| The drug thing.
Posted: 12/19/2004 8:30:31 AM |
Pot has almost no undesired side effects
On you perhaps, not on everyone, *I* experience adverse effects. Go ahead, smoke pot, *I* personally don't care. But don't be ignorant and use the "it's all drugs" argument. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 8:33:49 AM | Pot is a depressant. Doh. THC builds up in the fatty tissues in your body and stays there for months. Daily use can make you sterile. Blah blah blah... I'd call those adverse effects, myself.
I also think that SSRIs and absolutely MAOIs have many terrible side effects, but since people who take those are obviously trying to deal with a much worse illness -- depression of some kind -- it's not the same thing at all.
But you, looking for an excuse to justify your position, lump all medications and drugs in the same basket. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 11:47:11 AM | I think its like most things in life its a personal choice no one person has the right to impose
there belives on another....altough if a person puts another in danger by there acts then there are laws .....anyway you can tell by my ramblings that im a stoner its my CHOICE
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Posted: 12/19/2004 12:32:02 PM | Pot stays in the system for 7 days. Just ask anyone who smokes and needed a urine test. There are also a few natural herbs one can digest to speed the process.
I have some pot for well over 20 years. I am not sterile nor show any ill effects. I do not believe I am a marvel of medical science. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 2:23:23 PM | 7 Days?
Ricky Williams would strongly disagree with you... | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 2:29:14 PM | smoking pot isn't a problem unless it's a chronic thing, just like someone who drinks everyday. giving a clinical report of what pot *could* do does nothing but gets those who laughed at reefer madness something else to chuckle about.
i have a friend who used to drink a lot, for awhile. he felt that wasn't such a good thing for him, so he quit. guess what? he started smoking pot several times a day, every day. with a bunch of valium thrown in for fun lots of those days. i told him that it wasn't much better than his drinking days - all he'd done is substitute one addition for another. but i guess we all have our vices. & it's really nobody's business unless they're in a personal relationship with the person or it starts affecting others. somebody "thinking it's wrong" isn't good enough. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 2:33:57 PM | | addition = addiction (i should proofread first!) | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 3:17:37 PM | "But don't be ignorant and use the "it's all drugs" argument."
That really wasn't what I meant to say. My position is that people are so hypocritical about drugs that I refuse to play that game. I refuse to discuss drugs anymore because nobody is honest about them, and everyone tries to put other people down if they don't happen to agree with them on their drug of choice. In other words, discussing drugs has become a "no-win" game. We have a bunch of losers condemning other people for using pot. IMHO, some of those losers should toke up once in awhile. They might figure out what idiots they are. | |
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Posted: 12/19/2004 3:56:18 PM | If you want to condemn a drug, start with nicotine. It creates more negative health impacts than all the illicit substances combined.
http://www.reconsider.org/issues/public_health/estimated_deaths_.htm | |
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Posted: 12/20/2004 10:49:55 AM | I don't think the issue was about condemning drugs, it was about listing use of pot in your profile... The concern is would someone pass you by for having checked 'yes' to drugs if they knew it was 'just' pot?
Of course everyone has an opinion about drug use of any kind, the question was actually about someone else's possible perception if you selected 'yes' in your profile, not over whether or not using drugs is right or wrong or whatever. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2004 10:52:46 AM |
Pot stays in the system for 7 days. Just ask anyone who smokes and needed a urine test.
It might only stay in URINE for 7 days, but if you test your HAIR it shows up for a heck of a lot longer than that, and if you read my post, I said FATTY TISSUES... It has less of a sterilizing effect on men than women because 1) we have more fatty tissue and 2) our eggs are already there, whereas you continually manufacture sperm.
Look, I personally do not care if you smoke pot, my issue in this thread is with people who state 'facts' to support their opinion that aren't facts at all. | |
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Posted: 12/20/2004 11:34:38 AM | "The concern is would someone pass you by for having checked 'yes' to drugs if they knew it was 'just' pot?"
Point taken. I guess I should have answered the question by saying, "I don't care if someone like that would pass me by. I avoid people like that, anyway." | |
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Posted: 12/20/2004 5:06:52 PM | sorry my post was not on topic...effects of antibiotics and prednisone at the time...LOL
To address the point in question, yeah, I'd pass on an admitted pot user. Having been one in the past, I find it boring and a legal entanglement. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2004 8:22:48 PM |
effects of antibiotics and prednisone at the time...LOL
U drug abuser, u!! heh heh...
After reading this thread, I will be more careful about how I read profiles. I simply don't go for the ones who check 'yes' because I don't want the legal/health issue entanglements either... | |
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Posted: 12/22/2004 11:57:55 PM | | haha, buds rule! but i checked the no box, because when people say 'drugs', nowadays they think of the hard ones,coke,meth,etc. personaly, i dont consider pot a drug,though many may disagree... | |
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Posted: 12/22/2004 11:59:39 PM | | uh, no, its 28 days, isnt it? thats what probabtion used to say years ago..LOL | |
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Posted: 12/25/2004 10:37:24 AM | | Nothing is truly set in stone & each is a judgment call. I was an alcoholic for more than ten years & a heroin addict for 6. Both of which are simply things about me they do not define me. There isn't any shame in our addictions only in our actions or lack thereof. i am forever judged by some social stigma. And always assumed to be someone I haven't ever been or will be, someone less than worthwhile & based on no behavior I would ever do! Let alone over & over. Yet over & over its put on me before any real knowledge of me & I just don't cut the mustard while sportin such shame. The real shame.. | |
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Posted: 12/25/2004 3:03:18 PM | Taryn - Congratulations on coming to terms with your particular devil. People should not judge, what you did in the past, is in the past, it is the present and the future that truly matters. Both are something that I know you must deal with on a daily basis... oh well, tis just another facet of someones life. If the folks you talk to are unwilling to give you a chance and learn what you are today... they are not worth your effort or time, or sorrow.
Smile, Tis Christmas... Hope you are having a good one...
~~Dragon Rider~~
As the Dragon Spake, Magic Happens
Merry Christmas | |
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Posted: 12/25/2004 7:50:37 PM | | lol...I say d*mn near everyone is on drugs of some sort. It might be an asprin a hydro tab to freaking med for ADD or ADDHD ..even pills so men can get them some .. you get the Ideal... what does the public expect .. its eveywhere on TV in in your home town my drug of choice keeps me sane .... so dont judge those who use drug...there not all bad ... Summer | |
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Posted: 12/25/2004 8:06:10 PM | Too true summer... as I say, I don't even do aspirin unless I am very ill indeed... alcohol and tobacco are all I use with any regularity... and even with that the alcohol is pretty sparse...
(Good things do indeed come in small packages... you aren't that short, just too far away)
~~Dragon Rider~~
Dragon Tears, sad and magical at the same time
Merry Christmas... | |
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Posted: 12/26/2004 7:31:42 PM | Not Short..Altitude Challenged
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Posted: 12/27/2004 4:19:39 PM | I checked "NO", and I don't indulge. If it weren't for the job thingy, I would smoke Pot now and then. But it would be when I was with someone I would be sharing sexual contact with. because I would be all over someone if I smoked.
I wouldn't skip over a profile that says "Yes", or "Prefers not to say" (still a yes). But I would want to know WHAT drugs, and to what extent when we had a relationship underway, before it got too serious. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2004 1:51:56 AM | I re-read the thread completely this morning. I realised that I had taken the question to be purely related to hard drugs, not grass or hash. Further, I realised how long I have been living in a country where soft drugs are legal, and adults of all ages, if they wish, can sit in a coffeeshop and relax with a quiet smoke. And no one gets excited about it.
And if the question is do you do legal drugs in the country where you live, the answer is yes, very rarely with the exception of alchohol, which gets a more regular use :)
Interesting thread Randy. Thanks for starting it. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2004 1:31:28 PM | | well randy... it's great that you were honest and checked that box yes, knowing you smoke pot here and there. but for me... it's a deal breaker. if i see anything other than no... i move on and that goes the same for alcohol use. i don't do drugs, don't smoke pot, don't drink alcohol at home, so that's not a quality i want to find in a partner i might choose. but... just because they're checked to read NO... doesn't mean they don't indulge. so... maybe that's something you should think about... you could always check no and explain later. i don't think people need to know every little bit about you through your profile. | |
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Posted: 12/31/2004 4:02:47 PM | | brian..that's one of the things that makes the netherlands so interesting! i'd love to see the 'reefer madness' totally disassociated with something like occasional pot usage. some actually have that impression here, still. | |
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