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 oldsarge

Joined: 12/30/2004
Msg: 101
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/1/2005 10:07:30 PM
Well, let's hear from a young woman who is no longer "with us".

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Paintsville Herald - News

The body of Alicia Von Davis, 21, was found in an apartment off Broadway Monday and though an autopsy has not yet confirmed the cause of death, her father says he expects it was her addiction to drugs.
The family of the 21-year-old woman found in an apartment on Broadway Monday, who is possibly Johnson County’s latest casualty of drug addiction, has submitted a poem she wrote with the hope it will save a life or at least “make a family realize their children are not bad children.”
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Meet Mr. & Mrs. Crystal Meth
By Alicia Von Davis

I destroy homes, I tear families apart,
I take your children and that’s just the start.
I’m more valued than diamonds, more precious than gold.
The sorrow I bring is a sight to behold.
If you need me, remember, I’m easily found.
I live all around you, in school and in town.
I live with the rich, I live with the poor,
I live just down the street and maybe next door.
I’m made in a lab, but not one like you think:
I can be made under the kitchen sink,
In your child’s closet, and even out in the woods.
If this scares you to death, then it certainly should.
I have many names, but there’s one you’ll know best.
I’m sure you heard of me. My name is Crystal Meth.
My power is awesome, try me, you’ll see;
But if you do, you may never break free.
Just try me once and I might let you go.
But if you try me twice, then I’ll own your soul.
When I possess you, you’ll steal and you’ll lie.
You’ll do what you have to do, just to get high.
The crimes you’ll commit for my narcotic charms
Will be worth the pleasures you feel in my arms.
You’ll lie to your mother, you’ll steal from your dad.
When you see their tears, you must feel sad.
Just forget your morals and how you were raised.
I’ll be your conscience, I’ll teach you my ways.
I take kids from their parents, I take parents from their kids.
I turn people from God. I separate friends.
I’ll take everything from you, your looks and your pride.
I’ll be with you always, right by your side.
You’ll give up everything, your family, your home,
Your money, your true friend – then you’ll be alone.
I’ll take and take ‘til you have no more to give.
When I finish with you, you’ll be lucky to live.
If you try me, be warned: this is not a game.
If I’m given the chance, I’ll drive you insane.
I’ll ravage your body, I’ll control your mind.
I’ll own you completely. Your soul will be mine.
The nightmares I’ll give you when you’re lying in bed
And the voices you’ll hear from inside your head,
The sweats, the shakes, and the visions you’ll see:
I want you to know these things are gifts from me.
By then it’s too late, and you’ll know in your heart
That you are now mine and we shall not part.
You’ll regret that you tried me (they always do),
But you come to me, not I to you.
You knew this would happen. Many times you were told.
But you challenged my power. You chose to be bold.
You could have said no and then walked away.
If you could live that day over now, what would you say?
My power is awesome, as I told you before.
I can take your life and make it so dim and sore.
I’ll be your master and you’ll be my slave.
I’ll even go with you when you go to your grave.
Now that you’ve met me, what will you do?
Will you try me or not? It’s all up to you.
I can show you more misery than words can tell.
Come take my hand, let me lead you to HELL.
*****************************

Angels keep you, Alecia
 samhonolulu

Joined: 12/24/2004
Msg: 102
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/4/2005 2:44:42 AM
Wonderful poem!
cost me my family.
my ex is still 'on' - even while on probation for it.
Drugs are like anything else - wonderful, until you have to pay the consequences...
Which may be billed to your children or another loved one. My daughter is paying for her Daddy and Mommy's idiocy.
Thankfully, that's the only thought that curbs the hunger - my daughters pains keep me straight :)
wish me luck in court on Jan 19. custody hearing, 4 months and counting.
 brian40

Joined: 12/6/2004
Msg: 103
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/4/2005 1:11:45 PM

.that's one of the things that makes the netherlands so interesting! i'd love to see the 'reefer madness' totally disassociated with something like occasional pot usage


ah yes, the reefer madness of people in their seventies going crazy for Rizlas and Zippo's!

One of the sweet things that I have seen in a coffeeshop was an elderly couple holding hands and sharing a joint. Both happy, both Dutch, and neither exhibiting signs of trying to take over the world, go on a rampage, or do anything other than have time for each other.

For what it is worth, the average age of junkies in the Netherlands is going up. It is the only country in the developed world where this is true, as far as I know. Think about it. Hard drug users are declining in numbers, basically, now that the link between hard drugs and soft is broken. However, the moral(?) right are trying to reverse this, and drive the whole thing back to the criminal gangs. sigh. Let the good times of East LA roll.

And as for 'madness', the only madness (by that I mean violent behaviour) is carried out by two main groups - drunken English and drunken American tourists. Not Irish, not Canadian nor South African - and a very few that I never did figure out. And a Smurf, but that was a weird day.
 whitebirch

Joined: 7/21/2004
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Posted: 1/4/2005 4:36:42 PM
i have no clue how that poem fit in where it was placed - maybe the person wasn't reading the latest posts. cuz crystal meth & the possibility that it can cause havoc in some lives has little if anything to do with lighting up an occasional joint.

i had a good old friend die of a heroin overdose, i came to find out years later (after we'd lost touch). i used to know people in madison who got really f*cked up in the heavy drug scene, & who i heard were still as messed up years later. but then i also know a lot of people who've smoked pot over the years (yes, they've also indulged in other drugs earlier on but that's usually something you tend to grown out of) - anyway, these people are just fine. they have jobs, relationships, a future. it's just wrong to lump it all together & it's usually coming from someone who's totally OUTSIDE & really knows little. they're spewing facts from books...propaganda from "the man," etc.

so it wasn't the irish, huh? i guess i wouldn't have thought that, but i wouldn't necessarily blame bad drunken behavior on one or two nationalities. cuz over there you have your nice drunks & your jerky drunks - & there's even some that cross over at times (& i'm not talking about mode of dress).

smurf??
 whitebirch

Joined: 7/21/2004
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over there = over here
Posted: 1/4/2005 4:37:34 PM
(i wouldn't know about there - never been there unfortunately!)
 Marley

Joined: 7/13/2004
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Posted: 1/4/2005 7:07:33 PM
whitebirch,
Why are you so surprised it wasn't the Irish? I recently return from working for over a year in a couple of the mid-west and southern states. I was frequently offended to find that one of the few racial sterotypes that persists is that the Irish are all dunks (and violent, dirty drunks). Is it an ant-catholic thing perpetuated by the current administration?

Asfor the drugs: There are a lot of people who have spent their entire careers fighting "the war on drugs". Do you tink they will admit their lifes work was all for naught?
 cadreemin

Joined: 12/30/2004
Msg: 107
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/5/2005 12:05:23 PM
I'd change your yes to a no or prefer not to say. I'm with you, but I answered no. The yes or prefer not to say = yes to me. And to me yes = daily hooked on something if you're that open about it on the dating site. Why get yourself passed over by someone in the same boat as you, just by saying yes. If you meet someone and you hit it off, you can then brooch the subject by saying you did tell one lie on the profile. If you're as irregular a smoker as you say and this person is that up tight and against it, if they mean enough to you you'll just give it up. And if they don't mean enough to you you won't. With any luck she'll make you feel better than any pot on earth can, then you won't even miss it. Good luck.
 Singlemaltgirl

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 1/5/2005 12:14:37 PM
randy - i applaud your honesty. regardless of if pot is legal or not, i just don't want to be around it or have my child be around it. but i don't want to be with a smoker either...so i think it's just a preference, really. some men who don't drink may have a problem with me b/c i enjoy the occasional warmth of a good single malt or a sweet brandy. it's good to get these things out of the way first. the only advice i would give is that (if you haven;t already, just clarify in your profile what your "yes" means in that category)

cheers
 whitebirch

Joined: 7/21/2004
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Posted: 1/5/2005 5:04:29 PM
marley:

i said "so it wasn't the irish, huh? i guess i ==>wouldn't<== have thought that, but i wouldn't necessarily blame bad drunken behavior on one or two nationalities."

not sure where you read that i was surprised it wasn't the irish in there. i wouldn't blame drunken badness on one specific nationality.
 samhonolulu

Joined: 12/24/2004
Msg: 110
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/6/2005 8:53:56 PM
Randyyeo,
I think you're trying to 'out' all the Liars our there!
We All want someone who is 'honest' with us, but we're not all honest in our profiles.
 dialtone

Joined: 1/7/2005
Msg: 111
The drug thing.
Posted: 1/8/2005 9:07:46 AM
Besides "yes" or "no" you can choose the answer "prefer not to say".
 whitebirch

Joined: 7/21/2004
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Posted: 1/8/2005 4:46:19 PM
"prefer not to say" is a definite yes..
sorta like "no contest" means guilty

how about "just now & again" or something instead?
 dialtone

Joined: 1/7/2005
Msg: 113
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Posted: 1/9/2005 4:52:42 AM
What if you just prefer not to say?
 O

Joined: 1/8/2005
Msg: 114
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Posted: 1/9/2005 2:00:56 PM
Randy

I too dealt with this dilemma and my understanding of it is: when a level of trust has been created then more information can be given otherwise it is a wasted time of breath to expose yourself to someone you do not know.

I do agree about the walking part. Relationships should be unconditional otherwise once again time is wasted and time is something we have no true control over.
 riptagn

Joined: 9/30/2004
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Posted: 1/9/2005 5:41:14 PM
honesty is always the best policy ,be it drugs or anything else.
 Human Ills

Joined: 4/11/2005
Msg: 116
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Posted: 4/12/2005 3:07:05 PM
There needs to be a "yes but just pot, on occasion, and not nearly as much as back in my glory days, besides it just makes me feel congested anyways" option in the profile. Plain and simple.
 lone56wolf

Joined: 1/31/2005
Msg: 117
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Posted: 4/13/2005 11:36:36 PM
I can't say no because I have to do the heart med thing ... and for tummy troubles. I avoid the painkillers because I've had problems with doctor-prescribed junk ... but a single toke does what the pills won't. If it's a problem ... ask me. I "Prefer not to say".

Steve
 mxluvr

Joined: 4/13/2005
Msg: 118
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Posted: 4/15/2005 9:59:34 PM
I believe and hear what you are all saying to be true,in our own way.For me,I smoke it.How often and when is my choice and by saying Prefer not to say is saying"yes"I do I'm not hiding it.It's my choice to share with someone whom I am speaking to about that.So it's my way of saying ya,I do but that's who I choose to let them know.Not a profiles choice.
 mxluvr

Joined: 4/13/2005
Msg: 119
The drug thing.
Posted: 4/15/2005 10:28:55 PM
did everyone burn?
 geraldk2

Joined: 4/5/2005
Msg: 120
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Posted: 4/16/2005 4:40:16 AM
ill smoke a fatty when i can ..but at these prices where im at..unreal but down in texas where i was you could get half a sandwich bag for 20 ..here you pay 5 bux a joint go figure
 aradienne

Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 4/16/2005 5:16:43 AM
This is my personal experience with weed vs. alcohol as drugs - and yes, they are both drugs, although one is readily available in drug stores in any quantity and as often as you can afford to purchase it.

My sister was killed by a drunk driver and I've seen up close what alcohol can do to a family. Her children, her husband, my mother, will never be the same again because of a socially accepted drug. He did spend time in jail, but was drunk again the day he was released. I'm not a "fanatical MADD type" but until you go through this, you'll never understand how helpless and angry you can feel at such a senseless, careless loss.

I drink occasionally, smoke pot very seldom, but I do know this: When people are smoking, they are laid back, very apt to sit around listening to music and laugh and have no desire to go out and "party". Alcohol usually causes a much more reckless, let's go out and get crazy feeling that causes fights, drunk driving, and generally more rowdy behavior.

MAYBE smoking pot leads to harder drugs; it hasn't in the case of friends I've had that smoke. But I've seen a lot of life destruction other than death from alcohol; job loss, family breakup, and major addiction.
 Webgrrl74

Joined: 1/29/2005
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Posted: 4/16/2005 9:29:59 PM
In my opinion, if someone's profile says yes.. I'm more likely than not to pass over their profile.
It's a matter of personal preference. I'd do the same with other habits too just as I'm sure people do with pictures. It's just a matter of personal preference.
 Watchman

Joined: 10/26/2004
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Posted: 4/17/2005 7:09:09 AM
Anytime I've seen someone smoking a joint, they had a beer or mixed drink in their other hand...
 rusassy21969

Joined: 3/3/2005
Msg: 124
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Posted: 4/17/2005 5:24:59 PM
Hi, sorry didn't have patience to read all of the replies so will just add my input, the drug box is the first one i check, I have 2 kids, and don't use drugs myself. My son is 13 and has tried pot and wound up in the hospital. I worry about being around someone who uses mood altering substances that are illegal. Yes I know that alcohol is mood altering and I uses it sometimes myself, but if found in my house it doesn't risk the custody of my kids. Everyone has the right to choose what they use and how often they use it and I respect the people who are honest enough to put it in their profile. Hope this helps.
 Speshul_K

Joined: 4/17/2005
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Posted: 4/17/2005 5:33:19 PM
I appreciate having the option to check off about drugs. Potheads generally only make good mates with fellow potheads so it's a good thing to know when determining compatibility.
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