| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 3:45:25 PM | They understand everything I say to them and even let me know if I make them mad.
Dogs can only follow a few basic commands which mainly involve food or going outside, dolphins and parrots are the smartest but I doubt they can understand everything since it takes much practice just for those simple commands. Dogs do get pretty smart but only with much patience and constant help with a great trainer. So unless you can give use some examples as to what they understand I still say they can't understand things like physics, building a house, flying an airplane, or driving a car. I have yet to see a dog do those things a human can do. Humans can be self taught, animals need persistent work and praise to be of good use such as drug sniffing and helping the blind or elderly.
And about being mad, any animal would be restless if they are kept in a cage or house for a long period of time. That is why many pets tear up the house when the owner is gone, they need to use up that energy, not about being mad. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 4:21:09 PM |
So unless you can give use some examples as to what they understand I still say they can't understand things like physics, building a house, flying an airplane, or driving a car. I have yet to see a dog do those things a human can do.
What the hell does physics, building houses, or driving vehicles have to do with "importance" of life? 
The mentally-challenged, and infant humans can't do that stuff neither, but that does'nt make them any less "important" than adults with a higher I.Q.!
Just because my canine friend is way smarter than YOU (being daft and all), it does'nt make you any less important as a being. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 4:24:43 PM | physics, building houses, or driving vehicles
all these things are used to destroy the egosystem and you are using them to argue that they are not worthy because they don't do them
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 4:39:50 PM |
Dogs can only follow a few basic commands which mainly involve food or going outside
First since you do not know my dog you are assuming what she does and doesn't understand. I have spent 11 years talking to my dog like one of the kids and she does everything she is told to do even when spoken in a complete sentence. I never said she could drive a car or fly a plane....... but she does understand who individual people are by name and will go find that specific person when told to....... I have spent years and alot of work and love with her.
And about being mad, any animal would be restless if they are kept in a cage or house for a long period of time. That is why many pets tear up the house when the owner is gone, they need to use up that energy, not about being mad.
Second my dog is never left home alone and has never torn up anything.. Again you assumed.... when I do not let her do something she wants she turns her back on me and pouts just like a child, turning her head occasionally to make sure I am looking and know she is mad at me. That takes intelligence.............. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 4:43:19 PM | You go Bart.......... well said......... Some people are just not smart enough to train their pet I suppose........ | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:27:08 PM | Does your dog talk besides saying I love you cause that isn't a dog talking... please give us at least a tad bit more info next time. Besides a snake talking in the Garden of Eden... snakes do not communcate the way humans do nor do they understand the same way.
" I have spent 11 years talking to my dog like one of the kids and she does everything she is told to do even when spoken in a complete sentence."
Still... what do they do? Please fill in the gaps. Dogs will pick out key words even if you say a whole sentance... much like blah blah blah [go outside] blah blah blah? Or Blah Blah Blah [Bone] Blah? But they will not understand a structured sentance or multiple conversations.
"when I do not let her do something she wants she turns her back on me and pouts just like a child, turning her head occasionally to make sure I am looking and know she is mad at me."
Nope, still a bored pet you got there, not a mad one. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:39:41 PM | | If you saw a puppy and a baby in the water drowning and you could only get to one to get it out, because they are really far apart. You know people would save the baby. When its that simple. There is the truth. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:42:51 PM | oh yes sammy, there is a definite line there. human life is far more important to me than any animal, but i still love my animals. i would save the baby, but i would cry for the puppy. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:44:37 PM | Baby = can't swim. Get baby first.
Puppy = can swim at least a little. Instinct. Try and go back for the puppy. And if I gots ta will do mouth to snout to get the little bugger breathing again. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:58:35 PM | You know that one is a no brainer... I really do love my pet ... But...
I was raised in the stix and we had a bunch of farm animals as well as a long list of pet dogs.
A long story made short... If the dog killed one of the chickens or any other animals the dog was taken for a walk with the rifle... Only the rifle came back... No matter how much the dog meant to us as a pet.
Rabbits... I still will not eat rabbit as food... I on more than one occasion picked one of the (food) rabbits as a pet only to have it serve its purpose.
I still love my pet heaps and if anyone intentionally harmed her I would probably go to jail to pay for the conciquences. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 5:59:59 PM | The mentally-challenged, and infant humans can't do that stuff neither, but that does'nt make them any less "important" than adults with a higher I.Q.!
Not too strong of a statement. Humans as in my faith are capable of so much more then any animal will ever get; human beings still have the prospect of everlasting life since humans are made in Gods image. And if that isn't a good enough reason since you may not be a Christian... infants have a much stronger need to learn at that age and soak up much more information, the brain is much larger as well and can store up computer volumes of information. And the learning does not stop there, older people still crave knowledge. All that being imperfect. Animals get what they can right now without being in a sin like state humans are in. That is why animals can even outlive humans by hundreds of years such as the turtle, trees, and other life forms(creations). Mentally challenged people can be classified the same way some animals get illnesses. Animals mainly get sick if humans are around them too much and pass it on. Or if the animal was in some kind of garbage can with human germs in it. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 6:25:04 PM |
And about being mad, any animal would be restless if they are kept in a cage or house for a long period of time. That is why many pets tear up the house when the owner is gone, they need to use up that energy, not about being mad.
Some dogs destroy household items, when the "alpha" (human) is gone....yes. This is not a result of the dogs being mad OR pent-up energy....it's a condision known as "separation anxiety"...more common in some breeds more so than others. A dog doesn't have the ability to know that when their owners leave...they will be back....the dog thinks the owner will never come back...and this happens each and every time the owner leaves the house.
I have yet to see a dog do those things a human can do.
I have yet to see a human do some the things that dogs are capable of as well....like love uncondisionally or know ~ instantly, if a person's character is good or bad. Many things that dogs are capable of doing...humans will NEVER be capable of doing.
I think the majoritly rules in favor that...yes...an animal is as important as a person.  | |
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| Test: Which to you are more Important?
Posted: 12/21/2005 6:27:24 PM | You are walking with your most favorite and loved dog, the dog has brought much joy
and happiness to you and your family.
While walking the dog runs ahead, out of sight. You suddenly hear a desperate yelping.
You come across your precious dog drowning and being swept away in a river and there is
also a complete stranger downing and being swept away.
Time is short and you can only save one. Which would you save; the dog or the stranger?
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If you said dog, you flunked the test and humanity. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 6:27:31 PM | I wondered at times if my dog was smarter than my ex... He understood everything... I'm being totally serious here~~~ | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 6:44:44 PM | poorgie:
Bottom line...you're an argumentative pompous ass. I do believe you're only here to try to show off your 'superior' debating skills. I'd be surprised if ANYone decided to date you after showing this not-so-attractive side of yourself.  | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 7:50:11 PM |
Some dogs destroy household items, when the "alpha" (human) is gone....yes. This is not a result of the dogs being mad OR pent-up energy....it's a condision known as "separation anxiety"...more common in some breeds more so than others. A dog doesn't have the ability to know that when their owners leave...they will be back....the dog thinks the owner will never come back...and this happens each and every time the owner leaves the house.
Oftentimes people fail to buy another pet to keep each other company. I agree animals will get lonely since no animal wants to be left alone, babies die without some kind of love . But an am radio would help out somewhat or some other way to keep the dog occupied. Just a one hour walk with a pet can do wonders. So to have someone dog sit would not be a bad idea if the owner is gone too long. But I disagree with the dog thinking the owner will never come back, you have to give dogs some credit, they are loyal. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:07:34 PM | | Myrtle just needs more room to play. She gets plenty of food and attention, found her on the highway. She's 2 and about 15lbs, about the size of a small dog actually. Turn the radio on from time to time. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:16:39 PM | [oh yes sammy, there is a definite line there. human life is far more important to me than any animal, but i still love my animals. i would save the baby, but i would cry for the puppy.]
VERY well said.... you are sweet...
[Bottom line...you're an argumentative pompous ass. I do believe you're only here to try to show off your 'superior' debating skills.]
I totally agree!!! I was just reading Poorgie's arguments and WHY is he arguing with a bunch of animal lovers. There comes and time to AGREE TO DISAGREE and be gone!!! Yes you can argue about your logistics on animals but who cares??? If we chose to believe our beloved pets are smarter than our human friends then so be it.... If we want to jump in the water and save a friggin puppy or baby.. then that is OUR choice. It just ain't nothing but a chicken wing!! Move on and stop arguing ... it's no fun.
And THAT folks is my 2 cents worth!!! | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:28:42 PM | Alllllrighty then.
@Philamon
He's no substitute for humans but I now understand Walt Whitman's line "I think I could turn and live with animals.They do not sweat and whine about their condition ..."
Yes that is true since animals were not meant to live forever, animals know when their time is up.Humans need someone with them for comfort, cats go off into the woods to die.
One of my favorite quotes.
http://www.jahozafat.com/Movies/GI_Jane.shtml
Master Chief: I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A bird will fall frozen dead from a bow, without ever having felt sorry for itself." | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:30:30 PM | poorgie... What is it that makes you think you know my dogs emotions and behavior better than me? You have very obviously never had the love of a pet..... But then as stated earlier pets are an excellent judge of character so it is no wonder they don't care for you.. By the way sentence is not spelled sentance and communicate has an I in it......... Gee you sure look smart to me | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/21/2005 8:34:31 PM | Tee hee hee... it was just my 2 cents worth... are't you glad I didn't do $5.00??? LOL...
I was just talking to someone tonight and negative feelings, takes too much energy. THAT is why we have our pets, to help with our positive energy. Well, ok.. when they destroy what part of the house they can... my feelings are NOT happy ones. I can just picture them like the "gremlins" HEY... MOMMY is gone... let's P A R T Y !!! when I picture that... well hell I just think of myself and smile. | |
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