| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/27/2008 6:22:19 PM | Ok, But, why do men adbvertise how much they earn..
I see in profiles lots state how much they earn, as if inviting questions such as these stated here.. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/27/2008 7:44:41 PM | I've never asked those questions - how crass!
But I do like to know what the man does for a living -- I usually ask that question during the course of conversation to women I've just met too -- it's more about understanding a facet of their lives than to pas judgment. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 6:40:34 AM | Ok, But, why do men adbvertise how much they earn..
I see in profiles lots state how much they earn, as if inviting questions such as these stated here..
Because it is a self-feeding reality.
Men in general know that money and income are a reality that women look at with every potential mate. They have friends who have been dumped time and again by a woman because that man lost his job or could not afford to buy something she thinks "they" should have. I think sometimes with women the old judgmental voice takes over on this particular topic, even when they don't realize how engrained it is in them.
So by virtue of what women say they want some men will try to cheat the process by telling everyone how much money they have, how expensive a car they own, how many rich friends they have, etc. Yeah it's shallow. But just go read some of the female profiles on this site and others and see how many women put "must have a job" or similiar shallow requirements in their requests list. Men in general are not stupid. They are just reacting to observed female behavior. The practice feeds the belief, and you have a vicious cycle of behavior.
I am glad to hear you chose not to let it effect you or how you think. In younger women it is almost a epidemic of thinking.
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 7:30:14 AM |
Men in general know that money and income are a reality that women look at with every potential mate.
Generalization. If this was the case why would 33% of wives be earning all the money or out earning their husbands in a marriage? Men also care about income. No smart guy will marry someone significantly poorer than him(alimony would be through the roof). Does it really matter? The rich marry the rich for the most part. Poor marry the poor.
But I read of this guy who when he asked out women he happened to lie and say his ex wife took him for millions but he still had a few millions left. Got laid by every woman who he tried this on. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 7:56:36 AM | | Do women actually ask these questions? OMG, I thought dating was supposed to be fun! I hope you guys don't even give these types of women the time of day. Real women do notice things, however, like whether you pick up the tab if you invite them out on a date, and whether or not you're a cheap tipper. But that's more about character and not about how much money you make. You could take them to McDonalds for that matter. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 8:04:42 AM | I want to add that if a woman is asking specific questions like this, it is a red flag, even if you have the income she desires. I don't believe a woman is truly happy who cannot support herself and earn her own income. I've been tempted into the "guilded cage" a few times with wealthy men. I even lived with one once who supported me. Ultimately, it was a way for me to run away from finding my own career and my own value in society. Ultimately, the relationship did not work out, and I was partially to blame in becoming financially dependent on him. The other thing about a woman demanding a certain income from a man is that she is accustomed to living a certain lifestyle. What if the wealthy man suddenly lost his income?
To me, the amount of money a guy makes is much less important than his having basic character. This includes being generous (even if he is poor), stable (emotionally and financially), and honest. Who cares about the dollar amounts? If y0u love someone, you can be happy with a picnic in the park. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 8:08:06 AM |
This includes being generous (even if he is poor), stable (emotionally and financially), and honest
Aren't those qualities applicable for women? Just wondering. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 8:19:15 AM | | (In response to John Duke). Absolutely. I feel I have those same character traits. However, just as there are some women who are looking for a sugar daddy, there are some men also looking for a trophy wife. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 11:09:43 AM | It's instinct dude!
No matter how successful a woman is whether it's financial, social ect...
She has to know that you can and will provide if needed. Most woman may say that’s B.S but that’s only because some girls think that the mere thought of that being true , means they are inferior. WHICH COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
It's instinct...just has men are naturally drawn to woman with a nice shape.. Its our instinct to seek out a partner that is healthy and fertile....and that's how our species has learned to recognize those traits. We don’t feed our families by hunting moose and we don't shelter them by finding a good cave, anymore. We buy these things...which cost money. So, why wouldn't a woman associate your abilities to provide, with what you drive and how you dress??
Asking what you make isn't cool though! A smart girl can figure out how well you do by simply paying attention:) | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 1:39:00 PM | i'm one of the more generous guys around in giving my TIME to people, but as far as tips goes, i hate the tipping system - it does not make sense and that says much about my character in that i will not tolerate inaneness. to women that would mean cheap. go ask a generous guy according to your notion if he'll remove trees for free, do your plumbing for free, dig ditches for free, cook for free, research for free, tutor for free etc.
why can't women drop the tipping scrutinization? to tip is to show how brainless a person is. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 5:43:13 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have to disagree with this. Most "tipped" employees make less than minimum wage, and the only reason their employers can get away with that is BECAUSE they DO routinely receive tips from their customers, which supplement their hourly wage. To not tip one of these hard-working people is tantamount to saying "what you do is not worthwhile enough for you to receive minimum wage". I applaud you for volunteering your time to do things for other people....but that does not entitle you to be stingy with the waitress (or whomever) that just gave you exceptional service. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 8:46:31 PM | sorry, and i won't go into all the information i accumulated of persons making $15 to $25 per hour as a result of tips WHILE hard-working people make 1/3 to 1/2 as much. Try using a pick-axe on rock for 6 hours at $8 per hour and then perform a waiter job at $20 per hour that includes tips and tell me which job is easier.
the system needs to be fixed. if the servers can't provide the SIMPLE service of bringing a plate to a customer and getting paid by his/her employer appropriately (which by the way should be a small amount, there just isn't much involved) then they can find another job. Wait service is one UNNECESSARY occupation for society to function and accordingly it is one job that could be almost wholly eliminated along with many sales persons to make for an efficient economy...and don't worry about the lack of employment as I have a fix for that.
GUESS WHAT? To bring a $10 plate of food to a table versus $40 worth of food to a table might actually be the SAME quantity of food and hence the same effort, but a server would typically get 4 times more for bringing one plate to a table versus another. Can anyone logically state why this is, PER THE TRIVIAL EFFORT involved?
Go pay the IRS (Internal Revenue SERVICE), a 20% gratuity. They provide a sevice. Feel sorry for their employment as well. Tip a car mechanic 20% for their SERVICE. Pick and choose which jobs gets tips is contrived. Let's get some intelligence going on this planet.
WOMEN, BY CONTINUING ON THIS TIP STUFF, you are making certain that dollar amounts are being placed on things that do not have to occur to such an extent. This goes to the crux of what the OP is bringing up.
Try loving and living with as little money movement as possible and you'll be a heck of a lot better off. Keep the focus on $$$$$$$$$$$ and forever be lost in worldliness. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 8:57:34 PM |
Try using a pick-axe on rock for 6 hours at $8 per hour and then perform a waiter job at $20 per hour that includes tips and tell me which job is easier.
I'm sure you've swung the pick-axe, but I'll guaranteed you've never taken a night to wait tables and see what it's like. Sounds like jealousy of a profession where what you earn is proportional to how much effort you put out. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:21:58 PM | well OP, i'd turn around and ask you this instead...why is it that so many men put pics of their cars, toys, and bling instead of themselves on their profile? because like you they ASSUME that *all* women judge them by their bank accounts and financial assets.
by thinking that all women are like this you are belittling us. it may simply be that your attractions in regard to aesthetics and personality lean predominately into a demographic with a larger percentage of gold-diggers. i don't know what you like or prefer, but maybe that is a contributing factor when it comes to the experiences you've encountered.
i for one have dated guys ranging from penniless starving students to businessmen who earn in the high six figures. my own income is pretty average, like most people i have debts and bills, but the last thing i would ever want is a man to financially take care of me...so i've NEVER made a point of asking those questions, particularly in the context you describe. i might ask about work or school as a point of curiosity. i might ask whether you have a car so that i can figure on how easy it might be to meet or see eachother if there's a bit of a commute between us -- i've gone out with guys who use transit and those who drive, so this isn't an exclusion for me. but i've never asked someone where they shop or how often they can afford to go out. not every girl is as material as you seem to think...in fact, most of us aren't. | |
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| Why do women put dollar amounts on everything
Posted: 6/28/2008 10:44:11 PM | Maybe you're being a bit paranoid now, and assuming the women are asking because of financial reasons. I'll just give you some examples of where else these questions can lead:
- do you work? - What you do for a living is half your waking life, and can be a big part of your identity and tells a lot about your personality. If I went on a date with someone and didn't wind up finding out where they worked, I'd feel like I didn't get to know them. I enjoy talking about my own work, and it's very important to my life. Also, work-life balance is extremely important to me, and I want to date someone who has similar values, and doesn't kill themselves over work and spend every waking hour there.
- Do you drive? Indicates a lot about their daily life, and can even be a conversation about environmental concerns as I love it when someone thinks about their impact on the environment when they make their choices. Also indicates some logistics of dating them. Some guys love to have long drives (which I don't like). I appreciate if a guy likes to be the driver though when we do have to drive, because I hate driving. I never ask this question though, or care about cars. I think it's more that guys think women car about their cars (when in actuality very few women I know care about this).
- Do you live on your own? Also tells a lot about their lifestyle, and personality, as well as is relevant to dating them. I should ask this one sooner, as I once wound up finding out on a date that a guy still lived with his parents. He was in his thirties like I am, and it never even occurred to me that I'd still be running into that now. I have always respected independence, but above that, if you're with your parents when you're thirty-something, and they cook and clean for you too (and you're not there to take care of them), then there are issues.
Dating someone who is not a match to you in terms of being financially responsible can be frustrating and irritating. It can cause issues later. Just because a woman is interested in finding this out, doesn't mean that she intends to spend his money or be "provided for" or mooch off him, or expect to have him spend a lot on her. It can also mean she is just looking out for guys who might need to mooch off her, or spend all of her money. It's much easier to find someone in your own bracket and have similar spending habits. I once dated someone who was dirt poor, was always borrowing money from me even though I was poor and in debt, and yet always seemed to have plenty of pot and booze around.
It is very relevant to dating and having a relationship. | |
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