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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/17/2007 9:01:32 PM | Yeah, I live a close minded sheltered life because I choose to handle my life without having to get stoned to deal.
You go dude. Smoke a fatty. What a catch my darlin'. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/17/2007 11:30:10 PM | ""You crawl back into your little hole where its safe. That's not living life, that's avoiding it. ""
what makes you think that hole is safe?? what makes you think that hole is little either??
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/18/2007 12:16:27 AM | There's no doubt that drugs ruin a lot of lives. heroin, coke, LSD bad news.
As far as the just say no believers, I have to comment on pot.
If pot is a recreational drug, then so is viagra. Or is it a performance enhancing(or is that enabling) drug. You don't see anyone screaming from their soapboxes about that.(god imagine the divorce rate without it) I don't smoke, but I have in the past and I see no ill effects (except the munchies). The laws which made marijuana
illegal were nearly 100 years ago. The gov't. banned alcohol at one time too. Drunks/alcohol have killed as many or more people than pot(even if you factor in the drug wars). I believe that it is only illegal becuase it is a) an easy bust for the cops b) the alcohol/tobacco companies are in a political position to attempt to keep it that way. I have no real stake in this argument, but I am tired of paying for hippies to sit in jail while murderers, rapists and other violent offenders are let out on the street (and I can kill myself legally while sitting in bar with a liquor license given by the state.) | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/18/2007 5:59:29 PM | How stonerish of you to compare breathing, blinking, and chocolate cake to getting stoned. 
Nah, I dont need a "yes man" in my life, I just prefer (no, thats not 'refer' as in your terms) one that doesnt need to get high. Thats why, my darlin', YOU do not seem appealing to me.
and my mind wasn't built to be henpecked
Of course it isnt, as Im sure its pretty much been weakend by the weed anyhow. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/18/2007 8:59:24 PM | My 2 cents...
My father, in recovery for almost 30 years, 26 of those as a drug/alcohol abuse counselor, almost laughed his butt off when I asked him about pot use. He gave me his blessing, with the admonishment to keep it in moderation, like anything else. Funny thing is, I also had a counselor girlfriend, and she said the same thing. Hmmm...
I decided to file that information under smoking occassionally and I clarify that in my profile text. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/18/2007 8:59:33 PM | | my profile says "no" in the drug category, but i won't claim to be a puritan. i've had a puff here and there, but always when offered by someone else. i've never bought or rolled my own, i probably wouldn't have any idea where to begin if i wanted to do so myself. i have no issue with someone who likes to occasionally indulge socially...as long as it's not a daily thing, and provided their drug use doesn't extend much beyond a bit of 420 or 'shrooms. i'm not too comfortable with the harder stuff. | |
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Soak76
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Joined: 7/9/2007
Msg: 332 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/19/2007 6:29:46 PM | DRUGS are man made, weed is natural. Someone else on here stated that God made weed and man made booze, which would you trust. Now while I'm about as religious as a brick, I do somewhat agree, Weed is here for a reason, and that plant has soooooooo many uses why the hell aren't we using it? It's a gift, we shouldn't shun it. Don't get me wrong, if you don't want to smoke, then by all means, don't smoke, but don't assume that I'm a bad person because I enjoy smoking a bowl after work, or waking up on a saterday and starting my day with a joint. I don't need it, I can and have gone weeks even months with out it, but it is something that I enjoy and like to do as often as my wallet and responsibilities will let me. Now, even though I pride myself on being a "functioning stoner" there is a time and place for everything.
Tell a pothead that he can't have any weed that day and he'll be sad and maybe whine a little, tell a coffee drinker that they can't have their morning Timmies, or a tobacco smoker that they can't have their morning smoke... and you had better run for cover and arm yourself!!!!!
Firecracker74, it is too bad that you're closed minded to potheads, we're polite (for the most part), kind, funny, get along great with kids, and we're relaxed, gentle and normally very generous. All I ask is don't judge me a bad person for smoking weed. and don't write me off because I'm a pothead, or write anyone off for that matter, you could be missing out on a great guy(s). I'm not saying become a pothead, although, I could hook you up  but don't close your self off entirely to the idea of dating a pothead, you never know, it may not be near as bad as you think! Tell you what, you open yourself up to a pothead, and I'll open myself up to a woman with kids... sound fair? So, ummm, what are you doing Saterday? :D LOL | |
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Posted: 7/20/2007 8:19:55 AM | Happy People Vote said, I know simply ENJOY it much like the enjoyment of a fine cut of meat. Im a chef by trade and feel the exact way about it LMAO | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/20/2007 10:24:07 AM | I don't consider pot a drug - since its natural. "NO" in my profile box.. works great for headaches. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/20/2007 1:25:06 PM |
but don't close your self off entirely to the idea of dating a pothead, you never know, it may not be near as bad as you think! Tell you what, you open yourself up to a pothead, and I'll open myself up to a woman with kids... sound fair? So, ummm, what are you doing Saterday? :D LOL
I know more about this than others think-although I will not induldge my whole personal past, I will tell you that I left my ex husband over it. He chose this over his wife and newborn daughter. So yes, it is bad as I think.
If you want to open yourself up to dating a woman with a child, so be it. You have your preference, I have mine. No potheads for me or near my child, thanks! | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/20/2007 3:21:22 PM | | I will not be with someone who does any drugs. I have to be tested regularly for school and work and won't risk inhaling something by accident and failing a test. So I won't even look at a profile with the yes box checked. Besides, it doesn't specify what drugs. Idk if it is something much more hard, and I really don't want to be around someone who does anything more than smokes the occasional doobie. | |
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Soak76
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Joined: 7/9/2007
Msg: 337 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/20/2007 4:10:39 PM | He chose pot over his wife and kid? I think there was more to it than that. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but it's a matter of priorities. If you gave him an ultimatum of you&child, or the pot, and he chose the pot, he was looking for away out to begin with. I assume that you two were together for quite a while before this happened, and that his pot use wasn't a new thing. Personally, there is no way I would choose pot over the woman I loved and my child, no way in hell. Now, if I didn't give two shiznits about the woman, then yeah, I'd stick with Mary Jane, but I'd still DEMAND to be part of my childs life, and not just every second weekend either. But that's me.
For the record, I am open to women with children, I just said that to get a bit of a rise outta ya!! You can smack me for that later.
I should appologize to ppl out there too, I keep forgetting that this isn't just a canadain forum, you americans have it rough when it comes to the pot, even two joints will get you jail time and ALOT of companies have a ZERO tolerance policy concerning pot. So in that respect I can tottally understand why you would pass over someone that smokes. Although, if you drink a liter of viniger a couple of hours before you pisstest, you test clean... old jail trick :D it's good to know ppl in low places sometimes!!! Still, I understand that decision and back you with it!
Potheads are not the evil ppl that we're made out to be, of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but that's not the pot, that's the person.
I have a question for the ppl that say "not around me or my kids". Do you think that we're gonna blow the smoke right in your faces? I mean, I know ppl that say that, but sit there with thier kid on one hand and a cigarette in the other, how is that not the same thing? Or open booze on the tabel and little ones running around. I mean, my smoking a joint 15 or 20 ft away from you isn't gonna get you buzzed, the THC isn't gonna seep through my pores and into your child if I'm high and decide to give your kid a hug.. I dunno, I just think that if you're gonna say that for weed, you should include tobbacco and booze with that, and for those of you that already do, Kudos! Anywho, it's friday, 6ish pm, I'm off the clock, time to go home and have a nice conversation with Mary, and start my weekend with a smile!! Have a good one ppls!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 7/20/2007 4:17:28 PM | Its always amusing to assume that there was more to it than that. There really wasnt. And if he wanted out, he wouldnt have begged me to come home for a yr. afterwards. He went downhill when we lost 2 daughters prematurely. I sought support groups, he turned to drugs-end of story. But, you can believe all what you wish.
I have a question for the ppl that say "not around me or my kids". Do you think that we're gonna blow the smoke right in your faces?
You need to look deeper than that. Obviously "we" dont think you would-what a dipshi.t thing to do or even think. When you are a parent, you grow up and its all about responsibilities. Its not an environment or an example I want to set for my child.
Like I stated earlier-no druggies for me. End of story. Justify WHY one does it- could care less. Its not what I choose to have in my lifestyle PERIOD. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/20/2007 4:57:41 PM | I checked no, as saying yes to drug taking for me was just to broad, i do smoke pot! regularly ,however have put "i like a smoke if that offends i'm not for you!" on my profile .
i feel that is both honest and upfront! maybe you should do that ? anyway as a daughter of an alcoholic i dont see whats wrong with a smoke, however the skunk today i'm noticing teenagers and young adults monged out ,like wasps in autum all dosile!
so think it's a case of, if u smoke and u can still get up for work and it doesnt slow u down in life, puff away!
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Soak76
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Joined: 7/9/2007
Msg: 340 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 3:26:13 AM |
He went downhill when we lost 2 daughters prematurely
So there was more to it. What was he into? If you don't mind.
Obviously "we" dont think you would-what a dipshi.t thing to do or even think. When you are a parent, you grow up and its all about responsibilities. Its not an environment or an example I want to set for my child.
Well, Obviously "you" think we're gonna do something, or you wouldn't say that in the first place. Responsibilites, environment, and example... hmmm, that's funny, all the smokers I associate with are hard working, honest, fun loving, kind, respectible ppl. Go to work every day, help the ppl they care about, their kids don't go with out, get lots of food, love, respect, education, morals, manners and dicipline. All live in decent apts or houses, pay their bills, drive decent cars, (except for Rob and his Kia!!! HA HA SUCKER!!!) and have jobs ranging from buisness owners, to healthcare professionals, tradesmen, even millitary. So forgive me if I can't seem to grasp your point about environment, example or responsibilities, but then again, you keep talking about druggies, and we're pot smokers, there's a difference.
This isn't even about the "would you date" thing anymore, just tired of being lumped in with actual drug users. | |
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tyedye
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Joined: 7/22/2005
Msg: 341 | |
| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 10:37:22 AM | Merry Meet All,
I agree w/you randy,why lie.it'll only comne back to bite you on the ass later.
Reguardless of what any of the outcomes w/potential dates might be,at least you'll never feel you had to lie to find someone who 'gets' you.
~Tye | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 5:53:31 PM | I spent the last 17 years as a single dad and made the choice to not date women who were into pot or drugs..My choice is based on what I feel comfortable with. Many pot users don't want pot grouped among harder drugs...
Many of my friends are pot smokers and they are wonderful and harmless people.
I simply have the right to say I won't date pot or drug users...It doesn't mean I think any of them are harmful..I just don't want it around me and mine..We all make our own life choices..I have made mine and will stick by them..no users..
I hear many smokers on here trying to justify their use and they are entitled to their opinions. It sounds alot like me on the subject of beer..I am far from a steady drinker, but occasionally enjoy a few cold beer on the weekend...Harmless, but I respect women who don't want to be near anyone who drinks...even a little..
We are adults on this site, so we're not going to sway anyone's opinions here. The post was about dating someone who does drugs...We all know that includes pot, as drinking has it's own category..I just don't see the point of someone posting an opinion here and then the next person trying to convince them they're wrong..Free speech..Free opinions. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 7:05:51 PM | Soak,
Great all your friends work and are responsible. Im still not budging on my beliefs and your attitude and what you believe wont change it.
So forgive me if I can't seem to grasp your point about environment
You dont have to grasp my point. You smoke it and are for it, so really, its a waste of your breath. However, when I speak of environment, I do not mean in the physical sense. We raise our children to believe drugs are bad. (IE-D.A.R.E). How hypocritical of me to teach my child this and then go toke it up in the bathroom. You set an example for your child. Its as simple as that. I dont care if you dont get my morals. Take it or leave it.
just tired of being lumped in with actual drug users.
I have not lumped you into anything. I am merely stating my reasons to which have pertained to the actual thread. If you are feeling this way, then obviously I am not the first to point this out to you. That is something you must struggle with within your soul that you are obviously having a struggle with.
I have no use for this thread, as I have answered the thread in an appropriate manner. It is my opinion, and as a parent, I stick to my core beliefs and those can challange it all they want. I care to handle my business soberly, effectively, and to the best of my ability as a woman, as a mother, and as a single parent. If you dont "get it", then so be it ;o) | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/21/2007 8:45:49 PM | Drugs and most drug people bore me. Having done that many times while growing up, I simply grew out of it.
I have little tolerance/acceptance for soft drugs like pot and no tolerance for hard drugs.
Outtie61 | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/22/2007 5:27:30 AM | | No way....no thanks, not in this lifetime or any other. I've tried to resuscitate overdoses, and telling ones family that I'm sorry but your son has died of an apparent drug overdose, or telling a child your Mom, has died from the drugs she did. I value life and those in it. Why would anyone what to do drugs that impair thoughts, make your brain bleed onto your spine, give delusional thoughts and make you see things that aren't there???? Plus all the long term damage it does on your heart, and other internal organs. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/22/2007 4:19:13 PM | Personally the one that gets me mostly is SMOKING.. but that's just because I don't really.. or I guess because I am more scared that I'd fall back into the habit. I put NO on the profile because.. well I've had I think 2 whole experiences that mostly amounted to me sitting in a Denny's at 3 AM and just staring at the menu for 90 minutes. Not exactly something I am keen on to repeat, although at the same time could never say I never would repeat the experiment. Taken.. once in a while.. I don't see anything wrong with drugs.. just as long as you can keep yourself and others safe, why not? As long as you're hurting no noe.. but that's getting into a WHOLE other thread.
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/24/2007 7:41:51 PM |
Name me one case where someone has died/OD'd from only marijuana...
Kids are trying more then just weed anymore. They are lacing it with pneumonia, bleach, crank, etc etc etc. In order to get a better high they move on to huffing, triple C's (this is an over the counter cold and cough medicine taken in large quantities), acid, coke, crack, heroin. etc etc etc. My point is, you don't know what your getting. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/25/2007 6:06:20 AM |
Did somebody tell you that or did you read that in a magazine somewhere? You know magazines/media will take the worst case scenario no matter how trivial it is and make their case about it.
No I did not read it in some magazine. This thread is about "the drug thing" not just weed. My post was based on experiences of dealing with patients, who have used and what it has done to them, their families and their lives. Where they started and what they did to make their high better. I never stated they were just using weed. Having had family members go through drug abuse in their younger days and now are on medication to help prevent seizures, panic attacks, major changes in heart arrhythmias, etc etc. You can't tell me that people that smoke weeds aren't addicts, I'm in the healthcare field and I SEE IT.
You believe and do what you will, its your choice. Trying to justify to me what you do is pointless. | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/25/2007 4:13:30 PM |
That doesn't give you any broader vision than anyone else on the subject
Really now? Being that she has studied medical, she has, indeed, a very wide range and broader outlook than your narrow minded-all for token it up-pot clouded vision.
You are just one of the flock who like to lump things together in one group rather than try to take the time to get the facts straight.
A taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad bit hyporcritcal dontcha think? I would trust one in the medical field before Id trust a burnt out weed toker. Ive noticed something with you in regards to this thread: Anyone who chooses to be against pot is automatically labeled as one who is ignorant. Tell me, know all, how you reach YOUR conclusion that it "a-ok"? Oh, thats right, cause you smoke it. Naturally, you dont find anything wrong with it. (slaps forehead). Again, oh brilliant one, she stated she does not read it in the magazines. Her facts come strait from dealing with it in her employment.
Even if I go to hell, at least I can say I got the most out of life. I'm happy to burn for that.
Wow. What a terrific outlook you have on life. Go find your strawberry field forever my son. Go. Go now! Look! I see those purple elephants in the sky. They are calling for you!!!!!!! | |
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| The drug thing.
Posted: 7/25/2007 5:54:50 PM | Same account, same picture. Pssssst. You can switch your handle name to whatever you like.
Not everyone who is against it has NEVER tried it. Making THAT statement is pretty ignorant yourself.
Im curious as to what makes you an expert in this field? You seem to use the term ignorant pretty loosely when someones views against pot come about. How would you know where her facts come from unless you were in the medical field as well? Youre just pissy that someone who knows about the medical aspect of it is sharing their knowledgable views. So the only thing you can do, is label them as ignorant.
I like how you attempt to take shots at my intelligence when I have single handedly shot down any and all attempts at your reasoning on this subject.
Apparently you are feeling a bit insecure at your OWN intelligence, Im not, Im merely challanging your viewpoint. Again, my reasoning is MY reasoning. Im not here for your amusement, but merely to express my viewpoint on this subject and debate. It seems you get hot under the collar when someone challanges your outlook.
Purple elephants? Strawberry fields? Jesus, you actually think pot smokers hallucinate? Lady, you have your chemicals mixed up and obviously your knowledge credibility.
My obvious sarcasm flew over your head. My point proven.
BTW, I *love* how you appear high and mighty on the "educated" side of pot. Wow. To actually proclaim yourself all knowledgable on pot. Makes you sound like a winner. Go you! | |
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