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Posted: 4/20/2007 11:50:22 AM | Couldn't help but to notice Bella smokes cigarettes. LOL. Not trying to start a fight but cmon!!!! Lets be real. Nicotine is one of the most powerfully addictive substances known to man and kills more people every year than all of the other drugs combined. It's makes your skin yellow and gives you dark cirles under your eyes and to a non smoker your "sweet kisses" will smell and taste like a dirty ashtray. Is that a turn on???
And btw I do smoke as well; tho I don't have any delusions about it or what a filthy habit it is. ITS A DRUG!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 4/20/2007 12:33:39 PM | | i could not agree more glassmaster. however, i do not smoke cigarettes. they smell nasty! at least when i am vaporizing something it smells good and tastes good! | |
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Posted: 4/21/2007 4:26:40 AM | I smoke it on occasion-but mostly to help get rid of the pain that the prescribed drugs DO NOT do. I only have a couple of drags.
My friend has had a transformed migraine for 3 years-MJ was the only thing that helped the pain stay away for a bit.
I only started smoking it in my late 20's-never touched it as a teenager. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2007 11:35:31 AM | It people were being honest they would select the drugs check box if they drink.
Alchohol is a drug, make no mistake. It can be a dangerous drug to many. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2007 4:03:56 PM | | I wouldn't date a guy who did drugs, in working in the Court System, I see it every day, how it can ruin lives. I want no part of it. That is illegal drugs,,,,then there is the case of legal ones, and alcohol, I would be leary of someone who took narcotic type prescriptions or drank excessively too. I take care of my body, and want someone who does the same. I want someone high on life, not dependent on various substances to cope with life. | |
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Posted: 4/23/2007 5:11:16 PM | | i have often wondered why it is that people who use drugs are labeled as trying to cope with life whereas people who have excessive hobbies that are not drug related are not trying to cope with life as well. by excessive hobbies, that is not necessarily a vice. some people are adrenaline junkies (which can often be very risky), workout junkies, workaholics, over-eating, etc. everyone has their escapes from reality and everyone enjoys moments in reality. just remember when you point a finger there are three pointing right back at you. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 6:50:28 PM | Well, I tend to agree and disagree ! excessive hobbies is not an escape from reality, it's enjoying life to it's fulliest. drugs affect people from the neck up! and controlled drugs control thier actions. Meaning they do things they wouldn't have done if not on drugs. thus a controlled Drug. I love the smell of pot, but pot kills too, If as many people smoked pot as smokers smoked cigarettes, meaning a pack a day or two. we would be having lawsuits on Big pot growing companies.
We would have more lethargic, no motivation,accident prone, paranoid people with cancer just like cig smokers but probably worse.
With saying that, I have had friends say that they switched their drug dealers from Pepe to the guy at the drive thru window (Obesity) kills more people than cigarettes.
People get killed for drugs that affect us from the head up. I don't know of anyone in jail for killing or even hurting anyone from cigarettes. but I can say that 85% of the people in prison are from drug related crimes that started out with just a joint or 2. I say one is too many and a thousand is never enough.
But what do I know? I'm just a recovering addict with over 15 years clean and sober who has helped many people stay clean and see thousands not stay clean and many die or go to jail. I started off with just a joint. | |
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Posted: 4/24/2007 6:53:38 PM | | anybody who ticks the drug box as yes - I stay away from. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 8:17:43 AM |
Meaning they do things they wouldn't have done if not on drugs. thus a controlled Drug. That isn't true. If you want your post to be taken seriously; please stick to genuine facts. I love to have intellectually stimulating conversations but throwing out inaccurate statements just to get a point across is childish and it cheapens the conversation. We would have more lethargic, no motivation,accident prone, paranoid people Once again I will stick up for "the Dark Side". I take GREAT OFFENSE at your suggestion that all pot heads are lethargic and unmotivated and clumsy. There are a few bad apples in every bunch. According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime; 29,400,000 people use marijuana in the United States. To think that all these people(a little less than 10% of the entire population) are unproductive, accident prone or just plain lazy is very closed minded. I myself smoke daily and work 50 or 60 hours a week. I know many smokers that are business owners and other types of professionals.
There are currently about a million people in prison or jail here in America and it isn't because the system gives a damn about the effects of drugs on society. If that were that case then alcohol and cigarettes would be long gone. The reason that there are so many people incarcerated is because it is a huge business that amongst other things; provides a huge labor force that works for next to nothing. And let us not forget about the corrections industry, the commissary and the construction industry as well.
If things got so far out of control for you that you joined the fellowship and that works for you; then I am very happy for you. But you should remember that not all who are "out there" are suffering the way that some might choose to portray it. In closing I would like to say that I HATE STUPID STONERS just as much as many of you tea totalers do. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 12:13:49 PM |
excessive hobbies is not an escape from reality, it's enjoying life to it's fulliest.
drug use can also be enjoying life to its fullest. i know every time i am high or drunk i am having an awesome time! i appreciate that you are recovering but not everyone that uses is unable to control the substance. i for one was also a productive member of society while smoking pot, before i retired. i graduated with honors at the usd paralegal program (which is straight "a" classwork in every class) all while smoking pot. what about a sex addict? are they the same as a drug addict who is simply trying to cope, as it is called? or are they enjoying life to the fullest? personally, i have to disagree with your statement because anyone sky-diving or bungee jumping or even surfing (which i do all the time) is trying to escape from the mundane drudgery of our consumer driven, over-worked reality. for me, even gardening is an escape from reality. like the old saying goes "toe-may-toe/toe-mah-toe". | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 6:46:32 PM | You have made some good points, both you and sancho. I stand corrected. There are exceptions to any rule.When quoting me as saying "We would have more lethargic,no motivation,accident prone,paranoid people" Was being compared to cig smokers and pot smokers. Of course if you had the same amount of pot smokers smoking a big fat cigarette sized joint (don't druul now!!!) at about 1 to 2 packs aday. Then!!! of course you might see my point.and out of those People Who smoke a big fat cigarette sized joint every day. You will have some people who are very successful. One example is musicians (like the rolling stones...not mentioning any names)who are very rich and are also successful,yet they have had a lifetime addiction to heroin.Those are the exceptions to anyones statistic.By the way You are taking a statistic from The UNITED NATIONS (UNITED NATIONS) OFFICE ON DRUGS AND CRIME??????? That's a statistic I wouldn't place my life on the line for (I wouldn't place my life on the line for any statistic ....hahahah) especially giving a statistic on AMERICANS and 29,400,000 people smoke pot in America!!!! COME ON NOW!!!!THAT ISN'T TRUE EITHER..[qoute]Meaning they do things they wouldn't have done if not on drugs. thus a controlled Drug.I wasn't stating pot as a controlled substance. Forgive me if I was referring controlled substance to pot.
I surf too, much!!!!(well, I boogie board) And love my time in the water. And maybe I'm in denial but I don't see how that even compares.My brain isn't taking in a chemical and when I get out of the water. I don't have a chemical imbalance in my brain as I would if I stopped smoking pot or any drug consistantly like that. That's why prozac and ritilin has become so popular in this country(at least in recovery based programs it is)
I do believe they did get rid of alcohol at one point (prohibition)
And I do believe that alcohol and tobacco Are Huge businesses in the United States such as your statement with The Prison System. I would even go to say that they are even bigger than the prison system and I know they have More Power to influence Politicians with lobbyist than the Prisons System.
I don't need to have a debate with you over this cause I can get statistics from hospitals and institutions and even recovery based programs that would tell you that smoking Pot is a problem in this country. such as marijuana anonymous. And I can tell you from the little children that go to those meetings that I see all the time that come from successful business owners that smoke pot all the time and their kids see this as an example and guess what.....
So, there are examples( like you pointed out that) to every rule. And I stand corrected cause you two made some good points. I can use many things as a drug(sex,gambling,food.videos,sports,anything really) I guess the key is moderation. | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 7:23:55 PM |
I surf too, much!!!!(well, I boogie board) And love my time in the water. And maybe I'm in denial but I don't see how that even compares.
you don't have that euphoric, exhilirated feeling when catching a wave? i know i do each time. additionally, when i am out there it is soothing and relaxing just because of being disconnected from the real world. none of the worries or stresses of every day life are there. when i am done it is as if all the cares of the world have been washed away and i am rejuvinated. maybe i can just make a lot of connections but i get those same feelings when drunk or high.
i have to agree that there are those that give drugs a bad name just as there are those that give it a good name. that is the reason i evaluate on a person by person basis instead of automatically judging someone's character based on a simple answer to a question on an online dating site.
moderation is generally good but sometimes i just have to let loose and party like a rock star! | |
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Posted: 4/25/2007 10:00:35 PM | | good point!, well said. Thank you!!!! | |
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Posted: 4/26/2007 1:30:59 AM | Randy,
I agree with you.. I only do the drugs my Dr. makes me take.. I don't do the illegal ones, but I think we need a broader option there... And I have met alot of people who think weed, is therapeutic.. Not that I do it. I just found out my mom did it on a therapeutic basis before she died... and i don't think any less of her.. | |
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Posted: 4/26/2007 1:32:01 AM | | ok your right nicotine is a drug and i am addicted | |
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Posted: 4/27/2007 5:24:12 PM | | Smoking pot on occasion would still make you a yes. A six pack of beer will last me 2 weeks in my fridge, but it still makes me a "social drinker" by the choices given here. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2007 8:34:35 AM |
You sound like a fine upstanding individual. Thanks for sharing. But, if you smoked pot, even a little, would you check the yes in the drug box on your profile?
Well, here is my input with drugs! Anything that affects your daily body functions adversely is considered a drug, and some do cause you to not be able to control what you do. This includes legal, and illegal drugs such as: inflamatories, pot, coffee, alcohol, food, & etc.
So if you considered all of the above and a few more as drugs, even if they are legal, because the check box does not denote whether it is legal or illegal really, then you would HAVE to check yes in all reality. So to me, the Drug check box is redundant in that it is not specific. I follow that, as I do the exclusionary law in Law. If it is not written as specified then all is part of the written issue. (exclusionary law states: "if it is not written in as part of the law then it is NOT the law!")
I have no problem with the drug issue as long as drug use is not excessive and affects how a person speaks, acts, and thinks. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2007 9:05:26 AM |
I wouldn't date a guy who did drugs, in working in the Court System, I see it every day, how it can ruin lives. I want no part of it. That is illegal drugs
By whose authority? The Autocrats in control even now? You see, the legal society uses deception, Force, and threats of Force to operate THEIR system. The Legal system includes the Judiciary, ABA (nothing more than a Union of like minded individuals {Lawyers and Judges} trying to control everyone else), Elected and appointed politicians.
Illegal drugs are not the only things that ruin lives really. OTC (over-the-counter) and prescription drugs, alcohol, food, money (greed, etc.), legal and illegal gun owners, legal housewives, and even mistresses, cause lives to be ruined on a constant basis. All of these issues are conducted in the Courts of Law daily. Sorry, but again Conditioning, even by prosecutors requests and Judge's verdicts, especially, is the direct culprit along with gullibility of the people to allow that to happen. Anyone who believes that they need to force someone to comply with THEIR system is nothing more than an Authoritarian of Force and Coercion over all others.
I am utterly non-supportive of the Authoritarian type of Government that we live with now because of the implementation of the Laws to control all those under its jurisdiction. I, myself, am fully capable of conducting my own life, without the outside authoritarian control that ALL of the Legal Society attempt to issue.
Drugs in my opinion, is nothing more than a coercive, forceful, money-making fundraiser for all politicians and anyone else in the governmental hierarchy to benefit from. This is a problem that was created by government and endorsed by all other legislators, politicians, the Legal Society in general, and was finally force fed to the public to believe as relevant. This is deception in its utmost design and kept enabled by those in the Legal Society because they are too lazy to do follow up research and be honest in their opinions. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2007 9:25:37 AM | | Good for you! I had the same delema. Fact is your honesty trumps your occational use. Many of those people who answered "Socially" to the drinking question, can be found pissed drunk on a regular basis and society is totally ok with it. I think alcohol is a much bigger problem than marajuana but nothing will change until people stop associating pot with hard drugs. To those who have not experienced it, pot is the same as crack. Absolute ignorance. I know I will get less interest by having been honest, but honesty is addictive lol. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2007 9:27:58 AM |
Just pack up the truck and move to Denver now,They just legalized it there in the city yeterday.(Not to say you can't get away with it where your at,But Colorado isn't to far away right?If i offended you in anyway,i apologize,didn't mean to) Good luck on your quest.Light up or leave me alone,lol/Traffic 1975. NY.
I ran for House of Representatives here in Missouri in 2002 and in one of our forums for the candidates, one of the candidates was a Doctor. We were asked if we would support legalization of MJ if elected. Well, this Doctor quite simply and plainly stated that MJ was already legal for medical use in Missouri because he already prescribed and still does to this day, Mj variations for his patients. Guess what? He got elected to office.
Myself, my stand on MJ was: "yeah legalize it because back in the 1930's, it was used for an alternative to gasoline and diesel. It should be legalized and used to bring this country away from the dependence on oil as a basis for fuel. And Tax it for the sales and usage of it no matter what." MJ usage would drop and so would the criminality of it, if it were taxed on the sale. Dealers would drop out of sight or find other means to deal in then.
My view? Get government out of the Drug business. Remember the Anthrax Scare back in 2001? And how the President issued an order to buy up Cipro with taxpayer money. All the President done was to increase his stock holdings money, in the company that makes the drug. Again he pulled the same stunt with the Bird Flu Pandemic by buying up Tamaflu with taxpayer money to increase his stock holding he had in that company too.
Who is benefiting from the War on Drugs and the Legal Drug usage as it stands now? Not us monetarily, that is for sure! Besides I would not take a Drug that has adverse side-effects that can kill ya too. These Pharmaceutical Drug companies are only in the Drug business for the money. | |
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Posted: 4/29/2007 9:28:48 AM | If I haven't smoked pot in 5 years should I check yes?
At least I think it's been 5 years. Where's a calendar. What day is this.  | |
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Posted: 4/30/2007 10:40:26 AM | I would completely skip over a profile if it said yes (although honestly I haven't looked at one that does yet), even if it were "just" pot.
I roomed with a pothead probably a decade or so ago who had amazing potential but instead became a total burnout living from hit to hit, and there's no way I'm going to date somebody who could have even the slightest possibility of going the same route.
That... and maybe I'm just too goody-two-shoes, but it'd bug me if she were constantly breaking the law like that just to get a buzz. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2007 2:39:21 PM |
I roomed with a pothead probably a decade or so ago who had amazing potential but instead became a total burnout living from hit to hit, and there's no way I'm going to date somebody who could have even the slightest possibility of going the same route.
i do have to agree with that to some extent. if i ever get back into dating i would be unlikely to date someone that did not smoke weed. in each of the serious relationships i was in neither girl smoked weed and it was always a problem because they would both complain about my smoking out and it ended up causing a rift and eventually each relationship ended. i would not entirely rule out someone that does not smoke out but they already start out at notch negative one and have to work their way up. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2007 4:16:04 PM | my best friend almost smoked her life away - good thing she put down the pot and did something productive other than staying a pothead.
I just won't go there. never smoked pot, never will. | |
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