| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 7:19:33 AM | well said.
you get it completly.
well no more for me to say here. On to another fourm. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 12:47:22 PM | Never smoked pot never learned how to inhale.... won't date someone who does smoke pot, or smoke cigarettes.
So if there is a prefer not to say, I assume it is a yes, and if it is a yes I will ask about it. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 1:11:23 PM | | I'm not into drugs, never have been, and nor do I ever want to be..to me its important to know the truth. If its once in awhile, its a yes, as far as I'm concerned. Thing is, I am raising 2 children on my own. I am responsible for them. Any guy I date MUST be drug free...how can I date somebody who smokes pot, if I'm trying to teach my children that drugs are bad???? | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 2:33:26 PM | Do you believe because someone has checked no to that box that they are drug free? Just a question I have to ask because in my limited experience on here thus far, I haven't encountered a lot of honesty when it comes to profiles. Way too many married/otherwise involved men tick single/separated etc. I have read profiles that say non smoker and the person is having a cigarette when you meet them. Only stands to reason that just as many will say no to drugs when they do them.
I truly do believe the only way anyone will really ever get to know someone is to get to meet them and figure these things out, just like you would meeting in a grocery store, a soccer game a pub. Same mystery is involved regardless of the profile. Sure some people are honest, I just don't think you can rely on that.
I guess it is that in combination with the definition of drugs (prescription or illegal) that sort of has me discounting what a person has ticked there. Except of course when they say yes or prefer not to say...then they are at least letting you know that they do. The no on the other hand...grey area, probably as many lie as don't! | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 2:47:45 PM | | You are totally right themaven, its very easy to be lied to on here. Thats all I can really go by though, unless I decide to meet them and find out more.. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 4:16:52 PM | | I checked no and meant no. I "grew up" in the 70s, too, and that's when I quit. Well, okay, entirely by the time I was 25. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/15/2005 8:15:14 PM | | There are many drugs in the world and are they only acceptable if they are sanctioned by the FDA or regulated and taxed by the govt. like alcohol? What exactly is the proper definition of a 'drug' anyway? In the dictionary it says a medicinal substance, a narcotic, hallucinagenic, or stimulant. Well, then, that would include alcohol and for that matter caffeinated coffee! Personally, I have seen more violence, addiction, abusive people and failed livers from alcohol then I have ever seen from Marijuana. If I choose to state 'no' on my profile when it comes 'do you use drugs?' it is merely because the implication could indeed relate to hard drugs such as cocaine, heroine, meth amphetamines which is not something I would choose to be associated with particularly in the dating/relationship world. Of course, It could also imply prozac, lithium, and zoloft which are socially acceptable because they are prescribed by a doctor. What this all boils down to for me is that every full grown and very hopefully, responsible adult on this forum can make their own choices and knows their own limits. Furthermore, no, I do not do 'hard' drugs and never will and no, I do not need prescribed anti depressants either. I do, on the other hand, drink coffee and I do fully believe that marijuana should be legalized. Thank You! | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/17/2005 12:25:47 PM | Hi Randy, I guess you ive in London. I know all about the hippy cafe. My daughter worked there actually. we all know our answers are molded by society. And that is a shame isn't it? But it is what it is. I believe drugs are a choice, our own choice. But hey my beliefs are a big no no in society. This subject is like talking about the bible. There are only oppinions, no wrong or right answers. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/17/2005 11:20:15 PM | You wanna know about drugs? Kids, I'll tell ya about drugs. Delusion is a major drug. Reaching into my pants and finding that soft stretch of skin the sized of a used pencil eraser, oh man, that's a rush. Rubbing it, caressing it, using that special soft voice normally reserved for babies and kittens and calling it "Mr. Pringles"... oh, it's pure euphoria.
And I'm fixin to go get high as a mofo. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/18/2005 9:16:36 PM | | Why lie, if you hook up with someone they are bound to find out, and it's more fun to enjoy what you enjoy with someone else. I do E every Sat night and have for the past 5 yrs. I've been doing E for the past 20+ yrs. but you know getting older, have to slow down. LOL Oh hell, it's what keeps me young. I go to the raves with the 18 to 25 yr olds. and I still out dance most of them, then take a couple home and out sex them. It never stopped me from doing anything. I raised a son who was on the honor role and got a scholorship to Duke, ran a successful bussiness, had a wonderful 10 yr marriage, I have a degree, and I'm a happy, fun, good looking woman, that knows what she likes, and isn't going to stop doing that or lie about it. Now if I was a junkie, that would be different, but if it's not interfering with my life, than what's the problem. Now alcohol...can't drive on it, make bad decisions, fall down, get sick, it's just a really bad scene, but I'd do it again the next day. Now that was a problem that was getting out of hand! I think it's the worst of all the drugs, and it's legal. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/18/2005 9:44:38 PM | | my answer would be that there are two types of users, recreational and addicts. As far as the drug question goes the question should be " Do you have a drug problem" ? I think that would be more appropriate. Maybe even answer the question with "socially". If you dont do drugs then obviously it is no. Drugs are complicated, so many different types where as alchohol is alchohol and is socially acceptable even though it causes the same problems that drugs do. And when we think of it, alchohol is a drug and is equally as destructive physically, mentally and to those close to us. If anyone is trying to rake you over the coals for checking off yes and you look at their profile and they've checked off yes or socially to alchohol, then they should perhaps look at their own housekeeping before telling you how to clean yours. I checked no to both drugs and alchohol but I believe in the live and let live theory. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 4:51:52 AM | Just my own ideas here, but I have never heard of anyone smoking a joint then beating the hell out of the wife and kids, or robbing someone to support their pot habit. So, you drink your booze and I'll smoke my one joint after work, and let's see who stays healther longer. Just my own opion. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 9:24:42 AM | Windra7878, your comment that you've never heard of anyone smoking a joint and then "beating the hell out of the wife and kids" has been made time and time again in this thread.
This comment assumes that the one reason a person would not want to date someone who does drugs is because he/she is afraid of physical violence.
There are many other issues with drug use. Impaired judgement. Safety concerns. Health concerns. Financial concerns. The smell. The glassy-eyed, drugged out stare. The inability to communicate rationally. The dulled emotions. The time it takes away from other activities. (Would you rather be high on drugs or high on life? I'd rather be with someone who would be active and we could share memories of climbing the step to an Aztec temple and walking in the shadow of the sphynx instead of being in a drug-induced haze on a mouldy sofa) The forgetfullness. ("Sorry for not picking you up after school kid. I was just doped up" doesn't wash)
I want someone clear-eyed, clear headed, energetic, and high on LIFE! | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 10:18:23 AM | This comment assumes that the one reason a person would not want to date someone who does drugs is because he/she is afraid of physical violence.
There are many other issues with drug use. Impaired judgement. Safety concerns. Health concerns. Financial concerns. The smell. The glassy-eyed, drugged out stare. The inability to communicate rationally.
umm you forgot to mention fact that it is illegal.. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 11:19:54 AM | | And drinking isn't illegal, and how many women and kids are abused by men who are drunk. Sorry, but I don't agree but again that is my own oppion. That is what the world is made of, people with differ ideas, that is not to say yours is wrong or mine is right, just one persons opion is all that it is. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 11:30:36 AM | Right on Windra! I agree with Dolly, too~  | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 11:49:47 AM | | You are totally right Windra, alcohol can be just as bad as drugs. The fact that it is illegal makes it so much worse in my case though, especially trying to raise 2 kids and teaching them to be responsible adults. I'm not going to encourage neither one...... | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 12:04:50 PM | | Oh please believe me when I say that I don't advocate smoking in front of the kids, nor do I think adults should drink in front of kids either. I do believe that pot is not nearly as bad as it is mad out to be, in fact Washington and Franklin wanted or thought hemp should be the number one crop for the united states. Pot might be mentally habit forming but not a physical addiction. I have lost some many loved ones in my own family to cigerette smoking then I care to think about, do they put the list of ingredients on the pack, no waY. Again these are just my own opion and not that of the management. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/19/2005 12:39:22 PM |
There are many other issues with drug use. Impaired judgement. Safety concerns. Health concerns. Financial concerns. The smell. The glassy-eyed, drugged out stare. The inability to communicate rationally. The dulled emotions. The time it takes away from other activities. (Would you rather be high on drugs or high on life? I'd rather be with someone who would be active and we could share memories of climbing the step to an Aztec temple and walking in the shadow of the sphynx instead of being in a drug-induced haze on a mouldy sofa) The forgetfullness. ("Sorry for not picking you up after school kid. I was just doped up" doesn't wash)
I don't believe that's an accurate description of the average pot smoker but one of an irresponsible person. There are MANY people who use drugs that do not fit your description.
Therein lies the dilemma of ticking that box.
Does someone 'assume' that because you ticked the box that you're going to be glassy-eyed and unable to communicate rationally and/or forget the kids at school?
Do they assume it's pot? or cocaine? or percacets?
Or does ticking that box simply mean they won't say no to a 'spliff' going around a campfire or card-table.
Does someone who doesn't smoke often, but "won't say no to a spliff going around a table" tick "socially" or does he/she tick "No" or "prefer not to say".
I chose to tick 'socially' because someone that thinks ticking that box means I'm going to be impaired all the time, they would probably be a little too judgemental for me and we wouldn't get along well.
Although I'm not "perpetually high" or a "stoner" it would be dishonest of me to click 'No' and although not quite dishonest it would be 'playing games' to click "prefer not to say".
I think a few more choices on the "does drugs" option would be a little better and help aid communication.
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/22/2005 9:04:02 AM | | Hey Miss Music: Have you ever done drugs???? I didn't think so. Ignorance is bliss. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/22/2005 12:07:28 PM | | I personally dont do drugs, nor do I smoke, but at the same time I have been with men whom have done both. Do I hold this against them , no not at all. It is a choice of my own not to do either, but this doesnt mean I scorn those who do. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/22/2005 8:33:54 PM | From one aging hippy to another....AMEN, brother.  | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/22/2005 8:38:42 PM | | u know, there is a dating site 4 pot smokers...it's called 420 station. just thought i'd share that with u. | |
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| The drug thing. Posted: 10/23/2005 12:24:11 AM | | I agree that more choices would be appropriate on the "drug thing". I haven't ever really been into myself but maybe that just means my fragile brain can't handle it. I can handle the occasional pot-smoker but others... I agree with other posts that there is definitely levels of drugs and addiction. Alcohol can be a bad one, but I've never really seen it be a problem unless you can't take care of your kids or make it to work. Smokin meth/crack/coke on the other hand hmmm.... I could write volumes on that one. | |
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