| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/12/2005 7:08:06 AM | As for the Katrina issue - the head of our SPCA spent 3 weeks down there. The shelter down there lost everything, just like everyone else lost just about everything. It is a sad situation for all.
As for the comment above about people who treat their animals well benefiting by treating people the same...I treat people with respect, and also rarely meet people who have a genuine heart. I've never met an animal who didn't have a heart, but people on the other hand...
One problem in our society is that animals are treated like property. A prime example is my one dog who I got from a bad breeder...she has hip dysplasia that is genetic, and it is considered by law that Zoe is a piece of personal property. I see people everyday looking to buy an animal in the same way that they would be out shopping for a sofa. I hate it. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/12/2005 8:05:58 AM | Quote
This is exactly why I won't date guys who have no pets, no humans, and/or no plants to care for.
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Sounds like a good stategy
Ive also heard that many women consider the relationship that a man has with his mother is also very telling of who he is as a person. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/12/2005 8:18:11 AM | Love is not limited to humans companions. I love my pets as much as I love my son, or any other member in my family. | |
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| Are pets as important as people?
Posted: 12/12/2005 8:20:33 AM | | My border collie has kept me sane and I love her to bits. Any guy dating me had better be ok around animals. She's part of my life and if it comes to a choice I'll always choose her. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:27:37 AM | Quote
I see people everyday looking to buy an animal in the same way that they would be out shopping for a sofa. I hate it.
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I totally agree.
My boxer was let out of my fence by I think the electric meter guy and until I found her at the county dog control kill shelter,I was stressing big time.
I couldnt imagine just replacing her by another Boxer and just feeling fine about it.
Dogs have very defined individual personalities.
Its like losing person you care about and then replacing them with the same ethenticity.
This brings up the same issue of all these people that are cloning their animals and are thinking they will get the same animal back next time around .
Each and every soul is very uneek and different and that is what we connect with as living beings for those of us that can connect on a deeper level.
I believe some people walk through life and never connect with people or animals on a spiritual level,for those people a dog is just a dog and a womens value is a composite of her body parts ,toss either of them and get another no biggie.
I believe in God but am not religious and feel we will all be judged some day by our interactions and relationships with ALL living things | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:29:52 AM |
Ive also heard that many women consider the relationship that a man has with his mother is also very telling of who he is as a person.
Hard to say if this is true or not. I've seen men who treat their mothers like saints and other women like trash...no one can be as good or better than my mother mentality. And I've seen men who respect other women as they respect their mother and treat them all very well. I think you need to decide based on the whole package (or at least as much of the package as you're able to see) and not on just one or two things...unless they are obvious red flags. Then run like hell! I think this applies to any human relationship. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:32:17 AM |
This brings up the same issue of all these people that are cloning their animals and are thinking they will get the same animal back next time around .
Might this not be a clue as to how much the person loved their animal? They may love that pet so much they just want it back again in any form. That's how I would feel and that would be my motivator to take such action. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:41:14 AM | Quote
One problem in our society is that animals are treated like property.
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In a court of law the value of a animal is what it would cost to buy a new one from a local pet store or the paper,so its is very much the same as any other piece of property like replacing a lawnmower.
In Colorado is the one state that have redifined the definition and value of a pet that goes beyond relacement value which is a good thing. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:46:48 AM | I'm a total dog lover. Yet if I had to choose between saving a person's life and saving a dog's life--and I could only choose one--I'd have to save the person. People are more important, even though they are a much bigger pain in the rump than a pet! | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 8:56:44 AM | quote
Might this not be a clue as to how much the person loved their animal? They may love that pet so much they just want it back again in any form. That's how I would feel and that would be my motivator to take such action
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I guess it depends on what you are trying to replicate.
If you want to have the same phisical attributes back then you might be in luck but if you want the same personality,then you would have the chance at thring to beat the house at Vegas.
Their is one problem with cloned animals.
they live shorted lives and have a higher rate of birth defects .
How short their lives are will depend on the age of the dog when the DNA is extracted.
If the DNA is extracted from an old dog ,the young clone will age at a very rapid rate.
Also for every clone there is a high number of mutated deformed animal that will come as a result.
So what do you do with theses so called mistakes?
To be someone that clones you cant by defenition believe in" Reverence for life "because many will be tossed in the waste bucket ,their only focus is the "progession of science"and the animals are dispensable | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 9:55:39 AM | If you are a Christian then you would know man was charged with caring for the earth and all its animals. How humans carry out their responsibility toward animals is important. God's laws for Israel repeatedly emphasized the need to be considerate of animals. In the course of carrying out their responsibility, humans have often made pets of domestic animals, and they have even tamed wild ones and made pets of them too.
It is good to remember, though, that the Bible emphasizes the distinction between humans and animals. Humans, not animals, were made
in the image and likeness of God. And whereas animals were created with a limited life span, humans had the prospect of living on earth forever. Jesus Christ said that to enjoy "everlasting life," we must exercise faith and take in knowledge of God—things that animals are incapable of doing. Moreover, the Bible compares those unworthy of a resurrection to the
unreasoning animals that are born naturally to be caught and destroyed. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 10:14:12 AM | @poorgae:
And whereas animals were created with a limited life span, humans had the prospect of living on earth forever
Now i'm not religious at all, i've never read any version of any Bible.
Common sense tells me that your quote is full of crap though! 
Some animal species may have a shorter life span than humans, but not all of them do. I've never heard of any human-being "living on the Earth forever" during my 40 years of life.
Please back up these lies you tell with tangible proof, and maybe I might believe you. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 10:20:08 AM | quote
If you are a Christian then you would know man was charged with caring for the earth and all its animals. How humans carry out their responsibility toward animals is important. God's laws for Israel repeatedly emphasized the need to be considerate of animals. In the course of carrying out their responsibility, humans have often made pets of domestic animals, and they have even tamed wild ones and made pets of them too.
It is good to remember, though, that the Bible emphasizes the distinction between humans and animals. Humans, not animals, were made
in the image and likeness of God.
And whereas animals were created with a limited life span, humans had the prospect of living on earth forever. Jesus Christ said that to enjoy "everlasting life," we must exercise faith and take in knowledge of God—things that animals are incapable of doing. Moreover, the Bible compares those unworthy of a resurrection to the
unreasoning animals that are born naturally to be caught and destroyed.
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I said i believed in God but am not religious .
I would say the closest to believing in any official religion is that of the American Indian that teach reverence for all life including the planet earth.
I disagree with some of the christain belief that say why bother being a good sheperd of the earth because God will take us all away anyway,or God will make changes he finds neccessary
so why bother.
I think it is extremely arrogant to think we are the most important living thing on this planet and everything around us is just here for our amusement . | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 10:23:30 AM | Quote
It is good to remember, though, that the Bible emphasizes the distinction between humans and animals. Humans, not animals, were made
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The bible was written by man , nuff said | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 10:27:27 AM | Oh yeah one more thing
I dont believe in Adam and eve and that people were made.
I believe in evolution and also believe in a intelligent entanty. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 11:50:14 AM | I am not really looking for a Bible study but it would be wise to know other peoples perspective and faiths/views towards humans and animals.
Please back up these lies you tell with tangible proof, and maybe I might believe you
Huh? If you want scriptures I will gladly give those to you, but I doubt you will look them up. As far as some animals living longer then humans, that is really how long they were meant to live, humans like I stated above have the potential to live much longer and in better conditions then we live in now.
Shouldn't humans be living longer then 80 to 100 years since we have made such a dramatic change on the earth with so many discoveries? I am sure turtles and trees were not meant to outlast humans even with evolution being the pushed subject with some scientists these days. So why can't these same scientist... being so knowledgeable with the big bang theory and cave men monkeys, try to copy the animals that live longer? I am sure the turtle dna or tree dna would help us live to be 500 to 1000 years. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 11:54:59 AM |
Huh? If you want scriptures I will gladly give those to you
Bad subject...it think tangible proof would not include written word.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion about the "worth" of animals vs. humans...however, perhaps we should look at the fact that there are in fact animals who have been proven to (as companions) not only extend the quantity of some human's lives, but also to enhance the quality.
I have never been hurt by an animal who did it without reason or warning...I have been hurt by such people...so, as far as I'm concerned many animals are far more worthy of my undevoted love and affection than many people...
However, as previously stated...opinions are like a**holes | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 12:08:11 PM | | I work with men who have risked their very lives to pull pets out of fires just as they have risked their lives for humans. Conversely, my own dogs would sacrifice their lives to protect me without concern for their own safety. In my own experiences, the lines between the value of a human life and animal life have often been blurred and therefore I value both equally. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 12:10:01 PM | I would hope just like anything, we would have a guidebook to live by since many people have faith in a creator, who made the animals for us humans to enjoy. Just look at most items that are purchased and you will see a guidebook in the same box. Makes real sense for humans to have one but many rarely use it unfortunately.
As far as choosing who to save I would hope firemen know to save people first since they pay them taxes but animals fail to do so. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 12:18:33 PM | | "a creator who made the animals for us humans to enjoy". What a sick and twisted thought. If that was really the intention of a god....he would never be my god. No wonder buddhist philosophy is the world's fastest growing religion. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2005 3:28:51 PM | The pets think so! I have yet to have one that didn't. One pet I had thought that ALL people should be subservient to him (and most of the people he met were).
I have observed that in some cases with single people in their 30's, a pet may be a substitute for a child and the need to care for something - because they haven't been able to find the right person to have a family with. [Fact, fallacy, or somewhere inbetween, I don't know. Perhaps this thread will answer that.] | |
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