's lies and propoganda. Now now I'm for some sort of "fix" but "fixing" is not an easy task.
The country of Iraq, and the surrounding countries can become our worst enemy once we pull out. There has to be stability re-established like in the past. American troops will probably always be there now, like Germany, and Vietnam, etc. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2006 1:21:27 PM |
'We should have never gotton involved in WWII. No one did anything to us. Up until the time we decided to block Japans gasoline shipment. Which I think was done to get us in the war.'
Did you reall just write that? Do you have any clue what the 2nd WW was about? What about all the Sons and Daughters of David (Jews), that lived in America at the time, or do you forget the 35million people that Nazi's killed is that not enough to go fight? (forgive me but my family is Jewish) I'm not trying to be rude but OMG you need to read a little about that war. Read "If Hitler had won the War" that's a good one, you can find out what that Ba$$tard would have done with out being stoped by the Canadians, Brits and Americans (God bless all the Vets including 6 of my family!). Last year was the year of the Vet, did you not notice any of the TV shows or books that were out for this??????? Remember that the Japan and The German's were the Axis? WOW??!?!?!?!?! sorry but it has to be said again WOW!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
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Posted: 1/4/2006 1:28:04 PM | " 'We should have never gotton involved in WWII. No one did anything to us. Up until the time we decided to block Japans gasoline shipment. Which I think was done to get us in the war.'
Did you reall just write that?"
'fraid so. But then, what would you expect from someone who also posts such cerebral comments as "If Great Britain jumped off a cliff, would you?"
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Posted: 1/4/2006 3:17:40 PM | FDR promised the American people that we would not get involved in WWII.
"If Great Britain jumped off a cliff, would you?"
Correction
If Great Britain jumped off a cliff would Canada? Canada's claim they declared war on Germany was because of something to do with their loyality to Great Britain.
Such loyalty. You not helping in Iraq.
'fraid so. But then, what would you expect from someone who also posts such cerebral comments
At least their comming from my head and not my........
BTW grog why is it you alway want to insult people. Didn't I just read on another thread how for your new years resolution you were going to change your ways?
Is it possible for you to debate rather than belittle?
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