| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/28/2005 8:35:10 PM | It's sort of like raising kids mesna~~~With my 2nd one I was so confident ((yeah, I know what I'm doing now)). Hah~~~ Animals are as "not alike" as our children are, and my kids are almost total opposites. Showed me~~ ((Little Miss Can't Be Wrong)).. Don't know if you remember that song or not~~  | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/28/2005 8:43:16 PM | LMAO~~~My ex said it was my theme song, although I totally denied it at the time~~ Hmmmm......
But, our doggie is the best one ever... He's soooo cool ((except for imbibing in his little delicacies)).... He's more like a person than some people I know.  | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/28/2005 8:48:45 PM | | All my dogs are like humans... but the cats... omg.... they are above human life in their opinions!! | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 2:11:51 PM | my dog just died thursday night, while i was vacationing. i got the call from my friend. it took over 12 hours to get home from florida. it was hell. she died suddenly,in the middle of the night from a heart attack we guess. if she's not as important as people ,then why the hell do i feel like i lost my best friend? it's because i DID lose one of my best friends. for all the joys and pains they provide, i feel they truely are as important as anyone in my life. my friends would confirm that also, lucy was my heart. i would've killed for her or died for her. i don't mean to ramble or bum anyone out, just giving my 2 cents......so if you do have a pet, hug them tonight, and give them an extra one for me. happy new year everyone........ dc | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 2:16:48 PM | DC
My heart goes out to you. Our little pug just got a few more hugs as a result of your email.
I know Lola is as important to my daughter and me as some humans we know. We love her dearly and would do anything to keep her happy and healthy. All my friends feel the same way about their pets.
My thoughts are with you as you deal with your loss. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 2:29:29 PM | Damm that's two critters just this holiday from the regulars here. I heard an interesting conversation yesterday on a local radio show where the host has for years advocated responsible pet ownership. She was going on about the kill shelters. I always seek irony in all things and listened on finding none there. She is a proponent of no kill by the way. I opened the paper this morning and saw there were millions of folks starving in Africa, Ethiopa in particular as they suffered the worst drought in years. I can't reconcile the two. There are too damn many pets. Unscrupulous breeders foist them upon caring individuals such as yourselves and compassion drives you to amazing lengths to sustain these creatures. Admirable it is. But worthy? There is no way in hell that an animal is as important as a person. They are certainly not to be mistreated but something ought to be done with the geneswapping basement full of pet shit promoters of this genetically mutated orgy. But that's just me. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 4:48:14 PM | | A pets death teaches young people the truth about our present state of mortality. The only thing is if a human is about to die they need someone there to keep them company. Many times a cat will just go off into the woods to die not needing a persons or other cats attention. So why the need for family since we all know we will die? This is caused by the humans immortality fixed and hard wired into our brains. Pets and animals do not have this desire to live on so they can't rightly be as important since they were not given that quality. Why they have no desire to live past their breeds life cycle is no secret to thinking people exposed to the Bibles principles. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 5:25:08 PM | | Can you cite specific instances of humans as you state wanting others around as they die? All of my experiences are contrary to that. I think you have a valid point as humans desire others when they are merely sick and having their temporary immortality challenged. But ones I've known who'd rather die alone were quite adamant. Humans have a breed lifecycle as well. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 5:57:12 PM | I consider my cat to be a fur person. I treat her as if she were my child. She loves me unconditionaly and that is something I think we all crave. She is content to sit on my lap or perch in the window. She does not demand anything from nor does she judge me for my mistakes. That is why I think so many people love their pets the way they do. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 6:14:40 PM | Well, tonight for New Years Eve,,,I gave my siberian husky a bath because she keeps biting like she has fleas. (probably does,,,we live in Florida and it was 85 degrees today,,,fleas don't get frozen down here)
So,,,I guess if I am bathing my dog on New Years Eve,,,,and will most likely give "her" a kiss...I would say pets are as important as people! 
Yippee! Scottsmom is giving her dog a bath New Years Eve, 2006! (don't tell anyone,,,or I will be totally embarassed,,,and I will DENY it.)
I REALLY have a date with Fabio tonight,,,,he's just a little late picking me up. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 6:21:27 PM | | I haven't had a pet since i was 17 years old, now that I've been divorce for 4 years and my kids are 19 and 20 i decided to get a pet...... a bird! I really like dogs a lot, but have been fascinated with with birds for sometime now and i think i have found my match....I love this little feather ball, and teaching him to fly has been real cool.... imagine that... and i don't know how to fly.... and they can be awesome watch birds. I like people lol, well some of them anyway but I like Kahuna ( sun conure)a lot more....Happy New Year | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 6:26:51 PM | Dogs go into the woods to die as well, I have yet to see many man or woman go off into the woods to die in the news.
"Can you cite specific instances of humans as you state wanting others around as they die?"
You don't have to look too far to see that, every war has men pleading to go home when injured in the battlefield. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 6:34:13 PM | It's a cultural thing. Eskimos set themselves adrift on ice floes, Native Americans wandered off to the wilderness voids. We have hospitals. Some would seek to alter natures course by nonsense instructed from the book you referenced.
That again is when hoping to live. Talk to me of those who are sure they will die. That was my point.
Death is a very personal thing. Most would choose solitude to reflect. Particularly the others who were living at the Hospice harkening back to Schaivo incident. Imagine if you will for a moment that you or a loved one were sent to die in that place that day and all of the morons on the lawn with their bullhorns and chanting. I wonder what their opinion of that would be. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 12/31/2005 11:01:29 PM |
You don't have to look too far to see that, every war has men pleading to go home when injured in the battlefield. I think the point made earlier answers this comment (see quote below)
I think you have a valid point as humans desire others when they are merely sick and having their temporary immortality challenged.
You said 'injured' not dying. Injured/sick humans may want to be around others. I'm not sure this answers the question about whether humans really do want others with them when they die.
It seems to me that when someone is dying, it's the living...the soon-to-be-survivors that want to be close to the dying person, not so much the other way around. The dying may just want to get to the next step and find release. The living seem to have a need to say good-bye to the one leaving...a need for closure. There are probably those who are dying who do want their loved ones with them while they are leaving life, but I'm not sure I agree to a blanket statement that all dying individuals want others with them.
As to whether animals always want to be alone when dying...I don't agree to that blanket statement either. That may be a question we can't answer 100% since animals can't talk. We can, however, discern the 'wants' of our pets if we're in tune with one another, just as we can discern the 'wants' of humans who may not have all their senses (e.g., deaf, mute, comatose, retarded, etc.) available. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 12:58:20 AM | if she's not as important as people ,then why the hell do i feel like i lost my best friend?
Please accept my condolances dark....I truly know how you feel. It's been three years since I had to have my Minnie put to sleep...I still cry when I think of her. Nothing in this world has been as bad for me. I held her in my arms and watched her soul leave her tiny body. Her eyes...I will never forget them...as she looked into mine and died. No one...and I mean no one.... can tell me that her life was any less valuable than that of a humans. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 1:07:42 AM | Dark and Heaven my heart goes out to you both. I have been down the same road, a very real, consuming, pain in the heart to lose them. I have figured the reason why this is such a different loss and a different love. Think about it... your pet has NEVER done anything other than love you, 100% unconditionally. I challenge anyone to admit they have had that kind of unconditional love from a human being. It is a very real, yet different, kind of love with a pet, therefore it is a very real, utterly devastating loss. There is a tribute sight for pets where you can post a tribute, and a picture of your pet and light a "candle" in their honor. There are also forums there with people from all over the world dealing with the same loss and struggling for peace and the ability to move forward from the loss. This sight helped me greatly, and all my "loved ones" have a tribute there that I can "visit" anytime. So are pets as important as people? IMO, a resounding HELL YEAH!!!!!  | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 1:51:56 AM | HELL YA!!!!!!!!!!!
nothing like when the pooch jumps up on the bed and lands right on the stomach (just after you ate)and stares at you saying "what the hell are u doing in bed? get up and take me for a walk" (probably)
how can you resist? blahahahahahaha! GB
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 8:04:22 AM | I challenge anyone to admit they have had that kind of unconditional love from a human being.
Very strong statement, perhaps too strong? That is unfortunate you have never felt unconditional love from more people rather then your pet. All I have to do is think about Jesus Christ who had that quality being perfect and still he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice.
Of course there are imperfect beings that have showed the same quality of love.There have been countless people that have helped survivors in many countries in 2005 with donations as well as people who have put their own life on the line. Those life saving jobs have to be out of love for the most part since the price to pay is above the call of duty. Parents have that unconditional love as well. As for pets, they don't have to deal with pressures to conform to a certain standard. The standards are all set when they are born and taught early on by the pets owner or animals parents. A bird knows they are a bird, a dolphin knows they are a dolphin, a shark knows they are a shark and so on. True, humans developed more pride but that is a part of imperfection which we all inherited. Animals did not inherit mankinds sin. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 10:03:19 AM | Poorgie
Maybe you should start a religion/fanatic thread so you can talk to folks who share your views. Mentioning religious stuff once or twice is not so bad, but you're getting a bit overbearing now and it's getting rather tiresome. | |
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| Are pets as important as people? Posted: 1/1/2006 11:07:51 AM | | No offense buddy but some precursury reading will net you a trove of monotheistic virgin birth godmen who once sacrificed ascended and la da da. History is full of them. If everyone here had a particularly favorite religious icon they promoted worship to this site could never support the necessary bandwidth. We just want to find friends in this thread as they relate to human relationships. Good luck to you. | |
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