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 Skyliner

Joined: 3/9/2006
Msg: 801
Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/2/2007 9:47:05 AM
In Answer to the OP'S question,

Considering pets become very much part of the Family then yes they are just as important as people, some of those pets will still be around long after your kids have grown up and left home......A classic example is your Jack Russell Terrier....they can live up to 21 years of age !!

They (Dogs) are Unconditional in their love....cats are more picky !! Both will still welcome you home from work at the end of the day though !!!

Yes I have 2 dogs too...One aged almost 16 years old now and her daughter aged almost 9. The younger one is still very much like a 2 year old so she will be around for a while yet. The Older one still likes her walks but at her own pace lol !!!
 deleted00801

Joined: 12/2/2006
Msg: 802
Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/2/2007 10:04:12 AM


I prefer animals to people. People are never innocent.


Aggreed!



Animals are always innocent. But they make lousy lovers.


Tell that to some men in austrailia, where the men are men the women are few and the sheep are nervous.
 16sage7

Joined: 11/27/2006
Msg: 803
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Posted: 1/2/2007 3:09:50 PM
Pets are never more important than someone you love. If I had a pet I loved and fell in love with a woman that could not live with an animal then good buy Garfield!!!! After all she can do things for me that a pet can't. If it didn't work out I can always get another pet faster then finding real love.
 Skyliner

Joined: 3/9/2006
Msg: 804
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Posted: 1/2/2007 5:35:52 PM
Pets are never more important than someone you love. If I had a pet I loved and fell in love with a woman that could not live with an animal then good buy Garfield!!!! After all she can do things for me that a pet can't. If it didn't work out I can always get another pet faster then finding real love.


Ok so you have a pet before some girl you meet, you are going to ditch that pet when she comes along...??? You shouldn't be owning a pet full stop. Ok have girlfriends but don't neglect the pet you had before she came along either !!!..Pretty much in the same way as women with kids will expect you to accept them too. If your relationship dies your faithful companions are always there for you !!!

A lot of pet places (Shops and Pet Welfare Charities) are Now actively vetting against owners like you who will just ditch a pet in favour of a new plaything.

Ok some pets are easier to keep than others but they still need some of your time and love too, Especially when we are talking dogs/cats or even possibly horses too.

When I met my ex in 2000 I had 2 dogs by then, The eldest I'd since 5 weeks old and so was 9 years old by the time I met my ex, the other dog was almost 3...my ex knew I had them but chose to accept that fact at the time too !!!

She also tried to run my eldest dog over 4 years ago when she stormed off in a huff, If she had, it would have been the last thing she did and her career buggered too !!!

Needless to say the ex has gone but I still have my 2 dogs, the eldest is now nearly 16 and the other (A pup of the eldest dog, is almost 9)....No woman will ever give you unconditional love like a dog will !!!

So all Bunny Boilers beware !!!
 smitten2meetu

Joined: 11/16/2004
Msg: 805
Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/3/2007 1:11:32 PM
The place I live has no pets rule, which is fine, due to not being home on a frequent basis. I feel to own a pet, you have to a regular hours, not swing shifts in your current job, and be consistant, since animals will feel ignored and do bad things to get your attention.

I love pets, if I had more consistancy in my life, and have dated people that had a dog, cat or both. Pets play important role from being welcome friend, protector, to assisting needs of people who may have a disability. I have chosen over the years not to own a pet, due to believing they should co-exist happily with your lifestyle and live their lives until they pass on. If you don't want to invest 7, 10 to even 20 plus years in the same animal, then I wouldn't have a pet if you can't give your pet love and attention.
 SingingBabe26

Joined: 12/20/2006
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Posted: 1/3/2007 7:34:10 PM
My Answer to the question Is Definitely Yes. I hate it when people say they are just animals because they are not. I have a dog and 3 cats and they are part of my family. They have emotions just like us The suffer from stress, anger, sadness, happiness, excitement and things like that Just like we do. How can anyone say any different? Pets Are just as important as we are and we should treat them with respect. In fact my pets are my babies and that's what I call them I don't even call them pets because I don't see them that way. They are so much like kids and every animal has it's own personality.
 16sage7

Joined: 11/27/2006
Msg: 807
Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 1/3/2007 10:24:34 PM
Hey Skyliner-- msg: 806

You are taking what I said way out of context dude. I qualified my point of view by saying "real love". There was no reason for you to attack my perspective. Just for the record I don't have pets for the simple reason my lifestyle is incompatible with taking proper care of such a thing. I am responsible enough to know that from the gate.

To let the truth be known I will not live with anything that can’t clean up its own mess barring a human child. So there be no reason for any pet group to come down on me so cut me a break.

I have no problem with you getting unconditional love anyway you can. For me hugging a dog has never given me the same emotional satisfaction as a woman I loved. Love for animals is a different expression than for human beings. I do love nature and all its components.

By the way, women give me unconditional love in my life: my sisters, aunts, and my ex-wife who I have been a friend for 25 years. Remember you get the love that you allow or deserve. More importantly you attract what is in your heart. Even animal have their limits for giving unconditionally love. See how much love spot will have for you if abused by your hand? So I think is fair to say you get what you give even with humans and animals.
 Amielle

Joined: 4/22/2006
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Posted: 1/3/2007 10:32:19 PM
I have a nice man that lives next door.he is warm and cuddly,and kinda furry.He runs to meet me when I pull up to my house.He is always in a good mood, otherwise he doesnt bother me if he isnt. He always likes to see me,and sits by the front door,even tho he lives next door. His name is Cheerio ,and he is a cat.
 METALLlC BLUE

Joined: 5/17/2006
Msg: 809
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Posted: 1/4/2007 4:04:17 AM
Everytime I see a "pet" thread, I can't help but feel the bitterness of relationships with people are reflected in the tone of some posts. The theme I see is "My pet wouldn't hurt me, pets are innocent, my pet doesn't argue with me, pets are better than people etc.

It seems for some people pets "are" safe, as I said earlier. With a pet they don't have to take the risk of actually socializing with a person and risking being injured or vunerable.

Obviously this isn't how it works for all people, but it's easy to observe just by reading this thread that it's true for "some."
 Chrysi

Joined: 4/24/2006
Msg: 810
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Posted: 1/4/2007 11:33:23 AM
Ok animals are animals. People are people. Can we reconginze the difference here? I think that people who treat thier pets as if they were people are trying to fill some void in their life. To begin compare the two to me is well..... lets put it this way the day I compare my child, my boyfriend, my parents, etc. to a dog or cat I will feel deeply sorry for myself.
 joeandgarcia

Joined: 2/13/2006
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Posted: 1/4/2007 11:50:17 AM
Well said, chrysi,,,my thoughts exactly,,if we are having bad times with men or women we need to look at it, not run from it, if we think the opposite sex are all a__ holes we need to remember the old and wise saying ," people do not attract that which they want,,but that which they are" of course animals are great, they love us no matter how self centered we are, how poorly we communicate or dont communicat, if we cant share, if we cant negotiate or compromise,,they keep on loving us,,I forgot to feed my dog one morning before I went to work,,I was late and it was a bad morning,,I think my dog even loved me more when I came home?????hello,,we need people around calling us on our sh__,,it keeps us improving and on the reality track.
 Drugstore Cowboy

Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 812
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Posted: 1/4/2007 11:51:04 AM
pets are just as important as people thats why pets show love for their owners and inside each pet is a soul a heart and a mind thats just as human as we are

i love animals you dont see animals fu-cking people over for money or any of the seven deadly sins you have to earn trust from an animal...
 Drugstore Cowboy

Joined: 7/1/2006
Msg: 813
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Posted: 1/4/2007 11:51:43 AM
pets are just as important as people thats why pets show love for their owners and inside each pet is a soul a heart and a mind thats just as human as we are

i love animals you dont see animals fu-cking people over for money or any of the seven deadly sins you have to earn trust from an animal...
 Nightwing66

Joined: 8/1/2006
Msg: 814
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Posted: 1/4/2007 12:13:48 PM
So, you get in a car crash and are laid up in the hospital. All you have in your life is a dog. Not only do you have to call another human to take care of your pet, but it can't help out w/ bills, etc until you are back on your feet.

Yes, pets are wonderful! But beyond a certain empathy & some great, woofy slobberings, it's pretty much a one-sided relationship when the chips are down.

Life is defined by it's extremes.....in both the highs & lows, it's people who make the big differences.

Pets are more loveable in general...but people are more important.
 bocellis

Joined: 12/30/2006
Msg: 815
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Posted: 1/4/2007 12:22:34 PM
I totally agree. Without dogs in my life it wouldn't be complete. Dogs give you unconditional love above and beyond what any human can give.
 Abetha

Joined: 8/5/2006
Msg: 816
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Posted: 1/4/2007 12:24:54 PM
i've always had a pet......they are our constant companions, they love us unconditionally, always happy to see us, bring us joy......i love my pets.....having one dog in particular which is my favorite......she's always at my side.....do i love her more than my children? no...do i prefer her company over my teenagers.....yep, some days more than others.....when i separated from a spouse, having custody over the cat was a priority....did i care about the cat more than him...yep......do i love my pets too much.....maybe....my daughter thinks so.....what gets to her the most is when i talk to them.. meh!
 ISORealismNOTPerfection

Joined: 1/30/2006
Msg: 817
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Posted: 1/4/2007 12:58:21 PM
I also adopted a JRT at my local humane society back in July. I never thought I could love her as much as I do a human, but I do. She is my baby, definitely. I have three children, but with the addition of my baby, that makes 4. lol She hopefully will be around when I have grandchildren. She listens to me when I want to complain about something and never talks back. She is always willing to go with me when I want to go for a run, wakes up with me of the mornings and goes to bed at nite when I tell her to. She is very well behaved with the exception of the occasional "got to run after a squirrel"... I have to admit one gets attached to these little critters quickly. Never thought it would happen to me, but it did. I wonder if dogs are females best friend,, if so, I have mine lol.
 Banchie

Joined: 10/16/2006
Msg: 818
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Posted: 1/5/2007 6:09:06 AM
I have 2 snakes 2 cats a bearded dragon and a crocodile gecko and i love them as though they were my children (i don't have kids btw). My cats are at the door when i leave for work and are still waiting for me when i come home if not then they are running to great me. Also when i am crying for any reason, both my cats come up on my lap and snuggle me. My snakes are reminders of a great friendship and a bad relationship, My dragon is a very dependant reptile, chopping vegetables feeding crickets pools of water lights on/off, alot of responsibility. The crocodile gecko was a birthday present from my tattoo artist, and impossible to get to eat, a total challenge.
My pets are always there for me, forever greatful, and comforting.
I definitly love my pets more than anything and any guy that wants to be in a relationship with me better love them just as much as i do or forget it. hahaha
 JulietJuliet

Joined: 10/22/2006
Msg: 819
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Posted: 1/5/2007 7:30:12 AM
Love me, love my cats. Simple. I would never allow myself to be put in a position where I have to chose. My cats were here first, they are a part of me and my family, and with all due respect, I love them and that's the bottom line.
 pinebreeze

Joined: 2/6/2006
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Posted: 1/5/2007 7:58:06 AM
(Women will never give you unconditional Love) Its sweeping moronic generalized statements like this that give the animal lovers a bad name. And, for the author's of such statements an assured life of NO women! ha.

As far as I am concerned, I see a whole lot of resignation...misplaced loyalty...bitterness...generalizations...sarcasm....resentments...etc going on here by the so-called animal lovers. Its wonderful to have a pet. And I believe you can Love pets. But, to do so at the exclusion of our most powerful connections and love affairs in this life...other humans... is somehow dysfunctional. Seems to me. I would say... be very careful about how much you anthropomorphize your animals! (attribute human characteristics to them)
 Sombient

Joined: 9/29/2006
Msg: 821
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:03:51 PM
Little eye opener about pets and their owners.



Pet owners have poorer health than normal

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - While research has suggested that pets can offer people health benefits, a new study from Finland finds that pet owners tend to be heavier, less active and in poorer health than those without a pet. However, that doesn't mean pets are bad for us, the researchers note. Rather, people most likely to have a pet, such as middle-aged and home-owners, also tend to be more sedentary and thicker around the middle.

Researchers at the University of Turku in Finland report the findings in PLoS ONE, an online journal published by the Public Library of Science.

A number of studies have suggested that certain people benefit from living with a dog or cat -- a pet may help lower blood pressure and heart rate, for example, or ease stress, loneliness and even dementia-related agitation in the elderly.

But whether pet owners as a group are a healthier lot has been unclear. The new findings suggest they're not. Using survey data from more than 21,000 young to middle-aged Finnish adults, researchers found that pet owners were generally more likely to be overweight and to view their own health as poor.

This was largely because pet owners tended to be middle-aged, have less education and more health-risk factors, explained Dr. Leena K. Koivusilta, the study's lead author.

And despite having Fido to take for walks, even dog owners typically got little exercise. This is likely because they were often home-owners who could simply put the dog in the yard, Koivusilta noted.

The fact that pet owners were in poorer health does not mean that furry companions aren't a health boon in some cases, she told Reuters Health. "In my opinion," Koivusilta said, "pets provide us all with a vast potential for health promotion, and this has indeed been shown when some special groups have been studied."

Pet owners, according to the researchers, may just need to make more of an effort -- such as walking and playing with the dog instead of showing him the way to the yard.

SOURCE: PLoS One, December 2006.


This has been my experience as well. I've found neighbor's pets were never walked, with the exception of taking them to the school grounds to crap (how pleasantly thoughtful of them). Many of these animals are slightly neurotic. Some bark and exhibit overly aggressive behavior, some have separation anxiety and some are clearly depressed from their lack of exercise and being kept in confined space for long hours each day.

Their owners are uniformly sedentary. Why have a dog if you won't exercise it. OTOH, if you know that letting a cat outside to run free can shorten its life expectancy substantially, why do it?

Its also been my experience that pet owners and their families who are sedentary have a higher rate of allergies and asthma, probably as much due to immune system dysfunction from a lethargic lifestyle and poor diet, as from exposure to pet dander. I also found that pet owners who couldn't be bothered walking their dogs also bathed and brushed them less frequently - and at least in the case of dogs, this resulted in skin and coat condition problems that worsened the likelihood of allergies.

I'm much more likely to have friends who take care of their pets. They have fewer problems with fleas and shedding, and their animals are well behaved - and fun to be around, because they are not constantly intruding seeking attention, as emotionally immature dogs do who are not properly cared for each day.


I feel to own a pet, you have to a regular hours, not swing shifts in your current job, and be consistant, since animals will feel ignored and do bad things to get your attention.


I have seen this first hand. My last gov't job had a department that operated in three shifts for 8 months a year. The dog owners in the group who were single (3) all had problems with their dogs - constantly seeking attention /insecurity.
 farmboy21

Joined: 5/31/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:06:14 PM
LMAO sounds like alot of people here need a good dose of something God knows what
 pirate510

Joined: 12/23/2006
Msg: 823
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:20:10 PM
Animals are not much different from humans. Feeling pain and pleasure is all that life is and all animals do that. Being smart does not make our life better or more meaningful.
 dbndon

Joined: 7/15/2005
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Posted: 1/11/2007 8:44:19 AM
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a new study from Finland finds that pet owners tend to be heavier, less active and in poorer health than those without a pet.
Bullshit!

People I know walk their dogs a few times every day. I ran mine in the woods every day. So, okay, I didn’t run with him, too, but who the hell can keep up with a large Great Dane?

Point is, we were both out walking miles daily.

And, even my neighbor ladies, with little yappers, do that two or three times each day. Yeah, they go walk outside for a mile or two. Fancy that, eh?

Actually, I think that having a little mutt is the only thing that keeps some of these local women off their big butts all the time. Otherwise, they would be spending all of their time down at the dining room, library and game and craft rooms. Having a little critter to walk a couple times a day at least gets them outside once in a while, and walking.

Of course, what do I know, eh?

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 junipermoon

Joined: 3/1/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2007 10:33:49 AM
many people who suffer from chronically ill health find it comforting to keep a companion animal. studies such as the one cited can certainly indicate this. we need to realize that poor health can and may precede acquisition of an animal...

now...back on topic...

you can tell a great deal about an individual by their interactions with animals. if someone can't properly care for an animal, how on earth can they be expected to hold up their end in a relationship?
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