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 rubber_soul

Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 401
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/7/2007 10:49:54 AM
It's ironic, I had started smoking weed because I didn't want to resort to sleeping pills lol.Ten years ago, when my son was diagnosed with a rare neurological disease, I took it hard, and literally did not sleep for 8 days. At that point, my husband (now ex) brought me home some weed, and whammo, I slept like a baby.Now, I would give my left arm to sleep for more than 45 minutes, my boss sent me home today because of my incessant yawning and dropping things. It's funny, half of me wants a friggin joint more than my next breath of air, but there is a new part of me saying 'don't do it!!don't backslide!'In the past three days, I have had less than 3 hours of sleep!Ugh..but, I am not running to the weed, so I guess it's worth a few sleepless nights...I hope :)

Anyone care to come whack me on the head with a mallet so I can catch some zzzzzz's?
 Hudsonbay1960

Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 402
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The drug thing. Hey, Blewbah:
Posted: 8/7/2007 8:18:02 PM
Alcohol, caffiene, tobacco (nicotine) ARE drugs, just legal ones. They are also addictive. In fact, nicotine is said to be harder to quit than heroin. That does not change the relationship we have with pot.

And Blewbah, you are a user. Be honest. The amount or frequency does not matter. Check yes.

Respectfully yours ~ Huddy
 Hudsonbay1960

Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 403
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The drug thing.: Rubbersoul
Posted: 8/7/2007 8:22:56 PM
Congratulations ! Anytime any of us make improvements in our lives its a momentous thing ! I do not judge you for having been a smoker; Breaking any habit is a challenge ! Applause applause!
 All Lynn

Joined: 10/19/2006
Msg: 404
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 3:11:32 PM
I checked "prefer not to say", I don't want people to think I shoot heroin or pop oxycontin, the sort of thing "Yes" might imply, more so than my choice. They should give you more options, like "I smoke pot occasionally" and "I'm a chronic pot smoker" because I smoke occasionally but my X was chronic. So naturally he spent all of his money on pot and if I had a little for myself he would steal that and smoke it too. Or if I smoked some of his with him then as soon as he was out of pot and money I would "owe" him and he would insist in a very nasty way that I buy some and he would smoke all of it in a day or two - would have lasted me months. So, he was a jerk and a do-nothing and needless to say, always broke. So I don't really want to date a chronic smoker unless they can actually afford their habit, considering pot isn't even slightly addictive (and some will insist it is but if you don't agree then please tell me why is it I can smoke pot for days on end then never touch it for weeks, even if I have some, when I can't go without a cigarette for even a couple of hours without feeling it profusely?). So I'm not going to say "No" to that question. Other options should also be "I enjoy hard drugs" or "I'm an addict" or even "sometimes" might be helpful.
For smoking I picked "occasionally" because I've quit twice in the last 11 months, but keep picking it up again. Some more options might be helpful there too, if I quit for 6 months and I say No doesn't mean I won't start again.
 FadingCaptain

Joined: 3/18/2007
Msg: 405
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 5:05:31 PM
I hear you All Lynn, the option is just way too broad. It may work for people with a more black and white attitude towards pot...but to the people residing in the grey area, it's next to useless. I'm really open to the occasional pot smoker, it's not a big deal if we click, but the chronic smoker better have a huge bank account to be funding that really expensive habit.

I don't smoke now and could pass a drug test, but I wouldn't want to be berated by a significant other if I wanted to get a little smoke in on a future occasion.
 rubber_soul

Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 406
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 8:15:28 PM
Why does everyone think pot is so expensive for a chronic smoker? As I said before, I spent less in my chronic pot habit than I did on cigarettes! There's really only so much you can smoke, the rest is a waste, so I can't see it breaking the bank unless you have no income at all. Now,crack and herion etc, they could easily clean you out, but I think that's also because they are so intensly physically addictive.Pot is really only psycologically addictive..I'm finding that out since I quit.

I guess I shouldnt generalize tho, there could be people out there throwing thier whole paycheck on pot....I think that's a silly thing to do tho.
 FadingCaptain

Joined: 3/18/2007
Msg: 407
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 8:24:50 PM
I was referring to people who spend more then $20 a day on it...they exist trust me. that's $140 a week...$560 a month...
 rubber_soul

Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 408
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 9:16:29 PM
^^^^WOW,I cannot believe any0ne would spend that much! Guess I wasn't as bad as I thought! Hope you didn't take offense, I was trying to debunk you or anything lol. I spent 100 a payday,I couldnt justify spending more than that...
 FadingCaptain

Joined: 3/18/2007
Msg: 409
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/8/2007 9:19:04 PM
No it's cool...pot is not one of those things you build a huge tolerance to. I agree with you, a tiny hit goes a looong way...anything more is just chasing your tail.
 rubber_soul

Joined: 7/13/2007
Msg: 410
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/9/2007 5:21:49 PM
Disneymom, if you are still tracking my progress, tommorow it'll be one week. I have to say I feel goddamned gooooooood! Peppy as hell! I walked over to Dollarama and dropped 40 bucks on a shitload of jewellry making stuff, so now I have a new hobby.
Honestly, if I had realized how much better I'd feel after quitting, I'd have quit years ago! I do have to admit tho, once I am over the every day thing, a few months down the line, I'll prolly have a wee dubie on the weekend, every once and a while.Moderation....a novel concept!
 floridascot

Joined: 8/2/2007
Msg: 411
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The drug thing.
Posted: 8/9/2007 6:06:02 PM
i think the whole drug thing is linked to self esteem myself if you know what they say reality is for people who cannot handle drugs and drugs are for people who cannot handle reality...i have dated a few girls who smoke pot before sex as that relaxes them .i thought sex would relax them.....seems to release their inhibitions ,which to me means they are sexually repressed ,i think it might be the same with alchohol they have to surpress something thats bothering them ,to me sex is more exciting when the lights are on and the girl is not all banged up on drugs and alchohol...and if you need to get a girl drunk to sleep with her ,your not much a man really.
i do wonder how many kids have been conceived in a one night drunken binge ,that to me is scary and totally inhuman.
 pmoniker

Joined: 8/6/2007
Msg: 412
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/9/2007 6:16:56 PM
My first post on these forums. Gotta start somewhere I suppose.

I will always skip over profiles where the user admits to drug use. It's a matter of principles. Never done them, never will. Not even in college. It would be pointless to look for someone you're compatible with if they don't share a similar mindset about some of the most fundamental choices one makes in life.

It's an entirely different discussion if one wants to debate the merits or drawbacks of drug use, but it's important to respect someone's decision if they don't have an interest in you because of it.
 skyblujeep

Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 413
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Posted: 8/9/2007 8:46:58 PM

What are your thoughts?

I would skip over a profile because it says anything other than no.
OP, if any of the yes/no options honestly do not describe you well, choose whatever and then make sure you explain it a bit in the blab below. The worst thing is that you will have wasted 20 seconds of a persons time. No big deal.
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Rubber Soul: I am very proud of you. Keep the faith. I offer my support anytime you wish.
 *DisneyMom*

Joined: 5/15/2007
Msg: 414
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/10/2007 6:00:29 AM
That is great rubber. Let me know anytime ya need help struggling or whatever, feel free to email me. Im no councilor, but, I do have experience in it. Pot killed my marriage due to my ex husbands addicted use. It played a huge part, but not a main contributor. I wont go into detail on a public message board, but, it did happen after we were married and some events happend during the marrage that caused it to spiral downhill. Being that I recognize certain patterns, I choose to not date someone who smokes it. Just my preference.
Good luck to you and keep me posted!
 nomadd77

Joined: 5/21/2007
Msg: 415
The drug thing.
Posted: 8/10/2007 8:45:58 AM
I would skip over the profile not becuase I have a problem with a girl who smokes a little pot , but because on aswer of yes could also indicate that the girl sniffs coke , shoots up smokes meth or anything else. There is no indicator on the profile. Alot of ppl who have actually done drugs in the past know there is a huge difference between these. Most of the ppl who say a drug is a drug doesnt matter are really very ignorant (by ignorant i dont mean stupid but the actual meaning of the word) about drugs. In my opinion they should add another catagory do you smoke weed. Alcohol and cigerettes are just as much "a drug" as pot they are just legal. They are given their own catagorys so should pot. Some ppl would beleive that saying that they smoke could indicate that they smoke pot while others would consider that only cigerettes and think that pot is catagorized strictly as a drug. Its all to confusing and to many ppl have different definitions , an aditional catagory would make things alot clearer
 123carrie

Joined: 7/25/2007
Msg: 416
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Posted: 8/10/2007 9:06:12 AM
Try moving halfway around the country only to get a call one night that the person who you were dating was in jail for possession and distribution of drugst (in the Bicycle Shop he owns) and had the police call you for bail money because his best male friend refused to do it. Then, ask you to go to court with him the next day for support, when what he forgot to mention is that "oh yeah, I don't have money for court bond". I laugh at it now, but it sure was not funny then. This guy is actually on POF and checked the box that he does not do drugs. It wasn't just the deceit, but since I am in the medical profession, if I had been at his store when the bust occurred I could have been arrested too and lost my ability to practice medicine. It is interesting too that there is a place to check whether or not a person smokes, but not a box that a person has to check if they do (or sell) drugs. All in all, it might be a mute point anyway, because anyone can write or check the box of anything they want (truthful or not).
 sancho!

Joined: 1/10/2007
Msg: 417
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Posted: 8/11/2007 10:14:29 AM
it might be a mute point anyway


is that a point that can't speak? those are my favorite kind of points right after moo points (for all you friends fans). just kidding. :P
 janey lou

Joined: 8/24/2007
Msg: 418
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Posted: 8/28/2007 4:17:40 AM
i'm flabbergasted to hear people recommended you change that i assume you told them where to stick it thats draconian

imo its better to be honest from the offset then no nasty suprises later on

i do feel that more detail in that box would be advantageous
 floridascot

Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 9/26/2007 10:29:01 AM
i am in total agrreance with medical marijuana,but thats it i have never thought drugs answered or solved any problems ,you have to wonder ,they call it dope ,self explanatory,and i agree with one person who says it is a self esteem issue,if you do not like the skin your in ,then they might try escapism in the form of drugs ,but that is back to crappy parents making their kids feel bad and they grow up feeling bad about themselves,end up strippers smoking pot and having no respect,still i have no problem with strippers,.......,, being a guy and all (they are much better than pot)i think people that have experimented with drugs ,well that is a part of life ,but if you are older and still smoking pot then you have major problerms ,life is not that bad that you need to dull all the senses...........
 Caper143

Joined: 8/2/2007
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Posted: 9/27/2007 7:29:13 PM
I think it's great that you are honest..but I have a 6 year old daughter and I don't chose to have someone who smokes weed as a partner in my life. I have friends who do it..no where's near my daughter of course...and that is their choice...but if I am going to live with a man and share my life with him...I'd perfer he were drug free...so yeah..whether I find out now or later..you are right about one thing...I'd be walking either way.
 brons2

Joined: 9/21/2007
Msg: 421
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Posted: 9/27/2007 8:14:40 PM

Here's one for you. There is a box to check for drugs. It is a simple yes or no or prefer not to say which to me is a yes. Since I will not lie or mislead, I HAD to check yes. You see, I smoke pot on occassion. Not every day. Not every week, just sometimes I smoke pot. I grew up in the 70's and figure I have done every drug you can imagine, but not anymore. That was then, this is now. I have sired a wonderful, bright lad who is now 11. I have written a book and lead a fairly normal life. I would have to say there are no lasting effects from my youthful drug use or my occassional pot smoking.
Here are my questions:
How many of you checked NO but would still take a puff now and then?
How many of you (I got slammed from some, told to lie by others) would skip over a profile because it says yes?
I will not change my YES to NO or Prefer Not To Say. If someone walks because of it, so be it. I figure they will walk eventually anyways. How do you handle this? What are your thoughts?

Thinking out loud,

Randy


I don't do anything any more but I have been an occasional pot smoker in years past and I would not be against someone else getting high occasionally.

anyone who drinks but yet is all high and mighty about mary jane is a damn hypocrite.
 crane man

Joined: 8/17/2007
Msg: 422
The drug thing.
Posted: 9/28/2007 6:06:32 PM
To the Op, Yes I smoked drugs in my party years, but I grew up. I became a parent and thus have a responsibility to my son. I would pass on a profile if they did drugs. It is not something that I want, or need in my life.
 Kvass

Joined: 1/6/2007
Msg: 423
The drug thing.
Posted: 9/30/2007 6:32:49 PM
Prefer not to say! Now, that is a dead give away! Why answer that question at all?
 BC girls Kick Ass

Joined: 9/26/2007
Msg: 424
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Posted: 9/30/2007 11:11:40 PM
Well personally for me I don't do drugs nor do I want anybody I'm looking for to do drugs. It's my choice and if you do drugs now then I would pass you by. If you lie then that's awful cause sooner or later the person you're interested in will find out. It's the same with smoking or wanting children it's up to you what you tick off, but if you don't want kids then by all means put it down, or if you smoke then that's your choice and it gives us the choice to want to talk to you or not because of it. I'm not sure if any of this makes sense but I know what I want to say but sometimes it just doesn't come out very well in words lol .
 sijonah

Joined: 2/4/2007
Msg: 425
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/6/2008 7:57:08 PM
Pharmaceutical companies sometimes falsely portray themselves as good practitioners but they have whole marketing departments trying to persuade us that certain drugs are the cure for our problems. Consider the withholding of evidence regarding the possible suicidal (literally) effect of prozac .
On the one hand anyone who takes "recreational" drugs without finding out the possible effect is being extremely stupid. Also, anyone who refuses to even consider taking a drug simply because of social pressures is also (in my view) an idiot. And anyway, everything that we eat contains drugs and to draw a line between so called recreational and other drugs is a somewhat false distinction. Smoking cause countless deaths but we still don't make it illegal. Cannabis on the other hand seems to be quite useful in a number of roles. As for cannabis psychosis or developig schizophrenia. Well studies where people did become psychotic are usually among groups with very large amounts of cannabos consumption or by stupidly smoking cannabis with ridiculously large amounts of THC (the active ingredient in cannabis.) As for schizophrenia, again, people with a family history of the illness are more likely to become ill if they smoke cannabis but again since the drug is illegal very few studies have been done in the UK (although the Home Office authorises them occasionally).
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