| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 8:52:24 PM | Oh, puuuuleeeeeeeeeeeze. Spare me. So, hottie, by using this "logic," you're saying that men don't want money; they only want sex, and that women don't want sex; they only want money. Moreover, did you know that women make their OWN money? Yes, they do! No, I'm not kidding! Really! They're not out to get your last dime. I swear.
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what i did NOT say is that men don't want money, only sex. fyi I certainly do know that women make their own money. what i did say was an oversimplification and i would add an over-gerneralization as well, but i do believe it is based on science and reality and i would never spare anyone (especially you) of the finer points. if you gave it enough thought, and were educated enough about evolution over the past 2 million years and biology, then maybe you would agree that at the crux of mate selection is the survival of offspring.
yes some women have substantial incomes and/or wealth but the majority of the people in the united states could use some more economic help especially if they are raising a child. tuition is a killer and it takes about 20 or more years to properly raise human being. i dont really care if you believe me , but if you dont, i hope that you marry a dirt poor homeless nice guy and live a happily ever after life. .. into the sunset. on your income.
it doesn't take all the $$$ in the world to live and have children but unless you live in an uncivilized area, you will need enough. what exactly is a enough tender? i can't but a number on it. maybe you could say poverty line. i think that might be a bit low.
also, i'm sick of all the women posting saying i dont do that! not me! never! not in my back yard...etc. it's not that i dont believe you, b/c i do believe that everyone said they dont ask those questions up front. i think it is rude to ask those questions in a manner that flagrantly shows your movtives. although they aren't spoken the answers to those questions is ultimately verrrry important and i would think it nieve if anyone wasn't in part ineterested. so go ahead and say i dont ask that and i think you will find that response is about as common as someone having 10 fingers. to be clear, women (in general) want to know money aka survival, even if they dont ask.
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 9:02:31 PM | Do you work ? -- but how much do you make
Do you drive ? - what type of car and is it paid for
Do you live on your own ? rent/own - how much
Where do you shop ? spending habits
How often can you afford to go out - spending cash
I've never asked anyone these. The closest I have come is asking "What do you do?". Asking someone how much they make and the other questions quoted is crass. Anyone who asks you those, doesn't deserve a moment's notice. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 9:06:17 PM | "Do you work ? -- but how much do you make
Do you drive ? - what type of car and is it paid for
Do you live on your own ? rent/own - how much
Where do you shop ? spending habits
How often can you afford to go out - spending cash
I've never asked these questions.... maybe those people that contacted you wanted to know if you can support them ..lol | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 9:55:54 PM | I think these questions will be asked sometime into the relationship, whether it be directly or indirectly. But as described by the OP, it's way too early. Never got asked the last two questions though.
Posted By: ksue44 on 10/19/2005 8:20:56 PM
Actually, I see this no different than a man asking a woman what she weighs or what her measurements are.
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 10:15:51 PM | Naw, I don’t agree with that assessment.
Do you work?
Do you drive?
These are the types of standard questions I would expect anyone to ask and hope people would not be offended if I asked. I mean for someone my age I don’t think a car and a job is asking too much.
Where do you shop?
This could really go either way. I have been asked this before but always assumed it was more to do with taste in clothes rather than how much they cost. Of course that being said I would answer "Value Village" either.
How often can you afford to go out?
Who the hell asks if you can "Afford" to go out a lot... That’s a new one to me lol. I agree with this one it’s more like “How much do you make and how often can I expect you to pay.”
I have seen this type of posting many times, WTF? Where do people get the idea that all women are broke deadbeats just out to get "all the men’s money"? Every girl I have dated has not needed or expected me to pay all the time? I’m pretty sure there ARE a lot of women with jobs these days.
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 10:43:46 PM | I would never even consider asking such a question... I've found out that "things" don't make me happy~~Might make life more comfortable and enjoyable at times, but it won't make you happy in the long run...
As a "tree hugger" friend of mine in Oregon once said, "Makes you wanna shed a tear for mankind, but it seems we all have to buy our way out of Babylon">>>> | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/19/2005 11:16:42 PM | To answer your question why:
All throughout history women have been bought and sold....for cash, crops, farm animals or beasts...
Even today, white slavery deals with females in terms of money...
Therefore it is ingrain in them, since they know to have a value, monetary or otherwise,to be preocupied with how much people around them are worth...
Get ready for the disclaimers comming forth.....not me...I never....  | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 12:56:04 AM | ^^ lol ok sure,
i know the ONLY reason id ask if the dude i was on a date with worked is becuase i dont want to be looking after anyone, i dont mind doing nice things but im not your mother nor do i intend to be, so i like to know in advance. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 3:34:34 AM | | I see some women on here saying that the reason they would ask how much a guy makes is because they don't want to have to support him later. But at the same time this may also tell the guy that she is looking for a free ride. Personally, I have never been asked this question and if asked I would tell her it was none of her business. She can ask about my job etc but my bank account and assets are noone's business but mine. Anyway, if a woman can't recognise whether a person is capable of supporting a good family after a few dates, she isn't overly perceptive. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 4:01:49 AM | searchnfind said:
I will ask a few money questions but not because I am looking to hit the jack pot (and I do not ask how much they make-that is rude). I only ask because I would like to be with someone who is "financially responsible". That doesn't mean "wealthy" - just responsible with what they do make. I can financially support myself and I expect my man to do the same! Simple as that.
If I had a dollar for every time some guy whined about this...I wouldn't have to work for a living! 
What we really should ask back is: So guys, do you think it's fair for you to expect a woman to be supporting herself and not be a "gold digger" yet she shouldn't expect the same from you? How is she supposed to find out if you are going to be a "gold digger" if she doesn't find out the simple facts of whether you work for a living and if you do, can you support yourself? Maybe you should think about it that way--we're just trying to make sure you aren't just looking to move out of your parents' basement and into our place! | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 4:24:55 AM | I think asking someone how much money they make is tacky no matter who it is.
evolution bla bla bla
Women don't "need" men to take care of them anymore, not in the western world anyway. It's acceptable for women to work now, Leave it to Beaver is passe.
I won't ask a man I'm dating how much he's worth or what his salary is but, I will try and find out if he's in debt! Sorry but I just don't go for irresponsible. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 5:26:51 AM | I was thinking about this driving to work.
American Women, or most women in general are raised to believe:
Find a winner, an educated man, a provider, money maker, stable, good family and good back ground, good social skills, and popular person, romantic, spontaneous, caring, etc.
The women that do this usually find their husband, and keep a hold of him.
The other women that go for something else, are the "losers" in life.
They didn't find Mr. Right, or the Mr. Right they found was flawed.
They tried to put their career as a priority-power trip-
They fell for a convicted felon- (bad up bringing)
They were just "shy", or had some other behavior disorder.
..............and people like me, that don't have a Bachelors, Masters or Doctor's degree, make less than 30k per year, and have poor social skills, social anxiety, depression, negative attitude, weren't MR. Popular in high school, or in a fraternity, had broken home up bringing, -in other words a "pathetic looser", on this sight trying to find other screw ups, to try to fill the lonely void in their lives.
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 6:02:31 AM | No hating here
As it's a woman right to make sure the guy will provide for her in letting her choose if she will talk/meet/date the guy.
Sure I tend to get the shallow women who ask those questions and it's my choice to answer them or not, but I know if I don't then I know she won't talk to me.
In my line of work it sounds so cheesy yet if they will say something like " well you MUST have another job of some sort" or they say " well that can't make ends meet "
Funny how they assume. I've been doing this for 14 years, and been able to buy a house, car, food, and a puter lol | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 6:16:05 AM | @jus4funvw
of course all the men on these sites are "pathetic losers" and all the women are total screw-ups. Don't ya just love generalizations?
O.T. I guess some people just are ruled by the almighty dollar. The trick is heading them off at the pass. When they ask those questions...why not try asking your own politically incorrect questions? | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 6:51:31 AM | Squirrly
Shhh -- I just found out if I do another 15-20 auctions on Ebay I might have enough money to talk to one girl lol
Time to go into the personal collection and pull out the 1/1 Gretzky I have lol | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 7:54:56 AM |
Do you work ? -- but how much do you make
Do you drive ? - what type of car and is it paid for
Do you live on your own ? rent/own - how much
Where do you shop ? spending habits
How often can you afford to go out - spending cash
Here's valid reasons for asking anyone these types of questions - male or female. And I have been asked all of these kinds of questions too.
Do you work? Change to - what do you do for a living or profession?
Reasons for asking - conversation starter, common interests or education levels.
Do you drive? I live in the suburbs sometimes I meet people from the city. I ask if they drive so we can find a convenient place to meet. I have also asked what kind of car they drive on a date, because I like cars and some men tend to like talking about them, I don't ask so I can figure out their bank balance or net worth.
Do you live on your own? Sometimes this is part of a conversation when for instance you ask what area/town they live in and then they tend to tell you they have an apartment or a house in that area. Which usually leads into the topic of on their own, roomies, family, etc. So it's not that you even have to ask that it usually comes up on its own.
Where do you shop? Women don't need to ask this, we can usually determine where they shop by their personal style. I've never asked this question to find out spending habits. This can usually be figured out within a few dates. Also if the guy is wearing gucci sunglasses and versace shoes, that's usually a dead give away.
How often can you afford to go out? Change to - Do you like to go out on the weekends or would you consider yourself more of a homebody? Or how do you like to spend your free time?
I ask this so I can determine what kind of lifestyle they like, not if they can afford it or not.
Another point I want to make here is that even if they do own a home on their own, they drive a fancy car, wear expensive brand names and go out every night for dinners in restaurants. It doesn't mean squat because they could be really mortgage poor, live on credit and in serious debt. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 10/20/2005 8:05:02 AM |
It doesn't mean squat because they could be really mortgage poor, live on credit and in serious debt.
And you hear this more often now. I knew one girl who picked a guy over me, no big deal, but she also lost $2500 paying his bills as he didn't have money to keep the car on the road and was short for rent.
Being everything you can be is nice, but if you can't afford gas, why even bother.
One thing I did with my car when I bought it, they asked me if I wanted a license plate cover or one of those emblems. I took the license plate cover and when I got home it was the first thing I removed from the car.
I don't care where I got the car but at least I know and others know that it's not leased lol
Under contract during the lease of a car you CANNOT remove the advertising for the car, which explains why so many BMWs and Benz have them lol | |
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