| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 3:28:56 PM | I learn by example and I even go by the common-sense majority knowing animals do not think like humans do.
http://www.slate.com/id/2127419/
Now you might be wondering why animals and humans think differently... I am sure evolution would be the answer to some, any other reason would be considered foolish which is most unfortunate. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 3:36:19 PM | I learn by example and I even go by the commen-sence majority knowing animals do not think like humans do.
I presume that if a "GOD" truly does exist as you claim, then you should fear it! As you of all people will probably feel its wrath due to your lack of respect for all "living creatures" being treated as equals.  | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 3:44:48 PM | It is good to maintain a balanced viewpoint on animals. Jesus Christ said that to enjoy "everlasting life," we must exercise faith and take in knowledge of God—things that animals are incapable of doing. (John 3:36; 17:3)
No where in the Bible does it say animals are our equals, if that was true the majority of mankind would not be eating them for food. Nut factories would be in much higher demand. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 3:57:46 PM | | I'd say my doggie is just as important... However, if it came to saving my children's lives or my dog's, of course I'd have to say my children's... | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 4:10:09 PM | My Parrot has the potential of outliving me...
She says "goodbye" when I leave for work. And says "Hello" when I get home. With all the other expressions inbetween including "I love you". So is she as important?? "Hell Yes!"
A cognitive thinking animal that can communicate in English and outlive me. What more could you ask of a pet?? Actually she is stuck with the emotional and rationalizing capabilities of a 3-4 year old child.. Her entire life. I would like that to expand... | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 8:01:40 PM | I have to agree with Bart.
A funny visual here
Say you were a alliens that came to this planet and saw people walking behind there animals as they lead us while we hold on as we are directed ,and picking up their poop after they go ,they would thing the dogs were the owners and we were the subserviant ones.lol | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 8:23:32 PM | Quote
My Parrot has the potential of outliving me...
She says "goodbye" when I leave for work. And says "Hello" when I get home. With all the other expressions inbetween including "I love you". So is she as important?? "Hell Yes!"
A cognitive thinking animal that can communicate in English and outlive me. What more could you ask of a pet?? Actually she is stuck with the emotional and rationalizing capabilities of a 3-4 year old child.. Her entire life. I would like that to expand...
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Capabilities of a 3-4 year old child,from a human perspective .
We compare based on our brain and its capability.
Remember your bird will have capabilities beyond what you will have if you lived to 100.
Not meant as a cut down but birds and other animals have developed parts of their brain beyond humans that can sense dangers including large storms ,earthquakes,can read animal and human body language and telepathically recieve and communicate,can see people in another dimension [ghost,spirits], ability to sustain themselves without others .
Meaning if we got hit by a natural disaster and we had to fend for ourselves without electricity,grocery stores etc ,if the animals were free in a natural enviroment would have a better chance of sustaining themselves compared to most humans .
No they cant split the atom,but that is part of our intelligence that is leading to our own demise.
How smart is that. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 8:41:56 PM | You should take a look at the profile and read the Sundance links... As for the multi dimensional capabilities.. Humans are capable if they are willing to sacrifice a part of themselves to learn from teachers you might not have the understanding of how to access at this point.
Theres a whole lot more to this life than what you see.
C
I did state emotional and rationalizing capabilities... There are other capabilities far beyond most levels of understanding | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/19/2005 11:45:56 PM | | The most extraordinary relationships between humans and animals are those of blind people and their guide dogs. These people literally entrust their lives to their guide dogs. Among the most heart-breaking events I've ever witnessed was a person saying "goodbye" to her long-time companion after the dog needed to be retired and replaced. It was like losing a family member as indeed the dog was. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/20/2005 8:23:35 AM | Thanks heavenscherubangel
Sending some love your way.
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Among the most heart-breaking events I've ever witnessed was a person saying "goodbye" to her long-time companion after the dog needed to be retired and replaced.
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While at Amimal control one dog to pick up our dog that was spade,someone was dropping off a old Chiwawa with cataracts for destruction [put to sleep].
We ask if we could have it and the owners said yes.
We brought it home and it got along fine with all our other dogs and cats other than the fact that our dog named Artis [Huskey.rott mix] would like to tease the chiwawa and do things like placing her foot on her back while spinning ,and this would ofcourse piss off the Chiwawa.
One day we put the dog in the front large basket of a bicycle with a pillow underneath and went to see my girl friends mom.
She is mexican and chiwawas were very common in mexico .
So we ask her if she wanted the dog and she said no,so we convinced her to keep the dog for a few days and if it didnt go well then we would take her back.
After a few days her mom and the chiwawa[which we named Cheech]were inseperable and lived with her 2 more years until unfortuately one day when her mother was walking the dog without a leash to the park the dog was hit and killed by a car.
The death of the dog was unfortunate but at least it had another 2 and a half years of life. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/20/2005 8:37:04 AM | | I've loved and lost alot of pets in my life and I've missed those pets for longer periods of time than I ever missed an ex-girlfriend. Part of me hates to admit that, but no women ever got under my skin and made me feel they needed me as much as my dogs and cats. That was true devotion which is something you don't get that easily with humans. Of course, that being said, I'll say that my human family members are more dear to me than any animal. So, Basically, it all comes down to who's there for you and who truly needs you to be there for them. It's not an either or situation. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 9:12:38 AM | | I LOOOOVEEEE animals..and I perfer them, and think of them as higher life forms than most humans... | |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 9:26:46 AM | I absolutely love all my animals..past and present...I was totally heartbroken when I had to leave my little mini poodle this summer (even though my mom took care of her for me) I couldnt wait to see her lil' face when I got home..Animals are fantassssstic!!! I honestly think there is something wrong with a person if they say, "i hate animals..." I really don't understand how you could??
Here's to all our furry friends (or not so furry depending) we love ya!!! | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/20/2005 9:40:59 PM | QUOTE:
No where in the Bible does it say animals are our equals, if that was true the majority of mankind would not be eating them for food. Nut factories would be in much higher demand.
Hmmm... I hate even getting into this BUT... MEN wrote the bible!!! I'm not sure what your God is like but there is no way my god would be as hateful about "certain" people and lifestyles as YOUR God!!! God obviously created our animal friends to comfort us... and show some humans compansion and love when other humans could not. I do not think quoting the bible has a place on this thread. Why don't you start a new one!
I do not have children (human types) I only have my pets, therefore they are my family. And I have a LARGE family at my farm. They love me.... unconditionally... Now if it came to saving my Daddy.. or my Yorkie... well.. it would be a toss up.. LOL.. not really.. of course I'd save my Dad. However, there are some humans on this earth that shouldn be euthanized before some sweet old pet! This thread has gone on for some time now. It's getting to a point now of people being a wee bit bitter and getting ugly so I for one am tiring of it. I know how much pets mean to some people. There are just some people who don't see them the same way as others do. That is not to say there is something wrong with people who are not complete animals nuts like most of us. They are better off financially I'm sure!!
OK.. that is all I have to say. Yes animals are animals.. and humans are humans.. but GOD created us all!!! | |
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Posted: 12/20/2005 9:45:58 PM | | I often wonder about a thread like this that goes on forever , I guess pets are more important than people ;o) now where are those doggie snacks ?? | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:55:17 AM |
Why is it we love animals so much?
I think a lot of that is because pets tend to provide what we perceive as unconditional love. My dog has never once given me a dirty look or otherwise acted like he was not happy to see me when I walk through the door at the end of the day. Does the dog really love you? I don't know... I can't get in to a dog's head. Maybe he's ecstatic only because he's thinking, "Thank God you're home! I gotta take a piss and make a pile the size of your head! Oh yeah, and by the way, I'm starving so you think you can get me some dog chow?" I love my dog because he's good unjudgemental company and I can tell him anything I want.
Do some people care more about their pets than their spouse or children?
The answer to this question is most definitely "yes"! My ex-wife definitely thought more of her dogs & cat than she did of me. She had what I called an obsession with animals (no, not in that way!). This ALWAYS caused problems if we wanted to take a vacation or if we needed to be away from the house more than a few hours. However, my biggest issue was the fact that she was more concerned with her "babies" getting to share our queen size bed. It really interfered with our sex life as well as me getting a good night's sleep. There's nothing like a huskie stomping on your gonads in the middle of the night while it's jumping back up on to the bed! Talk about waking from a dead sleep with adrenaline going full blast! Anyway, my ex ALWAYS put those dogs ahead of our relationship and that really bothered me. I don't miss those damn dogs one bit and I'm an animal lover! At least my dog is a small breed and doesn't cause problems like that! However, my dog will definitely be banned from the bed if and when I'm in another relationship. I think it's just rude to expect your S.O. to deal with a pet in the bed.
Can you love a pet too much?
Yes, if it is interfering with your social interactions with other human beings, then I say you most likely have some deep-rooted issues that you are not dealing with. You are essentially substituting an animal for human interaction. Perhaps it's because an animal isn't going to disagree with you or hurt you. Those are just two of countless possibilities. For example, my step-sister is so damaged emotionally and psychologically from picking the winners she's had in her past, that she now possesses absolutely zero social skills when it comes to the opposite gender. She has substituted dogs for human interaction where interpersonal relationships with the opposite sex are concerned. She has some twisted logic in her own mind that she has to have 3 dogs. Three is the magic number for whatever reason. She considers this her "family" in the context of a social family unit. She selected a house based soley on the amenities it had that would be beneficial to her dogs. Her house is always a mess and stinks to high heaven of smelly dogs (they are not a small breed but they are all indoor dogs). She lets all three dogs sleep in her bed with her. The dogs are untrained and unruly and will jump all over you when you enter her house. She doesn't do anything to discourage this behavior either. Call me crazy, but I find my step-sister's behavior and attitude very bizarre to say the least. The whole family thinks her hamster died and the wheel quit spinning if ya know what I mean!?! On the contrary, my step-sister sees nothing odd at all about this type of arrangement. I personally think she has a personality disorder and needs intensive pyschological therapy. Basically, she has taken passive-aggressive behavior to the extreme in her attempts to keep men away, yet she constantly complains about not having a man. Hmmm.... I wonder why? Obviously she doens't "get it". Anyway, this is an extreme example of what happens when you love your pets too much! Scary huh? | |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 6:19:14 AM | | pets love ya back unconditionally...no strings attached...and they are loyal friends...i dont think you can love them too much...they are part of your family and should be treated as such | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:07:21 AM | @kenn159 That is just part of the problem with pets today in large city areas. It seems that throughout history, pets were rarely kept in the home, and this continues to be the case in most parts of the world. In recent times, though, as people have moved to cities and become affluent, house pets have become common. This has created some problems in developed countries.
Of the world's estimated 500 million pets, a staggering 40 percent or so are found in the United States. There are some 59 million pet dogs and 75 million pet cats there. Yet, London and Paris each have more pets per household than does New York City!
In Paris a few years ago, some 70 motor scooters called caninettes were leased to vacuum dog waste from sidewalks. It was estimated that the some 250,000 dogs in Paris were producing 25 tons of waste daily, less than half of which was picked up by the caninettes. Hundreds of people a year were reportedly being injured and hospitalized after slipping on dog waste.
Just another example why pets should not be as important as us humans.  | |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 8:25:35 AM | Just another example why pets should not be as important as us humans
Pets shouldn't be as important than humans because why? Because of HUMANITY'S NEGLECT for these kind and loving creatures? *scratches head* | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:41:48 AM | | To generalize that all people are neglecting animals would be very foolish. Just look at what people put up with in the cities... I just pointed that out. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:44:46 AM | This is a very long thread, so if this has been stated, I apologize.
I have come to a belief which holds that, although humans seem to be a very different type of animal here on earth, all life carries an equal right. There is no one creature more important than another. It is the human mind that concludes that we are somehow more important, and human ego that states that this must be true. In reality, humans are highly destructive and filthy things. We pose a terrible threat, and will likely be diminished, as the ecosystem as a whole, will find ways to continue its endless cycle...with or without us.
As for pets, I consider that the kinship with my cat is as important as any responsibility of my life...and my relationship with him is as important as the relationships I have with many people....moreso in some cases. I would go through any length to insure his safety and happiness.
In direct response to the original post, yes...pets are as important as people. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2005 8:55:14 AM | | Yes pets are as important as people... I have had my Chi-Chi a rat terrier / chihuahua mix since she was 4 weeks old. She is now 11 years old and will starve herself if I leave her. My cat, Tabitha is also 11 years old and I have had her for 10 years. These are not pets....... They are my children. They understand everything I say to them and even let me know if I make them mad... They are much better than most people I know and I would never get rid of them for anybody......... | |
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