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JHD198
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/15/2005 5:33:42 PM | All of this nonsense about what does and what does not "attract" a woman to a man is ridiculous. "Attraction" is in itself a passive activity, passive activity in itself is usually thought to be feminine in nature. Now what is usually thought to be masculine activities - athletic, active, go getter, chivalry, rambunctiousness. Now a man no matter how ugly, good looking, buff, scrawny, nice, not so nice, prickish, boorish, warty, if he sees a good looking woman in his eyes, he is going to go after that woman or is thinking about it or is scheming of ways to do it. Maybe in our society, where a man pursues a woman it is not considered to be "nice".
Maybe I am wrong and there is always Leap Year when the women can pursue the "attractive" man. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/15/2005 5:44:55 PM | | Do you have any current pictures Toad4U, those seem kind of out dated don't you think? | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/15/2005 6:37:56 PM |
*swoon* montreal men are soooo hot sigh :)
If he knows what's good for him.. He'll message ya soon! Right Herv? | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/15/2005 8:44:02 PM | Hey to each their own, all I was trying to do is get people to understand the difference between a nice guy and a needy guy. What I got from jayjay is that he is confusing a nice guy with a needy guy. I never intended my posts to be flames. I may not agree with what people say and I have a right to voice my opinion, I also understand and accept the fact that someone has the right to differ from mine and voice it. But again, this thread should be called Stop being a NEEDY guy.
Also people should really stop making generalizations and stereotypes while trying to speak for everyone. How does anyone know what everyone wants. Some people love the bad boys and some like the nice one. There are even people who want and like a needy person. No matter what kind of person you are you can always find someone that's right for you. You may just have to look a little harder than others. Just understand that everything is nothing more than a matter of opinion. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 12:53:47 AM | Women do NOT want "nice guys",this is a fact... and what I mean by nice guys are the guys who are overly sensitive,guys who listen to slow sad music. the guys who let the girl make the decisions/ and wear tha pants, the guy who tells her he loves her after hardly knowing her, the guy who gives her compliments and so forth. Whatever you do don't ever act like you really like her, NEVER ever tell her how you feel about her and NEVER tell her she is beautiful.(NEVER) She will take advantage of your niceness as a form of "weakness" to her because she knows inside that she can now control you..... She knows she has a grip on you since you like her so much and you will be puddy in a womens hands if you are like this. Make sure you don't go out and spend $200 on a date and don't go out buying her a ton of presents either....
Well I can tell you, thats exactly what i found and what i wanted and I am not a control freak either or want presents or money or him to spend a ton of cash on me either. I know what it is like to be controlled and it is not fun. My guy tells me I am beautiful every day and he tells me he loves me all the time he is super affectionate and super nice, he is the type of guy who would take the shirt off his back and give it to you if you needed it more than he does. Personally I really like that type of guy but just because i am dating someone like that doesn't mean all of us woman are gold digging control freaks who like to keep you on a tight leash! Ever think the reason you are single now is because you stopped being the nice guy and turned into a total jack a**? | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 1:52:50 AM | As much as I hate to agree, I agree. I want someone as confident and independent as I am...and when someone is too 'nice' he is also sometimes too clingy...or too this or that. Maybe the word 'nice' is innapropriately mistaken for boring...clingy...wimpy...etc? I lose interest in someone who is just too nice. I don't need a manservant because I can do anything and everything for myself...I just want the right guy with me to enjoy life with. I want a guy to be himself...so I can be myself. askmen.com is for the guys who need some info on dating and upping women's interest levels. Why am I reading that site?? To know about the games men play on women!!!!
Linda
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 1:57:51 AM | I want an independent NICE GUY! Just not tooooo nice...He has to be genuine... | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 2:07:09 AM | Thanks tickled,
I've never had a woman put 'nice guy' in that context before. I'm NOT nice afterall LOL
But it seem like you're almost describing somebody who is neccessariyly wupped.
Maybe women need to explain or define the 'nice guy' in a furum. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 2:35:20 AM | Nice Guy
An extinct sort of male human characterized by kindness and caring. Some claim to have seen or even met a nice guy... but experts agree that they died out many years ago.Too bad there aren't any running around today
"A man never begins to know the depth of his own evil until he first aspires to be good." | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 2:43:21 AM | Nice guys are all around, you just have have to seek with you heart and don't try to conform them to how you would "like" them to be.
Have an open mind and you will find a nice guy and a nice girl. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 3:04:37 AM | "A man never begins to know the depth of his own evil until he first aspires to be good."
I used to have those late weekend benders staring down a toilet - I know EXACTLY what that quote means. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 3:12:28 AM | My gf is waaaay to nice. I wouldn't trade her for anything.
Any effort I put in seem's half-ass'd but yet she show's her appreciation.
But I guess what keeps me around is that I'm NICE.
After thinking it over, I think most posters are confused with the word nice. Some think WIMPS are nice, but their not - their just WIMPS. Some think BAD is nice - but their incarcerated most of the time. Nice is HONEST and a STRAIGHTUP guy....nothing FAKE. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 3:17:17 AM | I think a combination of nasty and nice is good.
A guy that is assertive and confident enough to let you know he thinks you're hot and sexy and attractive and that he wants you so bad etc and get in my bed quick etc ...
but is wining and dining you and treating you nice while he's saying it.
but for this to work, you have to know that he really does like you. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 6:41:23 AM | Adam8682......you answered your on question......
"A man never begins to know the depth of his own evil until he first aspires to be good."
I used to have those late weekend benders staring down a toilet - I know EXACTLY what that quote means.
Right there with ya brotha | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 6:53:13 AM | rose...An extinct sort of male human characterized by kindness and caring...
again you have labeled me a dinasaur, lol | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 6:57:27 AM | OK l am not a nice guy, but I am a kind and caring person, I am considerate of others and there welfare, but at the same time, I can say that I am not needy, I am able to communicate my desires, and needs without whining, I am assertive, but not agressive. I hand out compliments because I desire to do so, not because I want to fuke a woman. I also give out compliments to men as well. this is who I am, I stand up for what I want from life and others, I am open to listen to your point of view, because after all who is to say that I am right, or you are wrong? If you reject me, does this mean that I am a loser? NOT! Does this mean that I must treat you badly, or no longer find you interesting? or call you a loser? NOT We are all different, in our own, it is our ability to bridge the gulf between each other, and find concensus as human beings. Lose the chip on your shoulder, be who you are, take a close look in the mirror at the person that you are each day, and reflect upon how you can be a better person, not a nice guy, but a better guy, not a chump full of anger, or a needy man wanting to be validated by a woman, Be your own caretaker, independent, confident, assured. But also be secure that you can be kind and caring, without allowing others to run to run you over. I may not give you what you want, but I will give you what you need, Respect, consideration, honesty, and trust, once I have determined that you are worth trusting. Warren | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 7:00:03 AM |
I may not give you what you want, but I will give you what you need, Respect, consideration, honesty, and trust, once I have determined that you are worth trusting.
Hmm. You had me right up until this. | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 11:08:00 AM | sctrrdr69 your really messing with that stereotype..you know the hairy biker bad/boy type dude?.. your no Dino and you are a genuinely nice guy ...!
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 11:38:38 AM | OK here is a thought. If you are just looking for sex and seeing how many women you can score, I am sure the bad boy image is wonderful for what you are looking for.
If you are ready to settle down and have a family and so on. The bad boy image is not going to work for you to well. Sure women are attracked to the "bad boy" but when it comes right down to it we want a nice man someone that is going to appriciate us as women and do the little things to make us happy. Tell us that we look pretty or help out doing the dishes little things like that. We don't want the needy guys that want us to be there mothers. We still want the "protector" type too.  | |
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| Stop being a NICE guy Posted: 10/16/2005 11:47:34 AM | BAD BOY, another ellusive term. There's women who like the bad boy's that are incarcerated. There's the I-OWN-A-HOG-SO-I-AM-BAD next door neighbour of mine who thinks he's bad but I piss him off at the drop of a hat just so I can see him react like a little boy. My gf watches me shaking her head as I come up the drive-way - "could you leave him alone!" LOL
BAD/Good - is attitude. BAD boy's cry at night. That's not a sign of strength.
So, if you like bad...all power to you.
Just one thing though, if you don't want your badboy to cry at night, tell him to get a f/cking exhaust for his bike or I'm gonna keep knocking over your big mans garbage can with my car....I pick up trash for no one. heheheh | |
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