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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 2/2/2007 8:12:42 PM | Pets and people serve two, at least, basic and different functions.
As a species most of us are hardwired to interact with others of the same species. For 95% of people, at a guess, that human to human interaction is necessary for a healthy life. Most folks just don't do well without some sort of connection with fellow humans.
A pet can be a substitute for missing interaction with other humans and some very serious bonds can be formed. This is all well and good. However, as was previously mentioned, there are certain things a pet, even a fantastically smart one, cannot provide that human interaction can.
The need for communication for example. It's pretty easy to have a one-sided conversation with your pet but even if it disagrees with you, going totally anthropromorphic, you'd be unlikely to know it because you don't speak the same language.
I take my dog to the dogpark regularly and am amazed every time I go by the people who do not speak even rudimentary dog. They don't understand growls and head postures, licking and buttsniffing, barking and psuedo aggression, often stopping their dogs from expressing themselves due to human embarrassment or fear of their dog hurting or being hurt by being its natural self. It's a damn shame. They do more that just wag their tails when they're happy and most don't seem to get that and so I say that communication is lacking.
The problem with humans communicating is there is so much nonesense involved, so much that is not truthful for whatever reason that it's well nigh impossible to be sure of anything you're told unless you have a very longstanding and very intimate, not necessarily sexual, just emotionally expressive, relationship and even then it's a tough call.
So, are pets more important than people?
Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
I think a better question would be this one. Would you give up your pet if you met a person you wanted to be with who didn't want your pet in the relationship?
For me it's a no brainer. The dog stays. The cat I might get rid of but he's just letting me feed and house him anyway. Oh, and keep him warm on cold nights, he allows me to do that as well. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 2/2/2007 8:34:39 PM | I tell people I have 2 kids and 2 furkids........
I had my Arabian horse and my 2 Bichon Frise put in the property settlement. The lawyer kinda quesitoned it but I didn't want to take any chances that my ex would try anything funny......
Also....I've heard of people in a dilema about having to give away their dogs because of housing restricitons where they lived.......I'd move first!!
And as far as being with someone who didn't like my dogs.......it's definitely....love me love my dogs deal or no deal.
Someone who would a hurt an animal is definitely NOT someone you would EVER want to be around or in a relationship with.
During these past 6 months of my moving out and being on my own......they have kept me company, loved me and slept with me and given me a reason to get up in the morning (to let them out). | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 2/2/2007 8:53:17 PM | | i can live with animals... i'm almost convinced that i'd be happy raising dogs instead of children... i've got an awesome cat that has an awesome luv'able personality... actually when i was a kid i wanted to be a zoologist for a long time... i think that would be hott to work with exotic animals... | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 2/4/2007 11:02:29 AM | Absolutely! My Bella is more important than some people, in fact :) She's the one girl I can count on and she doesn't curse at me or hurt me in anyway. She loves me the way I am and she doesn't expect things from me.. other than treats and walks lol. I can honestly say she's the one.. not person, um.. friend :) that hasn't made me cry ever.  | |
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Joined: 1/31/2007
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 2/5/2007 3:44:30 PM | This depends on the person. If it is me and you dont like my dog, well your SOL. Other people would probably feel differently but my dog means a lot to me and if thats a problem with you then you are not going to be worth my time. With that said however, don't assume I would rather spend a night in with my dog then go out, but when we are both around my dog, don't expect me to lock it outside and ignor it either.  | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/12/2007 8:27:28 AM | My dog is my closest buddy.
For those that think they are just dogs, take a look at all of the chronicles of dogs that have saved lives.
Dogs are used as therapy dogs, seeing eye dogs, and there are countless examples of doggie heroics.
My big dog, that everyone calls a horse, occassionally beats me up, and he is intimidating to strangers. But he is kind, and protective, and he loves to cuddle. He is as important as any member of my family! | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/12/2007 10:42:19 AM | Well, as a Professional Dog Groomer for the past 19 years, I can attest to the fact that many, many people care about their dogs equal to if not MORE than their spouse/kids/etc..
Personally, what I love the MOST about my job is when the customer actually leaves, their dogs are great but sometimes, people can be annoying as hell! | |
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Joined: 8/24/2006
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/12/2007 9:23:19 PM | Well,
I for one am on my own for about 12 years. I also hated the fact that I came home every night and no one was waiting for me, so I decided to get some company and adopted 2 cats since they were a month or two old.. In the meanwhile I also have put up a website for found and lost pets. So pets play an important role in my life and I can't imagine being without them, so yea for me my cats are as important as other people.. I have to admit that I prefer my cats over most people... 
People may come and go, but my cats sure don't they always stay and cherish me... Probably because they know who gives them FOOD! LOL... | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/12/2007 9:26:47 PM | I've noticed that some people on E-Harmony have it listed under "other information": "I love my dog/cat/monkey so you should too."
I find that a little intimidating... I haven't even committed to LIKING you yet, but in order to do that I have to LOVE some animal that I haven't even met yet?
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/12/2007 10:09:39 PM | ^^^
I think they just want you to know upfront that the pet stays no matter what. Some guys have expressed surprise that I have 3 dogs and have even made the comment that "that will change when we're together." Huh...I don't think so. They may not know it, but they've just signed the relationship death warrant. I don't appreciate being told about the changes I'm going to have to make to be with this person. Plus, I made a commitment to my pups when I got them that they would have a home as long as I was breathing and I don't plan to go back on it.
Personally, I like knowing what I'm up against early on. Ex-whatever, bratty kids, licking dogs, weeding gardens...whatever, but at least I know ahead of time if I want to get involved or not and I have a little bit of an idea of the challenges. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 5:12:55 AM | i know a pet can become part of a family even be thought of as a child, i had to put one down and got a new one and they know how to give you unconditional love like no other... i know i spoil mine to death she is a chyna doll, thats why i named mine chyna she even has her own tierra for a princess that she.. and wow what a wardrobe she has.. no she does not sit in my purse lol
all animals need love too  | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 5:15:10 AM | i know a pet can become part of a family even be thought of as a child, i had to put one down and got a new one and they know how to give you unconditional love like no other... i know i spoil mine to death she is a chyna doll, thats why i named mine chyna she even has her own tierra for a princess that she.. and wow what a wardrobe she has.. no she does not sit in my purse lol
all animals need love too | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 5:29:46 AM | I would never assume that the pets would somehow just go away... I don't mind animals. I love dogs. I tolerate cats, you never know where you stand with a cat.
I just find "LOVE MY DOG! I COMMAND IT!!!!" to be a bit forward. Hell, I love my parents, but I'm happy if a SO tolerates them. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 6:43:10 AM | I do not COMMAND that anyone loves my dog. However, it is one of the criterion I have for whom I will choose to enter into a relationship. I don't COMMAND anyone to attempt to become a part of my world.
I already have my dog. If I had a SO first, then there would be some room for discussion.
Regarding your parents, you do not live with your parents, do you? My dog is always around. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 6:50:18 AM | No I don't live with my parents. They live hundreds of miles away.
I'm just saying... someone should get to meet the dog in question before being told that in order for the relationship to work they must love it.
Oh, nevermind... this isn't coming across well, and if I continue I'll just look like a jackass. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 7:28:11 AM |
someone should get to meet the dog in question before being told that in order for the relationship to work they must love it.
Possibly this is true, but I (personally) would prefer to know up front that there IS a pet my potential partner is committed to before we ever get involved.
Speaking only for myself, I just know right now, not being involved, that if any man wanted to be with me, he'd have to take my dogs, too...and I don't just mean 'tolerate' them, because that person may not treat them right when I'm not around. If the guy doesn't want my pets, then that's a person I would NEVER even bother to meet for the first time anyway. There's just no sense going down a dead end road...and dead end to me means nothing in common or not seeing eye-to-eye on important issues. My pups ARE an important issue for me. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 7:30:48 AM | Animals always grow on me eventually. Even my best friends' mean cats.
The other day one of the cats jumped into my chair because she saw that I was about to sit down. Then she gave me a mean look.
Somehow the evil as become endearing. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/13/2007 4:24:49 PM | | Pets are innocent, loyal and don't have hidden agendas. For the most part they are the epitome of unconditional love when they're taken care of properly. They can be entertaining to watch and interact with... and they seem to just know when you're not well or feeling blue. Many examples of 'pet therapy' have been documented with ill / injured people. There's something so awe inspring about how their presence can give that extra dose of 'happy'. I owe my sanity to my kitties! lol | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/27/2007 7:00:52 PM | Catalyst (message 852)
I agree with you, the dog stays. I state firmly in my profile that we are a package deal.
When we first fell in love, he was such a little soft furball, but now he has grown into a horse.
I have taken great pains and expense to socialize him, and if nothing else, I have succeeded at that.
I took him to the dog park today, for the first time since winter began last year. He instantly acclimated and had a great time.
It is astounding, as you say, how many people do not speak even rudimentary dog. I personally have discovered that I have a knack, though maybe not quite on the level of the Dog Whisperer, and I am still learning as I go.
I got so many dog kisses today, and tald about a great stress buster!
I happened to be the closest human to several dogs getting into a challenge, so like the dope that I am, I got between them and broke it up. Oliver was the instigator, and I kept the dogs separated until his owner caught up and settled him down. Yes, I grabbed this great big dog.
In my neighborhood, there are a lot of dogs. My big, goofy dog is so friendly that he wants to say hello to every dog he sees.
Last week, my big Rottweiler galloped towards this man and his 10-month old dog, to which he understandably did not take kindly. I met him and his dog this evening as I was leaving a store. He had thought Riley wanted to eat his dog, so he was pretty nasty, but we made peace and I am very glad of that, and next time we see each other, our dogs will be able to do the butt sniffing ritual.
Child-free people are especially protective of their dogs, though I know people with both children and critters that are equally protective of both. Of course, if it came down to getting rid of one or the other, they would choose the critter over the child, at least one would hope.
Riley helped me to teach a four month-old puppy to learn to sit the other day.
Dogs are also credited with helping people with serious illnesses recover.
Eventually, my dog will be a certified therapy dog, but right now he still has too much puppy in him. Every time he brings a smile to someone's face, I know that is his Destiny! | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/28/2007 2:21:40 AM | Of course, if it came down to getting rid of one or the other, they would choose the critter over the child, at least one would hope..
Strike that! Reverse it! Whoops! I meant to say that in that situation they would choose the child over the critter! | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 3/28/2007 6:11:24 AM | It all depends on who the people are .... and who's pet it is ...
Like my pet centipede
he is way more important than George Bush
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