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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 451 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 4:46:06 PM | | Grunts and drags knuckles to toilet to read hunting for woman bible . Grunt grunt | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 5:25:19 PM | | It's the alpha male thing, be in charge of your emotions and women will find you a challenge and come on....what woman doesn't love a challenge. It's the same with all animals. Show me you're the man, I'm you're woman.Very few women really want the wimp, wimps get the women that have realized, and or, come to grips, that for whatever reason ,they cant land the big fish. It" a pecking order, it ensures there is someone for everyone. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 6:12:06 PM | | Im a nice guy and guess what? I got the girl :) Im also very much in charge of myself and independent, but I like to keep my lady happy. score a point for the nice guys. Im one of those that didnt finish last so.... nyah nyah ! hope for the male gender yet | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 7:18:16 PM | sddude;
At least you have picked the perfect spot to read that bible...lol
could you flush the bible also | |
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vp2
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Joined: 8/29/2005
Msg: 456 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 8:04:24 PM | golfnut,
does being nice make someone a wimp? Nightj1986, you're not the only nice guy who's gotten the girl, but congrats to you anyways.
I think being yourself is better than trying to be the "nice guy" or "bad boy"
actually, I just remember what a buddy of mine said. "Nice guys get girls, just ask all 5 of my girlfriends." | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 8:46:43 PM | To all the guys who actually use David deangelo's lines....consider this....
many ladies are aware....in a previous thread some even pointed out how they rolled their eyes when their dates used his lines verbatim......these silly gooses actually ruined whatever chances they had by using Angelo's "cocky comedy".....c-o-c-k & bull if you ask me....
It is impossible to maintain a facade over extended periods........
The story of "Zumbach suit" illustrates ....
Zumbach was a famous tailor,but his suits were so expensive that they were only within the reach of they wealthy.
one day David, a person of average means resolved to get a Zumbach suit, he saved for months & months and when the day came ...he knocked on Zumbach's door and announced that he would like to be measured for a suit....after 2 weeks he got a call to come in for a fitting.........as helooked in the mirror he was dismayed that the right pocket was a little higher than the left.....nonsense Zumbach said, just raise your right shoulder.....there perfect..but when he did thatthe left collar was out of place......just bend your neck to the right.....after contorting his body in multiple grotesque poses it finally seemed to fit.....
holding that pose he painfully walked to the bus stop.....an elderly gentleman ...asked
Is that a Zumbach suit ? why yes , David replied proudly...how did you know ?
To which the old man replied, Only a fine tailor like Zumbach could fit a cripple like you. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 8:59:07 PM | I dont think nice has anything to do with it. BORING does. I'm nice, very nice, but I'm also fun and exciting.
none of my problems with women ever had to do with me being nice. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 9:03:52 PM | ^^^ what you obviously realize that these self-proclaimed nice guys don't is that if any particular women folk aren't interested in you at any given time, it isn't because you're nice, but because of some other - not controlable by you - reason that they may or may not share with you.
I wish the guys who start these threads over and over picked up on this fact. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 11:27:47 PM | ulalume
i tend to agree with you, but only a select few get it. | |
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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 461 | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/27/2005 11:55:45 PM | somehow i dont doubt that SDDUDE,
you complain about not meeting a girl because of your height,looks etc
You know the guy i met recently is only 5'11 and hes not worried about me being taller
theres another guy on here , I hope i dont embarass him, his profile name is NPBT, and this guy is cool, and hes 5'6" and if i was down in his neck of the woods I would of met him hands down, nice guy,has a edge, and very confident remember that word CONFIDENT | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 12:27:27 AM | easy on SDDUDE there Pinkfizz.......he is not like what you infer from the last few posts....
I have seen many of his posts before and he comes across as a warm and caring person. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 12:39:54 AM | Carribeanking
Maybe i havent read the posts youve read CK?because the post ive read from your friend is a different guy your describing? Do you think im breaking his balls? | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 7:42:58 AM | | Nice is a word being used to describe someone. Now if I would describe someone I would describe better attributes besides being nice. But then again, being a nice guy takes much effort so if a woman doesn't observe that fact it is her own darn fault. Can I say darn? :) | |
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jamt
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Joined: 8/24/2005
Msg: 466 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 7:51:37 AM | Hmm....you know, I think the original poster is wrong.
I'm a nice guy, or so I'm told. I tend to open the door, hold the chair, etc. I write poetry, read alot and and do enjoy just talking and spending time with the woman I'm with. I don't call her "mah ho, mah ****, mah..." anything else. I treat her with respect, consideration and as an equal. I speak in polite, respectful ways.
I have noticed that women tend to go for the guys that do treat them badly...for awhile. Then they smarted up and find a fellow that's going ot treat them decently. Just takes time. Like the time it takes for us guys to actually get good in bed. LOL.
The bottom line is this. Nice guys do wind up with decent women. But, it takes time. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 8:20:29 AM | I think what women want are men who are manly, not necessarily bad. Even if they think they want someone sensitive and gentle, they instinctively get aroused by men who take charge, are confident, and are kind, but manly. Any woman who's attracted to "bad boys" and get turned on by abuse or disrespect should be pittied, because that shows imaturity, at best, or psychological problems. If you are a woman who like to be treated like crap, then you should talk to Dr. Phil about it.
Cliff | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 8:52:34 AM | carribeanking7:
To all the guys who actually use David deangelo's lines....consider this....
many ladies are aware....in a previous thread some even pointed out how they rolled their eyes when their dates used his lines verbatim......these silly gooses actually ruined whatever chances they had by using Angelo's "cocky comedy".....c-o-c-k & bull if you ask me....
I haven't purchased any of DeAngelo's stuff, so I don't know what kind of "lines" he recommends. His stuff which I read actually recommended not using lines, just being confident and practice your dating schtick. Find what works for you and stick with it.
DeAngelo also assumes that a gorgeous woman is perpetually weeding out her minions of admirers. He assumes that most gorgeous women are constantly receiving kiss-ass lines and behavior, which is probably true. He recommends that to get this woman's attention, you have to stand out from the crowd and do something different. That's what "cocky comedy" is all about. Your confident, funny, and stand out from the others. It makes sense, but personally I just can't turn this quality on 24/7 and I can't feel that way about all women who could be potential partners. If you think about it, you are naturally this way in a relationship that is working well for both partners. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 10:23:25 AM | my take on sddude;
This is strictly an opinion, based on what he has said. (Key word, opinion, don’t sue me, I'm not a professional)
I think dude has now entered the twilight zone of dating; he’s pulled in two directions. He claims being nice does not work.
However, he has proof that it does work. He was once a “nice” guy, and he got the girl, he married her. Be honest, do you think she would be attracted to the bada$$ man you are today, or the guy she married?
Now, you are frustrated in your dating life, so you have decided to use the bad a$$ approach.
How’s it working for you?
Your postings are confusing, because in one, you claim you get all these offers constantly in the real world, just not on line. Another posting you talk about all the rejection on line.
If you were so busy with all these offers, and the bada$$ front is working so well, why would it bother you if you were rejected on line?
Me thinks the man doth protest too much.
Nice always works, you just have to connect with the right one.
Dude, from reading your postings, you are confused, and need a guide out of the twilight zone of dating.
I suggest therapy..lol
I would describe my friends, male/female as, “nice, decent, good people”. It means they are respectful, thoughtful, courteous, and considerate towards others, it does not mean they are the reincarnation of Mother Theresa, Gandhi, or the next Dali Lama.
Nice and decent are positive adjectives, not negative.
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 10:44:41 AM | He assumes that most gorgeous women are constantly receiving kiss-ass lines and behavior, which is probably true. He recommends that to get this woman's attention, you have to stand out from the crowd and do something different. That's what "cocky comedy" is all about. Your confident, funny, and stand out from the others.
here i go again with a DeAngelo comment....ready aim fire!!
I have not read his books, but I've read several of his articles on line.
Most women can recognize a kiss ass line, unless they are been living under a rock, and you are right, kiss ass lines do not work, we have already heard them over and over again. They are a turn off.
Nothing wrong with**** and funny. I've read some of the things DeAngelo claims he has said to women, I'd describe it as rude, not**** or funny.
DeAngelo has an explaination as to why some women do not fall for the DeAngelo approach:
"I've found that the only women who don't respond well to it are women who are uptight, women who aren't at all interested, or overly shy women who are intimidated (in which case you can usually just tone it down and have fun with them too"
I can partially agree with his statement.. AREN'T AT ALL INTERESTED!!
give me a shovel. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 10:47:13 AM |  I believe I'm beginning to bond with Mr. DeAngelo lol | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 11:06:02 AM | | This thread is getting really ridiculous. The women posting late are a riot. I really doubt they think all these guys complaining are wanting to become "bad." Obviously, you can't be merely a jerk 100% of the time. The confidence and attitude is key but the 'eager to please or impress' part of nice guys will not work. Girls/women today don't appreciate this kind of thing unless the guy is a male model. The girls bashing these whiners and complainers just get their socks off trying to sound pretentious and moral. They are part of the guilty women going for the 'wrong guy.' It's an opportunity to sound off and criticize for them. Remember guys, pay attention to a girl's actions and behavior not words and posts/emails. You don't need to read some internet site by any of the so-called 'studs' or pay any money to realize common sense. | |
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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 473 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 11:06:54 AM | I am not worried at all about a girls height it is they , they tell it to my face , really , I do not care if they are a foot taller or a foot shorter , it does not matter to me . I suspect most guys do not care either .
Most women here seem to think that women commit no sin , they are almost the perfect picture of sugar and spice and everything nice , all the fault is the man's fault , I do not know about that deangelo's stuff but women here probably assume that .
I just live by experience unlike you people , only comment and no real solutions are given , all say be myself without knowing how I really am like other guys , maybe being myself, the way I am is the wrong way ? Some women have told me here that the things I have said here show that I am a pushover and a doormat and to change that , what if that is part of me ?
To be a person that only gives ? In my experience to give is happiness initially but later it turns sad for me because I find out, it is just usage , Most , women I have met ARE users , THAT is my experience I meet alot of women everywhere everyplace you can imagine I even live with two of them that I have helped out untill it hurts , I know I am being used .
If I take out one of those women I help so much, out, maybe to a dance or something most of the time they decline the dance and they dance with others , I feel like I am not worth anything , like as if I am inferior to other guys , I am only their superhero when I help them in a very serious situation .
I am sure it is me , my fault, Pink you agree and say the same you even kind of savor it , no women is at fault ,it is little losers fault , you may think mockingly , but you would not say the same thing if you lived near me an I saved you from something , but your actions would say otherwise , it happens so much that I think all women are like that , like 1% may not be that way .
I know I am doing it all wrong , no one ever answered my question on how not to be every women I meet, her best friend, confidant, their hero , the guy she looks for when she has a problem .
Women here either do not beleive or do not understand it at all , it seems to you that that is the way a guy should be to women but I honestly find that it does not work to do this and be this way , that is me , I am the kind of guy that takes a homeless girl in and turns her into a successful model..... then they leave even if they know I love them, never hear from them again , it has happened before , over and over , different outcomes and situations .
I guess I am one of the lame guys ALL women use while thinking they are too good for me . Yes I am generalizing because that is my experience, yes I get girls and alot of them but not the way you think , it is very very lonely . | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 11:15:47 AM | You can me nice and stern at the same time.
Morals make for a great strength.
But, really the truth is, that nomatter what someone has decided to look for,
they can fall for someone that is the complete oppisite.
Being a nice guy or not only gives as a source for an imidiate impression.
It this day and age we have all consumed so much media "Televison, Movies"
that me all have adapted the ability to be what someone needs you to be.
Or be what they are looking for. Which Is Indeed a mistake, but happens
without us knowing it all the time. Even right here in this forum. In fact
most of the time in forums people are basicaly fine tuning those skills.
The sad thing is that we get used to the masks and forget what we are.
Its funny to watch the alpha males fight over a female. Sometimes
they even pose as friends so that neither one seem insecure or hatefull.
All for the benifit of the females whitness. In fact its most sad when one
wins and the other still fights from the side lines after the fact.
Is all of that worth it? The competition for something you shouldn't have
to fight that way for. Even if it just one guy and one girl in the picture
its still a competition. Trying to compete against someones standards.
I think proving you are what you apear to be is far more important.
And not being anything but yourself.
Mr. Buff after three weeks of dating his catch ends up to be nothing
but a big bratty baby. And Mr. Compassion ends up being a real ***hole.
Maybe all they cared about for that three weeks is getting a
swallen testical cure. Some people just can't bring themselve to
rub one out. | |
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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 475 | |
| Stop being a NICE guy
Posted: 10/28/2005 11:37:27 AM | Well Katherine,
do not be confused think logically of what I said , what it boils down to it is that I hook them being the badboy very easily , being nice keeps them away when I want to start initial contact . When I get to know them a little the same day and they try things I tell them I am celibate , then it evolves that they tell me everything about themselves for some reason women choose me to be their confessor , we talk hours then it falls apart I become super nice , then they warm up to me and say I am incredible like they have known me all their life and already love me like a brother , like a bestfriend and then the relationship goes from there , I help them out with everything , they say they appreciate it and it evolves into one of the many friendships that I have , they only claim I can be their freinds and never could even steal a kiss from them , it even grosses them out if I try to kiss them , they say iot is like kissing their brother .
Do you understand now , is that weird to you ? I have to share the bed with two women that I have to see like a sister , they are afraid of the other bedroom for some reason . afraid to be alone they say there are ghosts in the house . | |
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