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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 8:40:13 AM | To you guys who are starting to ATTACK people who happen to feel their pets are as important as people. I can almost guarantee these same people given a choice to save their own CHILD or their pet would automatically save their child and mourn their pet later.
Hold those horses of yours. I happen to be the first one to consider this challenge about unconditional love. This person has only felt it through a pet which can happen but everyone has a mother or a father who loves their child unconditionally. So as far as stating it is an all out attack on animal lovers, that is your opinion as well. I made a logical statement or question, if you want to try and answer it for the people who say pets are just as important as children then you may go right ahead. Even with drastic circumstance, they would go out of their way, even if their life is at stake, to save an animal. Now we have people saying actions speak louder then words so it would be interesting to hear some stories about animal life saving when the odds were against the pet owner other then the guy who is supposedly "attacking" the people who say they are just as important as pets.
I agree with joesch, to fully discuss the importance of animals, most people with faith in a higher being would know the answer to this question automatically.
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:21:07 AM |
Hold those horses of yours. I happen to be the first one to consider this challenge about unconditional love.
Tsk, tsk, mesnafugal. How could you not give Poorgie credit for this? Shameful, I say, just shameful.  | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:45:24 AM | I think horses are beautiful, but only from a distance these days.... I've been rubbed up against a fence, thrown several times, and, well..... I tried, but it didn't work~~ | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:02:31 AM | Some people have made the comment about peoples lives being less important then a pet, which is even worse then people saying your life is just as important. But if you think about your life being just as important, you might as well say your pets life can be more important if you are the one trying to save that pet by putting your own life on the line. So you might see the importance of a balanced view towards animals.
We as Americans and Europeans love our pets and take care of our pets as good if not better then ourselves. Pets only live as long as they were designed to. You can't add any more life to them. But it is sad that some pet owners have formed greater attachments to their pet then their spouse or mate or children. True some people have extra family members as pets, that's only because they have pets living under the same roof. I can call my lizard my household pet but he doesn't carry my family's last name in society. I can't count him as a dependant on my tax records. He can't carry the family genes.
Yes some pets and animals having a great sense with detecting danger, that is what they were designed to do! Some birds can tell if there is harmful gas in mines. Other pets are trained to call 911. The fact of the matter is they are important, but not as important as the people who train them and take care of them. | |
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AI03™
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Joined: 5/3/2005
Msg: 580 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:05:21 AM |
The fact of the matter is they are important, but not as important as the people who train them and take care of them.
In your opinion. The rest of us are entitled to ours. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:12:44 AM |
Pets only live as long as they were designed to. You can't add any more life to them.
And humans drink from the fountain of youth, I suppose? Human and animal lives are not everlasting. We all die. We can add (or subtract) only a few years with good (or bad) medical practices. Nothing more, nothing less. And please don't give your heaven and hell spiel. Some of us don't buy it. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:28:45 AM | I found this little snippet online at wonderpuppy.net
If your spouse, boyfriend, or girlfriend, is having a problem with your pet, you must try to find out why. Often with dogs, pack order is a problem here too. If a dog is living with one person when the other comes along, a dog might not want to give up the second in command position in his "pack". This is often interpreted as jealousy, when it's really a dominance problem, and your spouse will have to establish dominance. Or, you and your spouse may have been inconsistent, each treating the pet differently. You will have to start establishing a new relationship between you, your spouse and your dog. You should also call a professional behaviorist or trainer, their job is to train you to train your dog and establish that better relationship. I am wondering how much cash people have to dish out for those professional behaviorists. Anyone know? Might be a good job lead for me.
And please don't give your heaven and hell spiel. Some of us don't buy it.
Sorry I have my own mind as you have yours. And my faith has a clearer picture of heaven which only a select few will go to, as well as hell being the common grave and not a place of torment. The earth was not created to just be a breeding ground, it was created for a purpose. Pets were created for a purpose as well. You don't see pets having pets, only people could train pets. I am not too sure why google gives me a few spots for this question... could it be I make more sense? | |
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AI03™
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Joined: 5/3/2005
Msg: 583 | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:05:59 PM | Now... should I really continue this ladies???? I mean.. I can if you want me to... these guys are so bored that they have to continue this fight, but then I'm here at work all night so I could fight with them over it BUT... I feel POORGIE needs to start his OWN thread so I can give my opinion on it. Him and Joesph can then be ready for some arguments... but I really need to get at least ONE more cup of java down so I can crawl up on my little soap box without falling off... cause when I do get up there... 
Poorgie.. why do you keep continuing to argue about all this? And you are not the smartest person in the world about all this for the record and I'm telling you right now NOT every person in the world has PARENTS that give them unconditional LOVE!!!! So why not open your closed eyes!!! Some people are not as lucky as others to have HUMANS in their life that they can depend on for love or anything else. If they are able to love and be loved by their pet then let them love that pet unconditionally and more than people. So what?? Does it hurt anyone for them to do this??? NO it does not, and at least they are able to have love in their life if it be a pet or human. Why can't you just accept the fact that some people have no choice but to make a pet their family. You are lucky you have such a perfect life and know all about everything God has informed you on.
God works in mysterious ways Poorgie (and Joesph) and he has obviously "designed" animals to give us humans love and in some cases to take care of us in many ways. So to me you are arguing with GOD!!! I can debate this all night... and you can bring religion in it if you REALLY want to but I can argue those points just as well. I grew up in church every sunday but now I have my own type of faith. And in MY faith it is where you let people love who and what they want. You know what.. YOU are not the judge here.... and if this way we love our pets is wrong, then GOD will slap our hands.. NOT YOU!!!
Ok... I'm pouring my second cup of java.. I think I need it because I have no idea what the heck I just wrote.... | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:07:34 PM | cherubangel.. YES he is still bored with life and wanting to argue points over and over which nobody in here is really interested in.... But... I have nothing better to do tonight.. so what the heck... I might play his stupid little game I might not.. haven't decided... | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 587 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:19:25 PM | YOU are not the judge here.... and if this way we love our pets is wrong, then GOD will slap our hands.. NOT YOU!!!
You know I am really sick of being brought in and out of this conversation,I have judged noone I have merley stated my opinions about things,i have said I have the right to argue and you mensafugal have told me that i didn't,once again I don't care how you love your pets makes no difference to me I put the order in which I saw life in a earlier post i put the pet above myself,but not above other human beings,maybe you should go back and have a look,you can drink all the JAVA that you like take your sips and pretend that you have something to say.I simply look at life a differn't way than you do.By the way do me a favor and tell me where i judged you bring it up to me so I can appologize to you as well,i have no problem when i am wrong in doing so,I wonder do you? | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:22:04 PM | | No judging from here...just think that animals/pets are better than people....innocent until done wrong, and still then they are usually still very loyal!!! | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 589 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:26:40 PM |
just think that animals/pets are better than people....innocent until done wrong, and still then they are usually still very loyal!!!
I wonder do they have the brains not to be,and by the way don't we have something to do with the way they are we train them? | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:43:13 PM | Awwww... joesph.. I only brought your name up once when going back to what Poorgie said.
But.. we do not "train" pets to love us now do we? AND.. I do have something to say, whether I'm drinking or sipping my java or not.... so there! | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 591 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 9:53:08 PM |
But.. we do not "train" pets to love us now do we?
On the contrary you actually do have a part in how your pet loves you,if all you do is beat your pet the pet doesn't love you it is scared of you,the same way if you bring up a child that way eventually it will turn on you,now on the other hand if you show your pet love it will love you back,even if sometimes you are in a bad mood,it still will,the same as a child,the difference is this the pets mentality is way below that of a humans,but I am sure you are going to tell me now how your animals are smarter and give you more satisfaction than your human friends so why do i bother,even though science has proved that the human mind is the most complicated,pets are taught the way you teach them humans have the brains to do whatever they want,but for the most part if you show a child unconditional love you will get it back,sometimes ten fold. | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 592 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:17:32 PM | | I think that maybe some of the people on here not saying any names should go over to the dolphin weds woman and stick up for the poor woman lol,some of you sound like you might just marry your animals as well | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:17:32 PM | What's up with you two Joe? It's like you two are a tag-team in WWF!!
Posters can't even come in this thread to comment...and if you or poorgie do not agree with a poster's opinion, one or both of you jump on them....Jezzzus. Makes one wonder if this is an attention issue, or what it is. You can argue with each and every poster...if you like..which is obvious, but that in no way, shape or form...will convince anyone to "see things your way"....which is very plain to see, is what you two are trying to do. Do you two feel that if you have the last word...that some-how you have "won"...and everyone else has "lost"? What other motive would you have, for displaying such nonsense?
Let people come in and give their opinion...just like you have. I know you'll be squirmin' in your chair...aching to add your two cents...but, come on...for the love of God, try!!  | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 594 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:20:40 PM | | It's WWE by the way WWF was taken by some government agency or something like that.I really do not like to argue,but why must i be brought in and out of the thread I was out of it and my name kept being brought up that is why I am still here | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:53:18 PM | It's WWE by the way WWF was taken by some government agency or something like that.I really do not like to argue,
joe, joe, joe...you really DO love to argue. You know you do. Otherwise, you would have let the WWF slide, but nooooooo....just couldn't let it go, could you?
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 596 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:57:36 PM |
joe, joe, joe...you really DO love to argue. You know you do. Otherwise, you would have let the WWF slide, but nooooooo....just couldn't let it go, could you.
Goodday I think you like to argue or else you would have not badgered me on my wwe post anyway i would actually love to get out of this thread anyway you could pull some strings and tell people that i have made my peace here and to please quit bringing me up | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 10:59:46 PM |
It's WWE by the way WWF was taken by some government agency or something like that
Ahhhh...OK..pardon my ignorance. But, I only watch such a show if bound, gagged and duct-taped to the couch...so, not really up with what happenin' in regards to wrestling.
why must I be brought in and out of the thread I was out of it and my name kept being brought up that is why I am still here
Well...most posters go back a few pages, in order to ensure they don't repeat what has been stated by another poster already. So...if they see someone repeatedly expressing their views and not giving others the courtesy of expressing theirs, they make themselves a target for criticism. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:08:23 PM |
i would actually love to get out of this thread anyway you could pull some strings and tell people that i have made my peace here and to please quit bringing me up
It is addicting, isn't it? | |
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joesch
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Joined: 4/21/2003
Msg: 599 | |
| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:11:04 PM |
Well...most posters go back a few pages, in order to ensure they don't repeat what has been stated by another poster already. So...if they see someone repeatedly expressing their views and not giving others the courtesy of expressing theirs, they make themselves a target for criticism.
Everyone had a chance to express their views the problem was when I expressed mine i was jumped on I orginally was asked on this thread are pets as important as people I SAID NOT IN MY EYES then i went away to come back to about ten people expressing thier views on how i was wrong,so therefor I stuck up for myself is that not what these threads are for so differen't people with differen't views can express thier thoughts openly,you people are acting like I am some kind of monster for having a different view then you,I think if you went and looked at some of my other posts you would find out something a little differen't,let me put it to you this way if i said this is just a example ok if i said my cat is better then yours would you not come back with a remark,I mean think about it I have a right to stick up for myself and believe it or not i do not want people saying things that are not true about me,thats all. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/4/2006 11:14:51 PM |
ok if i said my cat is better then yours would you not come back with a remark
I don't think we would. Then you'd be on our side and love your animal like we love ours.
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